PH Forza 5 BTCC championship
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Found a list of cars that get the 2.0 engine swap. Not much in it for us in this though
http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/turn10_postsm147...
Available in:
Abarth 500, Punto
Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA Stradale, Spider Quadrifoglio Verde
BMW 2002 ‘73
Honda Civic ‘97 (and stock ‘04), Civic '84, Prelude
Kia cee’d
Lotus Elan
Mazda Miata ‘94
MINI Cooper ‘65
Nissan 240SX, Datsun 510
Toyota MR2 SC ‘89, Sprinter Trueno
Volkswagen Beetle ‘63, Corrado, Golf Gti Mk2 ‘92, Rabbit GTi
http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/turn10_postsm147...
Available in:
Abarth 500, Punto
Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA Stradale, Spider Quadrifoglio Verde
BMW 2002 ‘73
Honda Civic ‘97 (and stock ‘04), Civic '84, Prelude
Kia cee’d
Lotus Elan
Mazda Miata ‘94
MINI Cooper ‘65
Nissan 240SX, Datsun 510
Toyota MR2 SC ‘89, Sprinter Trueno
Volkswagen Beetle ‘63, Corrado, Golf Gti Mk2 ‘92, Rabbit GTi
You will get vastly different top speeds if it goes to B class. A lot of the cars you can max handling to high C/low B then just keep throwing power in. At least if its in C you can balance between power builds and handling.
Another issue with running B class is what would stop someone getting the 1.6ltr rally engine and boring it out to 2.0ltr? A car like that would dominate EVERYWHERE as you just short shift at 5k and its a rocket.
Another issue with running B class is what would stop someone getting the 1.6ltr rally engine and boring it out to 2.0ltr? A car like that would dominate EVERYWHERE as you just short shift at 5k and its a rocket.
totlxtc said:
You will get vastly different top speeds if it goes to B class. A lot of the cars you can max handling to high C/low B then just keep throwing power in. At least if its in C you can balance between power builds and handling.
Another issue with running B class is what would stop someone getting the 1.6ltr rally engine and boring it out to 2.0ltr? A car like that would dominate EVERYWHERE as you just short shift at 5k and its a rocket.
If you guys don't mind, I'll have a go at replying to this one.Another issue with running B class is what would stop someone getting the 1.6ltr rally engine and boring it out to 2.0ltr? A car like that would dominate EVERYWHERE as you just short shift at 5k and its a rocket.
You might have a point about top speeds but I think it will end up OK. The rules on the 1st page which state 160mph Max top speed. When building the car, you need the race tyres,g'box, rollcage, and brakes, along with use of a turbo and rules for min weight and max allowed BHP . Throwing all that in the build does limit PI points leftover and hence any other engine mods. With the BTCC builds, it seems the only choice you have in the build, is whether to sacrifice HP for less weight or gain HP for added weight.
If you go C-class you will be ruling out some of the cars, as they can't be built to the rules and still stay under the C-class limit.
In regards to the 1.6L rally engine, I'm sure it would not be allowed as it would go past the 350BHP power limit. I also suspect you would go past the B600 class limit too.
Sorry if this sounds like a rant, it's not meant to be, I just wanted to reply to your the points you raised from your viewpoint on this.
Spent more time testing cars today with a couple of mates. The regs are keeping the cars close enough for me to base my choice of car on which one sounds the best!
Basically, B600 stays along with the other regs. This is the first attempt at a series so we'll learn for the next one (fingers crossed there is one).
One thing that came out from testing today was the possibility of someone running away with the series so I want to know what you guys would think to applying a horsepower reduction based on results from the previous race or current championship placing. I took part in a Mini championship in FM4 that did this and it worked really well. I say that having been on the receiving end of the penalties on a few occasions
Basically, B600 stays along with the other regs. This is the first attempt at a series so we'll learn for the next one (fingers crossed there is one).
One thing that came out from testing today was the possibility of someone running away with the series so I want to know what you guys would think to applying a horsepower reduction based on results from the previous race or current championship placing. I took part in a Mini championship in FM4 that did this and it worked really well. I say that having been on the receiving end of the penalties on a few occasions
TheVole said:
Out of interest, why the FWD only rule? The BTCC has a number of RWD cars.
If it's to do with how much easier it is to put power down in RWD, how about two classes; 350bhp maximum power for FWD, and say 300 or 325 for RWD?
I think that might mix it all up a bit.
To be honest I don't want things mixed up too much. The idea with the rules is to keep the cars as close as possible and it really works, tune some of the cars and you'll see what I mean.If it's to do with how much easier it is to put power down in RWD, how about two classes; 350bhp maximum power for FWD, and say 300 or 325 for RWD?
I think that might mix it all up a bit.
In FM4 I ran a drag tyre endurance race with everyone using the same car and tune (Seat Leon SC) and it was brilliant. Racing throughout the field from the first lap to the last!
Trust me, this formula will work
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