Gaming PCs Thread...time for a sticky / running thread?

Gaming PCs Thread...time for a sticky / running thread?

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westtra

1,534 posts

202 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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272BHP said:
MissChief said:
In all honesty going pre-built is probably the best option at the moment due to graphics availability. Something like this: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-gaming-bayonet... would be great and play everything thrown at it for several years.
That does seem to have everything he is looking for. A big concern is noise, his current gaming laptop makes a hell of a racket and spoils things when he is streaming to Twitch.

Would something like this be much quieter?
Looking at the spec should he quiet.

Unless you know what you are doing and can be there to help if things go wrong Pre built is the way to go as for a while you have warranty and support.

My PC is all built by me and not really used by others in the family.

My sons is pre built and even though its had more issues all have been fixed/help by support when I am away from home(quite regular). Give a bit of peace of mind he has use of it and can get help and saves me having to talk him/the wife through what to do.

RizzoTheRat

25,191 posts

193 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Gaming laptops tend to be noisy as there's not much space for airflow. I'd expect that linked Overclockers PC to be a lot quieter with a mesh front for decent airflow through the case. I notice it doesn't mentioned the CPU cooler on the spec, so assume it's a basic one but if you find that's noisy, CPU coolers with a large heatsink and 120mm fan start at around £30 (Coolermaster) and will be a lot quieter than a stock cooler with a smaller fan running at a higher speed..

wst

3,494 posts

162 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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272BHP said:
That does seem to have everything he is looking for. A big concern is noise, his current gaming laptop makes a hell of a racket and spoils things when he is streaming to Twitch.

Would something like this be much quieter?
General rule of thumb is that a desktop will be quieter, and of course it can be positioned in a place where the noise will cause less impact. If he was streaming using the laptop internal mic, all the fan noise will be heard through the chassis and into the mic.

As a final help for background noise when streaming - if he runs nVidia broadcast he can use a tiny amount of GPU power to automatically remove noise from his microphone feed - it listens to the normal microphone, cleans up the audio, then outputs it as a "virtual" microphone that can be selected as an input device by OBS or any other software that listens to a mic.

272BHP

5,101 posts

237 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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wst said:
eneral rule of thumb is that a desktop will be quieter, and of course it can be positioned in a place where the noise will cause less impact. If he was streaming using the laptop internal mic, all the fan noise will be heard through the chassis and into the mic.

As a final help for background noise when streaming - if he runs nVidia broadcast he can use a tiny amount of GPU power to automatically remove noise from his microphone feed - it listens to the normal microphone, cleans up the audio, then outputs it as a "virtual" microphone that can be selected as an input device by OBS or any other software that listens to a mic.
He has an external HyperX Quadcast microphone. I will tell him about the nVidia broadcast - thanks.

272BHP

5,101 posts

237 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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RizzoTheRat said:
Gaming laptops tend to be noisy as there's not much space for airflow. I'd expect that linked Overclockers PC to be a lot quieter with a mesh front for decent airflow through the case. I notice it doesn't mentioned the CPU cooler on the spec, so assume it's a basic one but if you find that's noisy, CPU coolers with a large heatsink and 120mm fan start at around £30 (Coolermaster) and will be a lot quieter than a stock cooler with a smaller fan running at a higher speed..
Isn't this the cooler in the spec?

240mm AIO Liquid Cooler

Or are there separate coolers for CPU and GPU?

Sorry, new to all this


RizzoTheRat

25,191 posts

193 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Oops, missed that. That'll be a liquid radiator with a pair of 120mm fans, so should be pretty quiet

westtra

1,534 posts

202 months

Tuesday 29th June 2021
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Top mount AIO. What’s the general concensis on fan set up.

Push exhaust or Pull exhaust?
Push intake or pull intake?

HM-2

12,467 posts

170 months

Tuesday 29th June 2021
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westtra said:
Top mount AIO. What’s the general concensis on fan set up.

Push exhaust or Pull exhaust?
Push intake or pull intake?
Top mount exhausting push. I've got a radiator top and bottom in my system, intaking from the bottom pull and pushing through the top.

Jinx

11,394 posts

261 months

Tuesday 29th June 2021
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HM-2 said:
Top mount exhausting push. I've got a radiator top and bottom in my system, intaking from the bottom pull and pushing through the top.
Agreed - try not to fight convection and avoid turbulence. So in through bottom and front, out through back and top and fans away from each other as much as possible.

westtra

1,534 posts

202 months

Tuesday 29th June 2021
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Thats what I thought but the whole cooling with AIO is new. Will have 3 140mm in front. 1 140mm exhaust 3 120 mm on AIO and there is space for 1 120mm on the bottom for drawing in as well.

techguyone

3,137 posts

143 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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My existing PC is almost at the end of it's life, I can't complain, I specced well - back in 2014 and it's still going strong.

I used PC Specialist then, and I've configured a few builds since for friends and my daughter so have no issues with their service.

How does this spec look for a £2k build?

(because trad hard drive bays are a bit lacking in modern cases, I'll be using a USB C Hard drive enclosure for any 3.5 drives I'll be using.

And the H100i instead of 115 because in the case I've chosen, it would get in the way of my RAM

I'll be going for 4x LL120 120 corsair RGB fans post build, so factor that in too.

anyway, usage will be 1440 gaming, video editing, encoding, plex server-ing and general purpose photoshop, office stuff.

No peripherals needed, as I've already got those, this is really just the PC itself.

--

Case
CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
GIGABYTE X570S AORUS PRO AX (rev. 1.0) : ATX (USB 3.2 Gen 1, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX, WI-FI) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 7000MB/R, 5000MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i RGB PRO XT Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 14 to 17 working days
Price: £2,230.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configuration...

Edited by techguyone on Friday 15th October 12:51


Edited by techguyone on Friday 15th October 17:58

HM-2

12,467 posts

170 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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I've got the same motherboard, albeit with a 5900X in it. Great mid-high end board.

On a 5000 series I would be looking at 3600MHz RAM, ideally with a CAS latency of 16 or below.

Sheets Tabuer

18,984 posts

216 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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Same spec:
https://store.overclockers.co.uk/cart/restore/e0e2...

Just have to wait for GFX card drops on the nvidia site, there are ways of getting them, anyhow add £369 for a gfx card

gfx clicky

Comes in at £1968

techguyone

3,137 posts

143 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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HM-2 said:
I've got the same motherboard, albeit with a 5900X in it. Great mid-high end board.

On a 5000 series I would be looking at 3600MHz RAM, ideally with a CAS latency of 16 or below.
I might have tried a 59 but there still seems to be a shortage of silicon on these sites, graphics cards are now better than they were, but there's still gaps in the line up.
I needed something with a lot of USB ports too, and that worked for that.
I couldn't get the RGB ram at that speed on the configurator sadly, I don't think the 400 mhz difference in the real world will really matter too much though.


Edited by techguyone on Friday 15th October 17:57

FourWheelDrift

88,554 posts

285 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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They do 3600Mhz RGB in 2x8GB can you ring them up and request 4x 8GB? See no reason why they couldn't.

techguyone

3,137 posts

143 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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FourWheelDrift said:
They do 3600Mhz RGB in 2x8GB can you ring them up and request 4x 8GB? See no reason why they couldn't.
Yea fair enough, I see it now, I wanted to populate all 4 slots, I suppose I could get 2 of the RGB 'dummy ones so all slots are full and RGB'y smile

FourWheelDrift

88,554 posts

285 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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That's what I've done. It really does make a difference to have all 4 filled.

But then I've just gone mad and bought a K100 keyboard and M65 Ultra mouse too. smile

HM-2

12,467 posts

170 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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FourWheelDrift said:
They do 3600Mhz RGB in 2x8GB can you ring them up and request 4x 8GB? See no reason why they couldn't.
Or just get it with 16gb and then buy two more 16gb sticks at retail. Which might actually work out cheaper too.

Sheets Tabuer said:
Not quite the same spec, motherboard is the older non-S X570 which means you get a chipset fan rather than passive cooling and somewhat weaker power stage and VRMs.

CPU prices seem to have gone a bit weird, I only paid £430 for a 5900X about two months ago.

Edited by HM-2 on Friday 15th October 19:07

MissChief

7,114 posts

169 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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HM-2 said:
FourWheelDrift said:
They do 3600Mhz RGB in 2x8GB can you ring them up and request 4x 8GB? See no reason why they couldn't.
Or just get it with 16gb and then buy two more 16gb sticks at retail. Which might actually work out cheaper too.

Sheets Tabuer said:
Not quite the same spec, motherboard is the older non-S X570 which means you get a chipset fan rather than passive cooling and somewhat weaker power stage and VRMs.

CPU prices seem to have gone a bit weird, I only paid £430 for a 5900X about two months ago.

Edited by HM-2 on Friday 15th October 19:07
I have an MSI X570 Tomahawk. AFAIK my chipset fan has never come on.

FourWheelDrift

88,554 posts

285 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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Or it's not working. So either your chipset's overheating, or they were never needed in the first place, hence the S models smile