The Last of Us. Part 2

[Yazza54]

DanL said:

Yazza54 said:

DanL said:

Having played it a little more, there are gameplay irritations that don’t make sense. The forced artificial scarcity, for example... Why can I only carry 16 bullets for the pistol, or 12 for the revolver? The pistol even gets the magazines swapped over when reloading, and given they hold 10 rounds each I should be able to carry at least 20 bullets... Same for rifle ammo, etc.

Annoying, and makes no sense except to force always being low on supplies.

Can't say it bothers me, adds to the suspense and desperation

It absolutely does, but it also makes no sense. I can carry 3 bottles, 3 rolls of tape, 3 medical kits, etc. but only 16 tiny, tiny bullets? I’m playing on very easy - perhaps at higher levels you don’t get enough stuff to hit the limits, but it breaks some of the immersion for me.

Same for the melee weapons breaking - fair enough for a bit of wood, but you can’t tell me you can only hit people 5 times with a metal pipe or machete before they break?

Have you actually had 16 bullets?? I didn't think there were that many in the entire game haha

[Gee68]

Also don’t forget that they only shoot 22 pellets and it takes 3-4 rounds to drop anything.

[Yazza54]

My revolver is a one shot now on humans I've upgraded it's damage, shotgun blows people to bits. The clickers and all those big heavily infected bds need to be killed with fire!!!

[DanL]

Yazza54 said:

My revolver is a one shot now on humans I've upgraded it's damage, shotgun blows people to bits. The clickers and all those big heavily infected bds need to be killed with fire!!!

Clickers are sneak/stab, but those big buggers do need burning or blowing up!

ETA: have got today off, hoping to make some proper progress in the game.

[Camelot1971]

A Winner Is You said:

The Spruce Goose said:

A Winner Is You said:

Or, there are people who loved the first game and are annoyed about the misleading trailers, what they did with established characters, games journalism, Naughty Dog's business practices and Sony's hypocrisy when it it comes to censorship

There were 5000 negative reviews within half a day of release.

Are they really all about the poor game play, i doubt it. I thought people left game reviews on how the game actually plays, seem different nowadays then.

Bad reviews for ''Naughty Dog's business practices and Sony's hypocrisy'' FFS, just don't buy the game.

There were also thousands of 10/10 scores left within hours of launch. It's a story driven game with over 5 hours of cutscenes, if people feel the story is poor then it will detract for the overall experience and they are entitled to criticise the game for it.

Exactly. The 10/10 amazeballs people are just as bad as the 1/10 pile of st people.

[Seanseansean]

I have just finished the game. It took me around 30 hours, I played it on medium.
Bad reviews in the first day are just fake, as it wouldn’t be possible to finish the game.
Someone commented they canceled there preorder? Because they read the leaks, that’s just crazy can’t you play it and make your own mind up?

It’s a stunning game, the maps and weapons have been updated and expanded well.
The story is Great. Luckily I avoid the leaks.
As if you play the game and let the story unravel, everything that happens makes sense.
What Abby did was totally justified.

10/10 game.
You really just need to play it, not listen to leaks and people morning about Abby being trans.
She isn’t...

[PrinceRupert]

scrubchub said:

Sounds like a pain in the arse! But then it's been a while since I was the kind of gamer who did the hardest difficulty level, for better or worse.

I ended up downgrading the difficulty level. Not really because the difficulty was too hard (though it was very tricky), but the absolute lack of resources just made everything a chore. You would end up in a room with four infected and two shamblers, and you couldn't sprint through as the door on the other side needed barging, and you had no bullets and no health, and it was almost impossible to do. Or you just ended up sprinting through everything which wasn't much fun. It was a bit ridiculous finding a box of ammo and only getting a single bullet. I downgraded after taking about two hours to get through one encounter as I started with zero health and zero bullets and there were dogs that were very difficult to kill without alerting everyone to your presence.

[robsa]

Finished it yesterday, TLOU 1 was one of my all time favourite games.... and I really loved this one too! Amazing graphics and story, and not being a huge gamer (I’m a bit st as a player is what I mean) I really liked the way if you died you were back in the action quickly. I thought the story was brilliant, and found myself thinking about it when not playing it.

Yes it was shocking in parts but overall I think it put it’s point across as a story very well indeed.

[jtremlett]

There's a well reasoned discussion on the game and the reviews here www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFHzQ0M86nQ Necessarily full of spoilers though.

[rolex]

jtremlett said:

There's a well reasoned discussion on the game and the reviews here www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFHzQ0M86nQ Necessarily full of spoilers though.

For some people I think the gameplay is more important than the story.

[kuro]

Taking me a while to get into this, It's hard not to compare it to the first game but it's still the last of us so that's a good thing. Reached Seattle last night and the visuals are stunning. I rarely play games these days so set on one of the lighter difficulty levels. Even then I'm finding some of the combat a little tricky.

[Yazza54]

It's just getting good mate stick at it

I'm in santa barbera now... Enjoying the story

[kuro]

Yazza54 said:

It's just getting good mate stick at it

I'm in santa barbera now... Enjoying the story

My daughter pointed out to me last night that you can fine tune the difficulty. This has really opened it up for me and now it feels much more like the original. About 8 hours in now and really enjoying it.

[LukeBrown66]

Found the first game to be one of the most over-rated pieces of software I had ever played! So not that keen on this one.

[Durzel]

I have no interest in playing Abby, especially for several hours, and no amount of backstory for her is going to change that.

That’s not to say that I think Joel is a good guy, or that beloved characters should be immortal, but expecting me to “grow to understand” a character I’m forced to play when I actively hate them for a significant proportion of that experience is poor, shock-driven storytelling.

At best what she did should’ve been the denouement of the story, when you might actually have conflicted feelings about the outcome.

[DanL]

Avoiding major spoilers... I’m now playing Abby. I’m a lot less enthusiastic about it, purely because the game has been excellent at setting things up for us to hate her.

Seeing her back story explains why she did what she did, and I’ll be interested to see what happens when the story comes out of flashback and gets back to the games present, where they meet again.

I still fully intend to kill her if I’m given the option, mind you!

[Yazza54]

I ended up really liking Abby ...

[Gee68]

Yazza54 said:

I ended up really liking Abby ...

I was just about to add it’s about seeing both sides of the story,I’ve really enjoyed it so far,thought it made a refreshing change.

[Gee68]

Durzel said:

I have no interest in playing Abby, especially for several hours, and no amount of backstory for her is going to change that.

That’s not to say that I think Joel is a good guy, or that beloved characters should be immortal, but expecting me to “grow to understand” a character I’m forced to play when I actively hate them for a significant proportion of that experience is poor, shock-driven storytelling.

At best what she did should’ve been the denouement of the story, when you might actually have conflicted feelings about the outcome.

I can’t understand why you wouldn’t want to play the game and see how the story unfolds so you can give a valid opinion when you’ve finished it,as I keep saying it’s a game,I don’t get all the angst.

[Yazza54]

Gee68 said:

Yazza54 said:

I ended up really liking Abby ...

I was just about to add it’s about seeing both sides of the story,I’ve really enjoyed it so far,thought it made a refreshing change.

Yep I've just completed it and that's absolutely it, justice goes both ways, not just in Ellie and Joel's favour...! Can't understand all the moaning, the story made total sense.