Nintendo Switch
Discussion
KingNothing said:
It doesn't have a disc drive so backwards compatibility with Wii and Wii U games is a no go I think, unless you mean downloads of older games, which I don't class as backwards compatible.
Nintendo and smart don't go together, they've done some incredibly dumb moves as of late.
They will be downloaded like they did for NES and SNES. Nintendo and smart don't go together, they've done some incredibly dumb moves as of late.
Ved said:
KingNothing said:
It doesn't have a disc drive so backwards compatibility with Wii and Wii U games is a no go I think, unless you mean downloads of older games, which I don't class as backwards compatible.
Nintendo and smart don't go together, they've done some incredibly dumb moves as of late.
They will be downloaded like they did for NES and SNES. Nintendo and smart don't go together, they've done some incredibly dumb moves as of late.
rampageturke said:
Ved said:
KingNothing said:
It doesn't have a disc drive so backwards compatibility with Wii and Wii U games is a no go I think, unless you mean downloads of older games, which I don't class as backwards compatible.
Nintendo and smart don't go together, they've done some incredibly dumb moves as of late.
They will be downloaded like they did for NES and SNES. Nintendo and smart don't go together, they've done some incredibly dumb moves as of late.
Ved said:
rampageturke said:
Ved said:
KingNothing said:
It doesn't have a disc drive so backwards compatibility with Wii and Wii U games is a no go I think, unless you mean downloads of older games, which I don't class as backwards compatible.
Nintendo and smart don't go together, they've done some incredibly dumb moves as of late.
They will be downloaded like they did for NES and SNES. Nintendo and smart don't go together, they've done some incredibly dumb moves as of late.
Wills2 said:
Ved said:
rampageturke said:
Ved said:
KingNothing said:
It doesn't have a disc drive so backwards compatibility with Wii and Wii U games is a no go I think, unless you mean downloads of older games, which I don't class as backwards compatible.
Nintendo and smart don't go together, they've done some incredibly dumb moves as of late.
They will be downloaded like they did for NES and SNES. Nintendo and smart don't go together, they've done some incredibly dumb moves as of late.
ReallyReallyGood said:
welshjon81 said:
Not sure about the Wii but the Wii U does this. You download past games from the Nintendo Shop.
Really!? Perhaps I'll pick one of those up then!Funny how Nintendo never marketed this is as I thought it was a big selling point also. Personally I think the Wii U is a great piece of kit and I'm stumped as to why it bombed so badly!
welshjon81 said:
Yep, really. You can get most of the classics from the nes, snes, N64 and Wii.
Funny how Nintendo never marketed this is as I thought it was a big selling point also. Personally I think the Wii U is a great piece of kit and I'm stumped as to why it bombed so badly!
Having just looked on the Game website I can fathom a guess why... £300!?! For Bomberman!?Funny how Nintendo never marketed this is as I thought it was a big selling point also. Personally I think the Wii U is a great piece of kit and I'm stumped as to why it bombed so badly!
ReallyReallyGood said:
welshjon81 said:
Yep, really. You can get most of the classics from the nes, snes, N64 and Wii.
Funny how Nintendo never marketed this is as I thought it was a big selling point also. Personally I think the Wii U is a great piece of kit and I'm stumped as to why it bombed so badly!
Having just looked on the Game website I can fathom a guess why... £300!?! For Bomberman!?Funny how Nintendo never marketed this is as I thought it was a big selling point also. Personally I think the Wii U is a great piece of kit and I'm stumped as to why it bombed so badly!
http://www.tesco.com/direct/technology-gaming/nint...
To be honest for just over £200 and with Mario Kart 8 this isn't too bad of a price.
I know the console is at its end of its life but not bad considering what you get.
You could also look on Ebay as I'm sure they will be giving them away on there!
Well worth it if you have kids IMO.
Im not buying any nintendo machine anymore that isnt dirt cheap
My Wii ended up being a mario kart box (although i did get a good bit of wii-golf out of it with mates), no "serious" games (as in, non waggle gimmicky) ended up appealing to me, bought a wii-u for MK8 (which was brilliant), sold it a year later after realizing i dont care about anything else on the system.
I recently bought a 2DS+MK7 bundle, and at €99, im fine with spending that on a mario kart player, but that is about the limit, im not a big platformer fan, nor do i have huge nostalgia for Zelda, and Nintendo seems hell bent on letting metroid rot and driving away all 3rd parties, meaning there is very little worth picking up
As for the switch, im seriously underwhelmed by the specs, going by info from eurogamer and nvidia, the GPU on this thing is again (slightly above) 360/ps3/wii-u class in docked mode, its gonna suck for 1080p gaming, as nintendo already pretty much admits by making the new Zelda 900p 30 fps.
Unless for some inexplicable reason the idea of a €330 portable with €60 resonates with the unwashed masses, this has wii-u written all over it
My Wii ended up being a mario kart box (although i did get a good bit of wii-golf out of it with mates), no "serious" games (as in, non waggle gimmicky) ended up appealing to me, bought a wii-u for MK8 (which was brilliant), sold it a year later after realizing i dont care about anything else on the system.
I recently bought a 2DS+MK7 bundle, and at €99, im fine with spending that on a mario kart player, but that is about the limit, im not a big platformer fan, nor do i have huge nostalgia for Zelda, and Nintendo seems hell bent on letting metroid rot and driving away all 3rd parties, meaning there is very little worth picking up
As for the switch, im seriously underwhelmed by the specs, going by info from eurogamer and nvidia, the GPU on this thing is again (slightly above) 360/ps3/wii-u class in docked mode, its gonna suck for 1080p gaming, as nintendo already pretty much admits by making the new Zelda 900p 30 fps.
Unless for some inexplicable reason the idea of a €330 portable with €60 resonates with the unwashed masses, this has wii-u written all over it
Agreed. to my mind all they had to do was produce a super cheap console with no gimmicks. the power of the switch is about right to my mind but it needed to be much, much cheaper.
Zelda looks great and you don't need enormous power to produce the kind of games that Nintendo excel at. If it was marketed at the right price many people would have bought it as a second machine and parents would have snapped it up for their kids.
Zelda looks great and you don't need enormous power to produce the kind of games that Nintendo excel at. If it was marketed at the right price many people would have bought it as a second machine and parents would have snapped it up for their kids.
What's the Switch comparable to in terms of power?
Who can remember when Nintendo were like the Gods of power? The SNES was the Playstation of the day (plenty of power, mainstream games) and the N64 sold on the promise of full 3D environments (and the '64 bit' claims)
By taking themselves out the regular console cycle you'd have assumed the Wii U and the Switch would be more powerful than the PS and Xbox, but it doesn't seem to be the case? This seems batst to me, especially after the Wii was such a run away success?! Surely they had the cash to throw half way decent Nvidia in there?
Who can remember when Nintendo were like the Gods of power? The SNES was the Playstation of the day (plenty of power, mainstream games) and the N64 sold on the promise of full 3D environments (and the '64 bit' claims)
By taking themselves out the regular console cycle you'd have assumed the Wii U and the Switch would be more powerful than the PS and Xbox, but it doesn't seem to be the case? This seems batst to me, especially after the Wii was such a run away success?! Surely they had the cash to throw half way decent Nvidia in there?
Boring_Chris said:
Surely they had the cash to throw half way decent Nvidia in there?
They did: It's a custom Nvidia chip based upon the Tegra, which is used in the Shield. Trouble is that if they'd put a proper Nvidia GPU in there it would swallow battery life in an hour, which makes the whole portable concept useless. They've tried to straddle the fence and left themselves with nothing but sore b*llocks, if you see what I mean.For GPU Power.
It looks to be a downclocked version of the Shield TV (Tegra X1). 256 CUDA cores.
Needing to run as a portable device cripples GPU choice. Form factor limits heat dissipation and battery life limits power.
I might keep an eye on when digital foundry get one to look at. Not sure what native resolutions will be for docked vs portable.
It looks to be a downclocked version of the Shield TV (Tegra X1). 256 CUDA cores.
Needing to run as a portable device cripples GPU choice. Form factor limits heat dissipation and battery life limits power.
I might keep an eye on when digital foundry get one to look at. Not sure what native resolutions will be for docked vs portable.
Edited by conkerman on Thursday 19th January 14:50
Boring_Chris said:
RumbleOfThunder said:
Read today on Engadget that it'll run at 900p in the dock, 720p portable and locked at 30fps for both.
When the rest of the world have their eyes on 4k and VR?FFS.
Boring_Chris said:
When the rest of the world have their eyes on 4k and VR?
FFS.
I know this is straying off topic but IMHO 4k and VR are gimmicks, just like 3D TV was. FFS.
I don't believe VR will have any longer lifespan than the 3D TV fad of 2013-2015 - and that was just the latest way for TV manufactures to try and persuade us to upgrade to a new TV set we didn't really need. We all sat with those ridiculous glasses on for a movie (maybe even two) and then they got relegated to a cupboard and we all went back to just watching 2D TV on our 3D set.
And maybe I am missing the point of 4k ... but given the viewing distance of your average living room, on your averaged sized set I'd be amazed if 4k is giving the average viewer anything at all over 1080p. Again, it feels like the latest technological-gimmick no one needs in order to sell us all a new TV.
But then I feel the same way about the Xbox One S and PS4 Pro, neither of which seem like worthwhile 'upgrades' from my existing One and PS4.
Maybe I'm just getting old? But I'm a gaming geek, a total nerd, have a nice amount of disposable income and very little common sense when it comes to gadgets ... and yet VR, 4k, S's and Pro's all seem totally pointless. But (god only knows why) I am extremely excited and hopelessly optimistic about the Switch. My Amazon order on the 3rd of March cannot come soon enough
Boring_Chris said:
When the rest of the world have their eyes on 4k and VR?
FFS.
To be fair we all said something similar about the original Wii - the specs were well down on the other consoles out at the time but it still did exceptionally well relying on being a more social and light hearted console than the others.FFS.
NewNameNeeded said:
Boring_Chris said:
When the rest of the world have their eyes on 4k and VR?
FFS.
I know this is straying off topic but IMHO 4k and VR are gimmicks, just like 3D TV was. FFS.
I don't believe VR will have any longer lifespan than the 3D TV fad of 2013-2015 - and that was just the latest way for TV manufactures to try and persuade us to upgrade to a new TV set we didn't really need. We all sat with those ridiculous glasses on for a movie (maybe even two) and then they got relegated to a cupboard and we all went back to just watching 2D TV on our 3D set.
And maybe I am missing the point of 4k ... but given the viewing distance of your average living room, on your averaged sized set I'd be amazed if 4k is giving the average viewer anything at all over 1080p. Again, it feels like the latest technological-gimmick no one needs in order to sell us all a new TV.
But then I feel the same way about the Xbox One S and PS4 Pro, neither of which seem like worthwhile 'upgrades' from my existing One and PS4.
Maybe I'm just getting old? But I'm a gaming geek, a total nerd, have a nice amount of disposable income and very little common sense when it comes to gadgets ... and yet VR, 4k, S's and Pro's all seem totally pointless. But (god only knows why) I am extremely excited and hopelessly optimistic about the Switch. My Amazon order on the 3rd of March cannot come soon enough
Doesn't need to have 4k or VR or even 9 million FPS, it just needs to have good games. I played through Half Life 2 on a Sheild K1 and never once thought it needed better graphics or more FPS, it played perfectly fine and was great to replay in portable form. The only downside was the K1 got seriously hot playing HL2 or Portal and the battery lasted a few hours. The Switch has the potential to be great providing the games are there and the price is right. At the moment, on launch day the price is high and the games aren't there. Hopefully the price will plummet and the games will start coming.
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