Too lazy to play games?
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Efbe said:
TameRacingDriver said:
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Give gaming a break.I played quite a lot until I was around 26yo. Similar to you, I lost my mojo with games, so I took the decision to stop playing altogether for a while, give games a chance to move on, and myself to get into other things.
since then I have picked up a whole host of interests and skills. I literally replaced my gaming time with learning stuff. Completely random stuff too. I now speak norwegian, can paraglide, run a marathon, kayak, rockclimb, have won competitions for swordfighting, archery, fell running, have built mobile apps, websites, arduino randomness, got into motorbiking, search and rescue, rebuilt a classic car and probably lots more I can't think of right now.
10 years later, I have finally restarted a bit of gaming. My daughter got me into Fortnite, so I play that amongst some other stuff. Mojo is back, even if my reaction times are pretty bad now. Games have also come on a huge amount, so it's been quite exciting(?) to get into what is out there now.
Oh, on the subject of being too lazy, I can't be bothered with all those storyline games where you have to explore and solve puzzles. I just want a quick dip in and out style game like Battlefield or Assetto Corsa these days. I can't be arsed to learn a bespoke control system in a brand new world eg Bioshock or Tomb Raider.
Hoofy said:
Oh, on the subject of being too lazy, I can't be bothered with all those storyline games where you have to explore and solve puzzles. I just want a quick dip in and out style game like Battlefield or Assetto Corsa these days. I can't be arsed to learn a bespoke control system in a brand new world eg Bioshock or Tomb Raider.
They all tend to use twin analogue sticks, one for movement one for view.They also take you on the journey of how to operate the weapons and so on as they introduce you to them one by one.
IE - it isn't as far apart from the FPS games you already like.
Plus the more you put in the more you get out.
Give some of the great ones a go! :-)
RW
Steven_RW said:
Hoofy said:
Oh, on the subject of being too lazy, I can't be bothered with all those storyline games where you have to explore and solve puzzles. I just want a quick dip in and out style game like Battlefield or Assetto Corsa these days. I can't be arsed to learn a bespoke control system in a brand new world eg Bioshock or Tomb Raider.
They all tend to use twin analogue sticks, one for movement one for view.They also take you on the journey of how to operate the weapons and so on as they introduce you to them one by one.
IE - it isn't as far apart from the FPS games you already like.
Plus the more you put in the more you get out.
Give some of the great ones a go! :-)
RW
Decided to upgrade the PC a little; have agreed with a mate that I'll have his i7-6700k, Asus z170 Deluxe motherboard and Palit GTX 1070 8Gb GPU off him for £400. I have an empty case sat here already, a Corsair H100 water cooler and spare 500Gb SSD ready to go. Just need to pick up some memory and a PSU - reckon £200-ish for those so not a bad spec machine for the money.
Playstation Plus has rekindled my interest with Titanfall 2. I played battlefield 1 for a couple of nights but I'm not used to FPS on a controller and I didn't know what the hell was going on half the time.
Titanfall 2 on easy has proven a good introduction to FPS on consoles and I'm playing it for an hour at least every night.
It really is a case of finding something that you can get into that doesn't knock the stuffing out of you every 10 seconds. Wildly spinning the thumbsticks around while unseen enemies tear you to ribbons is no fun at all. Titanfall 2, with training wheels on, has been really good fun. There's something very addictive about driving around in a massive Mech stomping enemy soldiers. Or pulling off multiple wall walking moves.
I also bought Dirt Rally VR for a play. It's very immersive on the PSVR, but I suspect once the novelty wears off I'll be back to CBA.....
Titanfall 2 on easy has proven a good introduction to FPS on consoles and I'm playing it for an hour at least every night.
It really is a case of finding something that you can get into that doesn't knock the stuffing out of you every 10 seconds. Wildly spinning the thumbsticks around while unseen enemies tear you to ribbons is no fun at all. Titanfall 2, with training wheels on, has been really good fun. There's something very addictive about driving around in a massive Mech stomping enemy soldiers. Or pulling off multiple wall walking moves.
I also bought Dirt Rally VR for a play. It's very immersive on the PSVR, but I suspect once the novelty wears off I'll be back to CBA.....
schmunk said:
Funk said:
Indeed, I thought it reasonable. My current PC is old but still running OK (i7 860, 12Gb, GTX 760) but it's time for something better. Might turn it into a NAS/file server.
95W TDP? That's a little juicy to be running along as a NAS 24/7...Picked up this in Currys last night - they price-matched Amazon which surprised me!
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2B3000C1...
Now all I need is a PSU, some decent thermal paste and quiet fans.
Edited by Funk on Saturday 23 June 01:03
Could I ask for some advice? I've built my 'new' PC (very pleased with it for about £700 all in) but am not sure whether I've made the right choice on the water cooling fan direction. Case looks like this:
All the fans are Noiseblocker NB-ELOOPs 1500rpm. There are two 120mm intake fans on the front, one 120mm intake on the bottom, a 'mid-ship' 120mm pusher fan which directs airflow onto the GPU and a 140mm exhaust at the back. I've also replaced the Corsair fans on the H100i with the same, they're set as intake as well and it's these I'm not so sure about.
My original theory was that they'd draw in cooler air from outside the case to cool the CPU, however I can see they're likely to suck in a lot of dust as they're the only fans without a filter. I had thought about reversing the airflow so they push air out but they'd be drawing warmer air from inside the case.
They, along with the internal fan mounted on its drive cage bracket, are the only ones running constantly, the others are all set to kick in as needed (even the GPU fans are off until required). My theory on setting the internal one with a lower startup threshold was that it's less likely to be heard and will provide some air flow continuously within the case. There aren't any at the moment but there will be a couple of 3.5" HDDs going in.
Oh, I've also flipped the PSU over since that pic so the fan is underneath so this now draws cooler air from underneath (filtered) rather than from inside the case. It also has an 'eco' mode where the fan is off until the power draw ramps up the heat.
The case is nearly silent in general use which is ideal! Temps are lovely and low:
Fan speeds far right - the central internal fan is mapped to the water pump header, hence the description:
Should I reverse the water cooler fan direction or just find some way of placing a mesh filter over the top of the case to reduce dust ingress?
All the fans are Noiseblocker NB-ELOOPs 1500rpm. There are two 120mm intake fans on the front, one 120mm intake on the bottom, a 'mid-ship' 120mm pusher fan which directs airflow onto the GPU and a 140mm exhaust at the back. I've also replaced the Corsair fans on the H100i with the same, they're set as intake as well and it's these I'm not so sure about.
My original theory was that they'd draw in cooler air from outside the case to cool the CPU, however I can see they're likely to suck in a lot of dust as they're the only fans without a filter. I had thought about reversing the airflow so they push air out but they'd be drawing warmer air from inside the case.
They, along with the internal fan mounted on its drive cage bracket, are the only ones running constantly, the others are all set to kick in as needed (even the GPU fans are off until required). My theory on setting the internal one with a lower startup threshold was that it's less likely to be heard and will provide some air flow continuously within the case. There aren't any at the moment but there will be a couple of 3.5" HDDs going in.
Oh, I've also flipped the PSU over since that pic so the fan is underneath so this now draws cooler air from underneath (filtered) rather than from inside the case. It also has an 'eco' mode where the fan is off until the power draw ramps up the heat.
The case is nearly silent in general use which is ideal! Temps are lovely and low:
Fan speeds far right - the central internal fan is mapped to the water pump header, hence the description:
Should I reverse the water cooler fan direction or just find some way of placing a mesh filter over the top of the case to reduce dust ingress?
Edited by Funk on Tuesday 31st July 01:54
Push out from the water cooler - actual temperature of air is not as important as the total volume of air being pushed and by sucking through the top you are going against the natural air flow (better to work with it). Focus on getting air in through the bottom front and out through the back and top.
Some diagrams and tips here
Some diagrams and tips here
So I removed most of my games at the weekend, leaving just doom, project cars and dirt rally.
I had a lot of crap on there that I just wasn't bothering with so I wanted to start again.
I've just got my hands on far cry 5 and actually so far it's surpassing my expectations and is really quite enjoyable despite me being bored with FC3 AND FC4. It just feels a bit more action packed to me and has a better flow to it.
Maybe there's hope for me yet.
I'm still looking forward to Forza horizon 4 but I tried 3 and it just kept crashing and when it didn't crash it doesn't handle well with my steering wheel.
I had a lot of crap on there that I just wasn't bothering with so I wanted to start again.
I've just got my hands on far cry 5 and actually so far it's surpassing my expectations and is really quite enjoyable despite me being bored with FC3 AND FC4. It just feels a bit more action packed to me and has a better flow to it.
Maybe there's hope for me yet.
I'm still looking forward to Forza horizon 4 but I tried 3 and it just kept crashing and when it didn't crash it doesn't handle well with my steering wheel.
Jinx said:
Push out from the water cooler - actual temperature of air is not as important as the total volume of air being pushed and by sucking through the top you are going against the natural air flow (better to work with it). Focus on getting air in through the bottom front and out through the back and top.
Some diagrams and tips here
Interestingly there is a diagram there which shows the same airflow as I have (ie. in front and top, out rear but not for a water cooler though).Some diagrams and tips here
I've thought more about it this morning and it's a bit of a pain to remove everything to flip the fans and it's not like temps are an issue at the mo - might just slap a filter over the top and see how it goes if it's not a major issue?
Edited by Funk on Tuesday 31st July 14:53
Some interesting comments from folks in their late 30s or 40s who can't seem to be bothered anymore.
I hadn't touched a video game since nearly completing FFXII about 10 years ago. I deliberately came late to the PS2 as I was too busy with cars then, and thought I'd grab one once they got to their lowest selling price about when the PS3 was launched. The Platinum games were priced on the low too so it was fairly easy to catch up and enjoy proactive entertainment at moderate costs with what I had missed while the PS2 was at its peak and while I was all about working on my cars when not recovering from a hangover after partying hard.
I intended to repeat the move with the PS3 and I would regularly follow the gaming news but it seemed most games had got fairly dense with cryptic stories and complex gameplay, at least except from FPS games which were all over the place but which I could never be arsed about. To me it felt like the diversity could be summed up by just changing a few skins from a game to another while the gameplay remained essentially the same, as if editors had shelved creativity and fundamental gameplay quality to focus on outright rendering. Add to this that the PS3, much unlike the PS2, never really got priced much lower than its original selling price and I deliberately ended up missing the boat... Perhaps it was just me who was not quite ready to play again, with too many other time-consuming activities that would not have allowed delving into something like a full-blown RPG.
Fast forward a few years later and after spending much time reorganising/optimising my free time I recently purchased a PS4 Pro seeing there seemed to be really good games that were worth not missing this time. I have only had it a few weeks but I am completely sucked in and have managed so far to secure between 1 and 3 hours with it every evening. I thought I had been overall tired from knackering days at work in the last years but getting back into playing has sort of turned me back on. I sleep less though still feel far less tired from the usual passive screening like undergoing rubbish on TV while reading the tablet/phone which has been drastically reduced, all for the better. In my case it seems that playing video games is a carrott that keeps my donkey of a proactive mind turned on, and seemed to be the cheap-ish leasure activity missing which has rejuvinated my interest in all my other, casual to more serious things I otherwise do. The missus even says she is pleasantly surprised with how it has boosted my stamina apparently
To the folks concerned with how complex the games may have got, the ones I have played so far feature decent tutorials and the difficulty levels are progressive enough to allow the player to learn the gameplay in an involving and entertaining rather than frustrating manner. There is quite a bit of online reviews these days too to allow making one's mind up on which game may or may not be fun depending on one's tastes, although I concede it's not exactly easy to commit to purchase a pricey new console after say a 10 year break, for a past activity that intuitively may appear initially like some kind of personal regression. In my case I really do not regret my move, as it's not like I become an excited teenager again when I load up a game, as as an adult I can react and learn my way through the density of the recent games with far less feverishness and a more thought-through approach.
To the past players who have fond memories with past games but who have (even strong) doubts about playing again these days, give yourself a chance, at least if you are able to free up some spare time that won't tread on your more important activities.
I hadn't touched a video game since nearly completing FFXII about 10 years ago. I deliberately came late to the PS2 as I was too busy with cars then, and thought I'd grab one once they got to their lowest selling price about when the PS3 was launched. The Platinum games were priced on the low too so it was fairly easy to catch up and enjoy proactive entertainment at moderate costs with what I had missed while the PS2 was at its peak and while I was all about working on my cars when not recovering from a hangover after partying hard.
I intended to repeat the move with the PS3 and I would regularly follow the gaming news but it seemed most games had got fairly dense with cryptic stories and complex gameplay, at least except from FPS games which were all over the place but which I could never be arsed about. To me it felt like the diversity could be summed up by just changing a few skins from a game to another while the gameplay remained essentially the same, as if editors had shelved creativity and fundamental gameplay quality to focus on outright rendering. Add to this that the PS3, much unlike the PS2, never really got priced much lower than its original selling price and I deliberately ended up missing the boat... Perhaps it was just me who was not quite ready to play again, with too many other time-consuming activities that would not have allowed delving into something like a full-blown RPG.
Fast forward a few years later and after spending much time reorganising/optimising my free time I recently purchased a PS4 Pro seeing there seemed to be really good games that were worth not missing this time. I have only had it a few weeks but I am completely sucked in and have managed so far to secure between 1 and 3 hours with it every evening. I thought I had been overall tired from knackering days at work in the last years but getting back into playing has sort of turned me back on. I sleep less though still feel far less tired from the usual passive screening like undergoing rubbish on TV while reading the tablet/phone which has been drastically reduced, all for the better. In my case it seems that playing video games is a carrott that keeps my donkey of a proactive mind turned on, and seemed to be the cheap-ish leasure activity missing which has rejuvinated my interest in all my other, casual to more serious things I otherwise do. The missus even says she is pleasantly surprised with how it has boosted my stamina apparently
To the folks concerned with how complex the games may have got, the ones I have played so far feature decent tutorials and the difficulty levels are progressive enough to allow the player to learn the gameplay in an involving and entertaining rather than frustrating manner. There is quite a bit of online reviews these days too to allow making one's mind up on which game may or may not be fun depending on one's tastes, although I concede it's not exactly easy to commit to purchase a pricey new console after say a 10 year break, for a past activity that intuitively may appear initially like some kind of personal regression. In my case I really do not regret my move, as it's not like I become an excited teenager again when I load up a game, as as an adult I can react and learn my way through the density of the recent games with far less feverishness and a more thought-through approach.
To the past players who have fond memories with past games but who have (even strong) doubts about playing again these days, give yourself a chance, at least if you are able to free up some spare time that won't tread on your more important activities.
Edited by point on Tuesday 31st July 14:58
Funk said:
Interestingly there is a diagram there which shows the same airflow as I have (ie. in front and top, out rear but not for a water cooler though).
I've thought more about it this morning and it's a bit of a pain to remove everything to flip the fans and it's not like temps are an issue at the mo - might just slap a filter over the top and see how it goes if it's not a major issue?
Nothing wrong with using positive pressure as long as you recognise the non-optimal cooling arrangement (less dust in the case is a good enough reason to go with it). As long as you are happy with your thermals then there is no reason to change. I've thought more about it this morning and it's a bit of a pain to remove everything to flip the fans and it's not like temps are an issue at the mo - might just slap a filter over the top and see how it goes if it's not a major issue?
Edited by Funk on Tuesday 31st July 14:53
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