Forza Motorsport 7
Discussion
Matt100HP said:
LiamB said:
I miss the boat like VW Fox from 4 
Yup, the Aygo, Fox, C1, Ka etc were great fun. There's nothing quite like maintaining momentum around tiny little tracks (talking of tracks, I'm missing Iberian) when you've only got 60 odd BHP to play with. I'm not sure how all of those A-segment city cars have been axed, but the game has gained Baja style off road racing buggies...with no off road tracks to race them on!
Honestly, I think Turn 10 have run out of ideas on how to improve the game play, so they're just changing stuff for the sake of it to avoid people saying the series has got stale.
Im another who misses the little cars,and an "F" class
Dug out my Xbox 360 and sparked up Forza 3. Less tracks and cars than the latest game but it's so much more fun.
I agree that it's weird with the off-road vehicles being put in a game with no off-road circuits - not entirely sure what the thought process was behind that decision. I like the little perks you get with some vehicles like the K'egg Agera with the roof box and the Aventador with the safety car lights, but apart from that it's a pretty mediocre game, definitely not £80 worth.
I agree that it's weird with the off-road vehicles being put in a game with no off-road circuits - not entirely sure what the thought process was behind that decision. I like the little perks you get with some vehicles like the K'egg Agera with the roof box and the Aventador with the safety car lights, but apart from that it's a pretty mediocre game, definitely not £80 worth.
Petrolhead95 said:
Dug out my Xbox 360 and sparked up Forza 3. Less tracks and cars than the latest game but it's so much more fun.
I agree that it's weird with the off-road vehicles being put in a game with no off-road circuits - not entirely sure what the thought process was behind that decision. I like the little perks you get with some vehicles like the K'egg Agera with the roof box and the Aventador with the safety car lights, but apart from that it's a pretty mediocre game, definitely not £80 worth.
Was it Forza 3 which had the New York track, or was that Forza 2? Whichever it was, it was a great track and I've been hoping it would reappear at some point. I agree that it's weird with the off-road vehicles being put in a game with no off-road circuits - not entirely sure what the thought process was behind that decision. I like the little perks you get with some vehicles like the K'egg Agera with the roof box and the Aventador with the safety car lights, but apart from that it's a pretty mediocre game, definitely not £80 worth.
Sadly, like the Gran Turismo series peaked with GT4, I think Forza peaked with 4, too. It had enough cars and tracks to keep me happy, the graphics were good enough to still stand up okay today, the physics felt nice and the game had none of the restrictive nonsense which blights Forza 7.
I wonder if, like Call of Duty has gone back to WW2, Forza will one day go back to a simple, non-restrictive semi-sim (with the assists off and a manual gearbox) racing game with lots of cars and tracks and pretty graphics...I can hope!
Matt100HP said:
I skipped 5 and 6 due to not having an Xbox One (I'm playing 7 on PC), but I reckon 4 is still the best game in the series.
The single player campaign side of 7 is somewhat let down by the homologation system, which means you can no longer stick a massive engine in an Aygo and race it against a Ferrari 458, for example. Campaign races can only be done with cars from preset categories and those cars can't be modified outside of Forza's pre-set homologation rules for that category, whilst still remaining eligible for campaign races.
It all seems like utterly unneeded restriction. All Forza 7 needed to be was Forza 4 with an updated car list, more tracks and modernised graphics. It would have been a much better game for it, in my opinion.
Looks like I may be skipping 7 for a while as well then. I've still got Forza Horizon 3 to play, so that will probably tide me over until Christmas.I'll probably cave in and get 7 at some point next year or in a sale. Thanks for the response. The single player campaign side of 7 is somewhat let down by the homologation system, which means you can no longer stick a massive engine in an Aygo and race it against a Ferrari 458, for example. Campaign races can only be done with cars from preset categories and those cars can't be modified outside of Forza's pre-set homologation rules for that category, whilst still remaining eligible for campaign races.
It all seems like utterly unneeded restriction. All Forza 7 needed to be was Forza 4 with an updated car list, more tracks and modernised graphics. It would have been a much better game for it, in my opinion.
Matt100HP said:
Was it Forza 3 which had the New York track, or was that Forza 2? Whichever it was, it was a great track and I've been hoping it would reappear at some point.
There's a NY track in FM3. Pretty average track though, straights and chicanes and a couple of bends.FM3 the only one I've got, I still play it though and muck around with cars, great fun!
Just picked this up today, had a couple of hours on it so far.
I'm a huge fan of the Forza series, having started with 1, and own every iteration since, including the horizon games.
General observations and impressions from the first few hours;
It's pretty. I think that it looks better than previous iterations.
The handling is a little odd so far. I play on a pad, and this feels quite different to fm6 to me.
Menus are bloody infuriating, I know it needs to be different to the last one, but why make it so difficult to navigate.
So far I am quite liking the limitations of only being able to purchase certain cars until later levels, some of the previous games have been far to easy to access the top end stuff straight away, ruins the first few hours where you can only afford a micra with an exhaust and a induction kit. It's not quite like it sould be, but I guess that the accessibility bit of it.
Much more geeky observation;
They appear to have finally sorted the turbo lag/ boost threshold physics. Before you could put a sodding great turbo on a little car, running 35psi and it would spool from 1000 rpm. I have only tried with one car so far, but it's much, much better now, bolting a big turbo onto a S15 Silvia turned it into a laggy, spikey handful. Which it should...
The new internal camera is brilliant, they have a dash cam showing the instruments without the wheel etc of the normal helmet cam. It's great IMO
Shall see if the AI issues and menu's spoil it yet, but I have enjoyed the first couple of hours.
I'm a huge fan of the Forza series, having started with 1, and own every iteration since, including the horizon games.
General observations and impressions from the first few hours;
It's pretty. I think that it looks better than previous iterations.
The handling is a little odd so far. I play on a pad, and this feels quite different to fm6 to me.
Menus are bloody infuriating, I know it needs to be different to the last one, but why make it so difficult to navigate.
So far I am quite liking the limitations of only being able to purchase certain cars until later levels, some of the previous games have been far to easy to access the top end stuff straight away, ruins the first few hours where you can only afford a micra with an exhaust and a induction kit. It's not quite like it sould be, but I guess that the accessibility bit of it.
Much more geeky observation;
They appear to have finally sorted the turbo lag/ boost threshold physics. Before you could put a sodding great turbo on a little car, running 35psi and it would spool from 1000 rpm. I have only tried with one car so far, but it's much, much better now, bolting a big turbo onto a S15 Silvia turned it into a laggy, spikey handful. Which it should...
The new internal camera is brilliant, they have a dash cam showing the instruments without the wheel etc of the normal helmet cam. It's great IMO
Shall see if the AI issues and menu's spoil it yet, but I have enjoyed the first couple of hours.
Edited by walsh on Tuesday 7th November 20:51
RumbleOfThunder said:
I've not noticed the Speciality Dealer mentioned on here so make sure you snap up whatever is for sale in there. Cars that pop up in the SD aren't available to purchase elsewhere apart from maybe the auction house at inflated prices, when it eventually goes live.
http://forza.wikia.com/wiki/Specialty_Dealer
Latest trio in today are the McLaren 570s, Chevy El Camino SS and Pagani Zonda Cinque Roadster. Might have the leave the Zonda as I don't have 1.4m cr to fritter away.
Bump! http://forza.wikia.com/wiki/Specialty_Dealer
Latest trio in today are the McLaren 570s, Chevy El Camino SS and Pagani Zonda Cinque Roadster. Might have the leave the Zonda as I don't have 1.4m cr to fritter away.
997 GT3 RS 4.0, Aventador and Nissan Silvia now in the dealer. Get them while you can...
Quite annoyed with FM7 the campaign is quite boring as are the endurance races, I am finding myself playing freeplay most of the time racing against cars in the same class with/without mods.
It's just really not what it used to be and find myself getting frustrated with glitches rashes and boredom so I don't end up playing for long....
It's just really not what it used to be and find myself getting frustrated with glitches rashes and boredom so I don't end up playing for long....
walsh said:
They appear to have finally sorted the turbo lag/ boost threshold physics. Before you could put a sodding great turbo on a little car, running 35psi and it would spool from 1000 rpm. I have only tried with one car so far, but it's much, much better now, bolting a big turbo onto a S15 Silvia turned it into a laggy, spikey handful. Which it should...
The new internal camera is brilliant, they have a dash cam showing the instruments without the wheel etc of the normal helmet cam. It's great IMO
Yep, liking the new interior camera angle, it has now replaced my previous preference of bonnet cam as you can actually see where you’re going.The new internal camera is brilliant, they have a dash cam showing the instruments without the wheel etc of the normal helmet cam. It's great IMO
I downloaded the Porsche 935 and did note the more realistic turbos. Extremely laggy then boost comes on like saturn 5. Very lairy car, do like!
I don’t like the new class homologation rules, agree that the off-road cars are pointless (surely they could have imported a few tracks directly from horizon?) and in general i don’t find myself playing it beyond 30-45 mins at a time.
Has anyone else had an issue where after collecting credits from races that the coin noises carry on until you reset the game?
I'm trying to complete the career mode but I'm struggling so far. Unlike the other games in the series that I could play for hours, this just isn't the same. I've found that for me to be able to endure the career mode I have to have Netflix playing on my laptop next to me so I don't get too bored.
I'm trying to complete the career mode but I'm struggling so far. Unlike the other games in the series that I could play for hours, this just isn't the same. I've found that for me to be able to endure the career mode I have to have Netflix playing on my laptop next to me so I don't get too bored.
Petrolhead95 said:
Has anyone else had an issue where after collecting credits from races that the coin noises carry on until you reset the game?
I'm trying to complete the career mode but I'm struggling so far. Unlike the other games in the series that I could play for hours, this just isn't the same. I've found that for me to be able to endure the career mode I have to have Netflix playing on my laptop next to me so I don't get too bored.
Yes, and it's happened twice so far.I'm trying to complete the career mode but I'm struggling so far. Unlike the other games in the series that I could play for hours, this just isn't the same. I've found that for me to be able to endure the career mode I have to have Netflix playing on my laptop next to me so I don't get too bored.
Petrolhead95 said:
Has anyone else had an issue where after collecting credits from races that the coin noises carry on until you reset the game?
I'm trying to complete the career mode but I'm struggling so far. Unlike the other games in the series that I could play for hours, this just isn't the same. I've found that for me to be able to endure the career mode I have to have Netflix playing on my laptop next to me so I don't get too bored.
I posted this fault up on another forum last week. The noise does get annoying after a few races. What I have discovered is that once you complete the championship you are competing in it stops. It also stop (I realized last night) if you let the championship points counter post race to do its thing ie. don't press A to skip if before its gone up. Its not actually the credit sound, its the championship points sound.I'm trying to complete the career mode but I'm struggling so far. Unlike the other games in the series that I could play for hours, this just isn't the same. I've found that for me to be able to endure the career mode I have to have Netflix playing on my laptop next to me so I don't get too bored.
Matt100HP said:
Was it Forza 3 which had the New York track, or was that Forza 2? Whichever it was, it was a great track and I've been hoping it would reappear at some point.
Sadly, like the Gran Turismo series peaked with GT4, I think Forza peaked with 4, too. It had enough cars and tracks to keep me happy, the graphics were good enough to still stand up okay today, the physics felt nice and the game had none of the restrictive nonsense which blights Forza 7.
I wonder if, like Call of Duty has gone back to WW2, Forza will one day go back to a simple, non-restrictive semi-sim (with the assists off and a manual gearbox) racing game with lots of cars and tracks and pretty graphics...I can hope!
Funnily enough I had the most fun on any Forza during FM4. Sadly, like the Gran Turismo series peaked with GT4, I think Forza peaked with 4, too. It had enough cars and tracks to keep me happy, the graphics were good enough to still stand up okay today, the physics felt nice and the game had none of the restrictive nonsense which blights Forza 7.
I wonder if, like Call of Duty has gone back to WW2, Forza will one day go back to a simple, non-restrictive semi-sim (with the assists off and a manual gearbox) racing game with lots of cars and tracks and pretty graphics...I can hope!
Best craic online, met a good group of lads who would meet up every Sunday night for races in cars we had had a week to prep etc.
I'm actually going to go back to FM6 this weekend as the lobbies have killed the game.
There are literally hundreds of cars that cannot be used online now! Madness.
I miss F class but even if we still had E and D class lobbies I'd be happy.
I'm stuck in modern hot hatch hour after hour.
I don't do the super car races as I like the slower old cars and the rest of the lobbies are for wobbly old American muscle cars.
I can't believe they've made the online side so poor.
I used to love my old VW split screen bus on road America and Monza. All that daftness has gone.
Anyway rant over but next Forza Motorsport I'll wait until after release to see what the lobby system is like before buying the game.
ajprice said:
Petrolhead95 said:
Has anyone else had an issue where after collecting credits from races that the coin noises carry on until you reset the game?
I'm trying to complete the career mode but I'm struggling so far. Unlike the other games in the series that I could play for hours, this just isn't the same. I've found that for me to be able to endure the career mode I have to have Netflix playing on my laptop next to me so I don't get too bored.
Yes, and it's happened twice so far.I'm trying to complete the career mode but I'm struggling so far. Unlike the other games in the series that I could play for hours, this just isn't the same. I've found that for me to be able to endure the career mode I have to have Netflix playing on my laptop next to me so I don't get too bored.
I tell you what, it makes it much harder.
I also get random colour change to my car. My bright green Clio went a flat grey the other night. I liked it so much I sprayed it that colour after the race.
I've never really changed liveries or racesuits as I play to race so don't do the arty stuff but when the Porsche suit popped up last week I had to have it.
It's a bit Michael Jackson though. The gold is too sparkly.
Edited by marky911 on Thursday 16th November 23:00
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