Best Driving Simulator?
Discussion
itsallyellow said:
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For me it has to be iracing, it’s so immersive and realistic. The actual racing is by far the best as your racing real people at real tracks (they are inch perfect) in real cars. Using a h pattern shifter with a clutch in an mx5 around brands Indy with 24 others is brilliant!
Mike
That is a great setup! I've recently assigned my entire spare room to sim racing. In terms of hardware, I've started low budget with a playseat challenge, a T300RS (already owned), TH8A shifter and T3PA pedals, which I've modded with a squash ball. I play exclusively in VR on a Vive.For me it has to be iracing, it’s so immersive and realistic. The actual racing is by far the best as your racing real people at real tracks (they are inch perfect) in real cars. Using a h pattern shifter with a clutch in an mx5 around brands Indy with 24 others is brilliant!
Mike
Already looking at some Fanatec load cell pedals in the new year and, eventually will save for a Sim-Lab GT1 Evo rig and possibly a direct drive wheel (if my man maths can justify such an expense on a gaming peripheral.)
Currently playing PCars 2 more than anything else. Trying to get into Assetto Corsa but, cannot find a set of FFB settings that I'm happy with as yet. I haven't done much racing online but, still enjoy the AI races and time trial leagues.
Speckle said:
Already looking at some Fanatec load cell pedals in the new year and,
I modified my V2's replaced the spring in the brake with a rubber bung drilled out and sliced in 2, gives a much better brakefeel although not as good as a H2's that uses a similar solution but a much firmer rubber/plastic.I'd get a set of H2's before i'd get a DD wheel imo.
ribiero said:
I modified my V2's replaced the spring in the brake with a rubber bung drilled out and sliced in 2, gives a much better brakefeel although not as good as a H2's that uses a similar solution but a much firmer rubber/plastic.
I'd get a set of H2's before i'd get a DD wheel imo.
If money were no object, I would love a set of H2's but, I think that any decent pedal set with a load cell will be a worthwhile upgrade (budget will be £250 max so, probably the CSL set). A DD wheel is really to increase the immersion and realism than to make me any faster. it is a bit of a pipe dream and probably a very long way off yet as I need a sturdier rig first and it is not turning out to be a cheap hobby! I'd get a set of H2's before i'd get a DD wheel imo.
Right, where is that lotto ticket I haven't checked yet....
I do enjoy iRacing, the online racing is obviously its biggest asset. Unfortunately where it falls massively short is the tyre model. Hence why its nicknamed 'IceRacing'.
If you adapt your driving style then it's useable and many people have come to adopt the tyre model into their driving style to great affect.
However for me, it's just so unreleastic on the limit of grip, there's very little adjustability and most cars lose grip in such a unbelievable way that it becomes frustrating. Drive AC or RR back to back with iRacing and you'll understand.
You can catch slides all day long in other sims, balance the car easily with the throttle and generally get that real world feeling (if you drive race cars in real life).
The new tyre model is due soon for iRacing and fingers crossed it finally addresses these issues.
If you adapt your driving style then it's useable and many people have come to adopt the tyre model into their driving style to great affect.
However for me, it's just so unreleastic on the limit of grip, there's very little adjustability and most cars lose grip in such a unbelievable way that it becomes frustrating. Drive AC or RR back to back with iRacing and you'll understand.
You can catch slides all day long in other sims, balance the car easily with the throttle and generally get that real world feeling (if you drive race cars in real life).
The new tyre model is due soon for iRacing and fingers crossed it finally addresses these issues.
TrackNutz said:
I do enjoy iRacing, the online racing is obviously its biggest asset. Unfortunately where it falls massively short is the tyre model. Hence why its nicknamed 'IceRacing'.
If you adapt your driving style then it's useable and many people have come to adopt the tyre model into their driving style to great affect.
However for me, it's just so unreleastic on the limit of grip, there's very little adjustability and most cars lose grip in such a unbelievable way that it becomes frustrating. Drive AC or RR back to back with iRacing and you'll understand.
You can catch slides all day long in other sims, balance the car easily with the throttle and generally get that real world feeling (if you drive race cars in real life).
The new tyre model is due soon for iRacing and fingers crossed it finally addresses these issues.
theres a "new tyre model" every other week in iracing If you adapt your driving style then it's useable and many people have come to adopt the tyre model into their driving style to great affect.
However for me, it's just so unreleastic on the limit of grip, there's very little adjustability and most cars lose grip in such a unbelievable way that it becomes frustrating. Drive AC or RR back to back with iRacing and you'll understand.
You can catch slides all day long in other sims, balance the car easily with the throttle and generally get that real world feeling (if you drive race cars in real life).
The new tyre model is due soon for iRacing and fingers crossed it finally addresses these issues.
certainly doesnt superheat like it used to when you slid, but the Macca F1's still pretty terrible as seen at Watkins Glenn this year for the Pro's.The way I had it explained to me by people who slide far better than I in real life and sims is that IR is the harder side of realism and AC is the easier side of realism.
Keeping an eye on AC's gt3 online sim, see if it gets good.
I’m not sure I agree with the “iceracing” thing. Don’t want to start a debate on it but just my experience.
I do race in real life and find the dynamics very close. Yes there used to be an odd rear grip issue over bumps but I feel that is much better now. Front end grip I would say feels almost perfect to real life and rear is close.
The big issue for me with Project cars and AC is that it is to easy and forgiving to drive, you can take liberties on the throttle and brakes.
Maybe my race cars need more grip!
Mike
I do race in real life and find the dynamics very close. Yes there used to be an odd rear grip issue over bumps but I feel that is much better now. Front end grip I would say feels almost perfect to real life and rear is close.
The big issue for me with Project cars and AC is that it is to easy and forgiving to drive, you can take liberties on the throttle and brakes.
Maybe my race cars need more grip!
Mike
Don't get me wrong, I'm not an iRacing hater, far from it, but when you start to compare sims there are certain characteristics that are worth noting. I think the iRacing rallycross is simply amazing, I haven't tried it in PC2 but it's certainly more fun and challenging than Dirt Rally.
I was using triples for years, then built a PC with a 6850k, a 1080Ti and added an Oculus Rift and I haven't looked back. Simply stunning and changes the world of sim racing. If you have the specs to hold 90fps on max settings then I insist you try it.
Assetto Corsa and iRacing are fantastic in VR. Assetto Corsa Competizione is awful in VR and the new UE4 implementation is causing all sorts of issues.
I also recommend a direct drive wheel if you have the funds. I have an Accuforce Pro, Fanatec Clubsport v3 Pedals and their CSS Seq+H shifter and it's simply the best setup I've ever had. Immersion is another level.
I was using triples for years, then built a PC with a 6850k, a 1080Ti and added an Oculus Rift and I haven't looked back. Simply stunning and changes the world of sim racing. If you have the specs to hold 90fps on max settings then I insist you try it.
Assetto Corsa and iRacing are fantastic in VR. Assetto Corsa Competizione is awful in VR and the new UE4 implementation is causing all sorts of issues.
I also recommend a direct drive wheel if you have the funds. I have an Accuforce Pro, Fanatec Clubsport v3 Pedals and their CSS Seq+H shifter and it's simply the best setup I've ever had. Immersion is another level.
TrackNutz said:
Assetto Corsa and iRacing are fantastic in VR. Assetto Corsa Competizione is awful in VR and the new UE4 implementation is causing all sorts of issues.
I also recommend a direct drive wheel if you have the funds. I have an Accuforce Pro, Fanatec Clubsport v3 Pedals and their CSS Seq+H shifter and it's simply the best setup I've ever had. Immersion is another level.
I would add that Project cars 2 has excellent VR implementation. I would say better than Assetto Corsa actually, especially the UII also recommend a direct drive wheel if you have the funds. I have an Accuforce Pro, Fanatec Clubsport v3 Pedals and their CSS Seq+H shifter and it's simply the best setup I've ever had. Immersion is another level.
I know the general consensus is that AC has better handling and FFB but, that hasn't been my experience so far (I'm working on it though). I'll admit that PCars 2 feels rubbish if left on the default settings but, using the Jack Spade tweaker files has completely transformed the feel of the game. Every car I drive feels 'right' in PCars 2. Assetto Corsa feels 'floaty' to me, which can't be right!
Edited by Speckle on Thursday 20th December 10:12
conkerman said:
I'll give these tweaker files a go.
On Project Cars 2, has anyone done the Porsche manufacturer Hockenheim classic race? I have rage quit from it a bunch of times.
You can find them here:-On Project Cars 2, has anyone done the Porsche manufacturer Hockenheim classic race? I have rage quit from it a bunch of times.
http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?51...
Haven't tried that race yet as I've been mostly running time trials or custom races. A quick google suggests you're not the only one to struggle. One suggestion is to max out your ride height and tyre pressures to help deal with the puddles - might be worth a try.
I do own PC1 and PC2, I was even part of the alpha and beta testing program for both titles and backed it financially, but, I just don't get on with it as well as I do with AC.
Some cars feel great, some feel awful. Just too much variation for me to get involved with it fully.
Maybe I should try the setup files you speak of and see how it goes.
Some cars feel great, some feel awful. Just too much variation for me to get involved with it fully.
Maybe I should try the setup files you speak of and see how it goes.
itsallyellow said:
I’m not sure I agree with the “iceracing” thing. Don’t want to start a debate on it but just my experience.
I do race in real life and find the dynamics very close. Yes there used to be an odd rear grip issue over bumps but I feel that is much better now. Front end grip I would say feels almost perfect to real life and rear is close.
The big issue for me with Project cars and AC is that it is to easy and forgiving to drive, you can take liberties on the throttle and brakes.
Maybe my race cars need more grip!
Mike
Well unless you say what it is you race then its pointless. An F1 car and a DTM car will grip for days. A ropey old Saxo won't.... or a budget race car on old tyres etc....I do race in real life and find the dynamics very close. Yes there used to be an odd rear grip issue over bumps but I feel that is much better now. Front end grip I would say feels almost perfect to real life and rear is close.
The big issue for me with Project cars and AC is that it is to easy and forgiving to drive, you can take liberties on the throttle and brakes.
Maybe my race cars need more grip!
Mike
Million pound factory race car will grip....kinda the point of all that expensive aero development.
TrackNutz said:
I do own PC1 and PC2, I was even part of the alpha and beta testing program for both titles and backed it financially, but, I just don't get on with it as well as I do with AC.
Some cars feel great, some feel awful. Just too much variation for me to get involved with it fully.
Maybe I should try the setup files you speak of and see how it goes.
Ive found this with Pcars2 as well, Started one of the offline championships, Progressed to the Caymen series and then quit at Hockenheim short, The car felt awful, Not even connected to the track IMO (Ive always used Jack Spades files BTW) I use Pcars 2 solely for a quick Rallycross blast as compared to other stuff like Dirt Rally SMS nailed this. I use Rfactor2, AC and ACC for everything else.Some cars feel great, some feel awful. Just too much variation for me to get involved with it fully.
Maybe I should try the setup files you speak of and see how it goes.
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