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Shinysideup said:
Speed1283 said:
It's always a little disappointing when there is one car that seems to be the only one, I guess part of the challenge is identifying it and tuning it, but I always like it when there is a lot of variety.
That being said, even with the MX5 I couldn't catch Cutters or CT, very impressive times. So I have some tuning to try out I think.
I really wanted the RX7 to be the car for me, but in 4wd it hasn't got enough power and it's handling PI is too high even if I try and reduce it for power.. the Gen 1 on stats should be good, but it isn't, seems to get left behind the MX5 at higher speeds.
I thought one of the two older RX7s would have been near the top but i was as disappointed as you that they are a bit gutless.That being said, even with the MX5 I couldn't catch Cutters or CT, very impressive times. So I have some tuning to try out I think.
I really wanted the RX7 to be the car for me, but in 4wd it hasn't got enough power and it's handling PI is too high even if I try and reduce it for power.. the Gen 1 on stats should be good, but it isn't, seems to get left behind the MX5 at higher speeds.
(Could be down to my inept tune on them so might try again)
I was also disappointed with the Silvia K, 400bhp, 1.2-1.3 tonnes but just seems gutless.
vonuber said:
Drabbesttunic said:
It's crazy isn't it, lots of other cars that should really do it but they just don't so you jump in the mx5 and you're away!
I even beat von in the trueno which I'll take
but then he got the mx5 and took 4 seconds out
There's more time in the Trueno, but the mx-5 is just silly. It wasn't even a very clean lap.I even beat von in the trueno which I'll take
but then he got the mx5 and took 4 seconds out I think now, ill try the shared mx5 tune and the rest will be circuit knowledge as you can lose huge amounts just not holding it flat, that final proper right hander is nowhere near as tight as you think but the bushes can slow you down too.
Drabbesttunic said:
Thats good to know, makes me feel better
I think now, ill try the shared mx5 tune and the rest will be circuit knowledge as you can lose huge amounts just not holding it flat, that final proper right hander is nowhere near as tight as you think but the bushes can slow you down too.
With the MX5, try and get used to turning in around 3 calendar months before the apex. I think now, ill try the shared mx5 tune and the rest will be circuit knowledge as you can lose huge amounts just not holding it flat, that final proper right hander is nowhere near as tight as you think but the bushes can slow you down too.
d.Shinysideup said:
ajprice said:
Ok what did I do wrong with the MX-5, does it need a certain engine swap or the widebody? I tried it lastnight and it didn't get near my Trueno.
I've shared my tune, if you bring up the real-time telemetry it will give you a lot of info about the settings i used.Try to drive it with minimal slip/yaw angle.
Edit: I hope you like disgusting 3 spokes
Edited by Shinysideup on Thursday 4th March 10:07
Wheels look alright if you paint the centres like a classic RR wheel
BadOrangePete said:
That Mx5/tune is mint, took 4 seconds off the Eclipse's time. Left it for dead on the straights, its sketchier under hard braking though!
Wheels look alright if you paint the centres like a classic RR wheel
Nice one, good to hear. It got me from a 2:54 with the Eclipse to a 2:48 so far.Wheels look alright if you paint the centres like a classic RR wheel
I will try a few more runs with it and probably revise it and share again.
Shinysideup said:
BadOrangePete said:
That Mx5/tune is mint, took 4 seconds off the Eclipse's time. Left it for dead on the straights, its sketchier under hard braking though!
Wheels look alright if you paint the centres like a classic RR wheel
Nice one, good to hear. It got me from a 2:54 with the Eclipse to a 2:48 so far.Wheels look alright if you paint the centres like a classic RR wheel
I will try a few more runs with it and probably revise it and share again.
What's the base configuration? Always feels a shame it's not possible to see the tune details but understand why it works that way. Is it an engine conversion (sounds like supercharger)? Full weight reduction? Which tyres?
miniman said:
Doesn't like turning in though does it?
What's the base configuration? Always feels a shame it's not possible to see the tune details but understand why it works that way. Is it an engine conversion (sounds like supercharger)? Full weight reduction? Which tyres?
What's the base configuration? Always feels a shame it's not possible to see the tune details but understand why it works that way. Is it an engine conversion (sounds like supercharger)? Full weight reduction? Which tyres?
That's not its strong point, you have to forgo luxuries such as steering to go fast I've been through a couple more revisions now to stabilise it more on the brakes and help initial turn in and rotation.
If you want a base to do your own...
2L VVT, Supercharged, bit of chassis reinforcement, weight reduction, Wanlee ditchfinder remoulds, 4wd/adj diff. Aero kit.
Edit: Whichever setup you go for (ultra light n/a or forced induction etc) you will have to get used to rubbish tyres or it wont be quick enough.
Edited by Shinysideup on Friday 5th March 08:44
Shinysideup said:
That's not its strong point, you have to forgo luxuries such as steering to go fast I've been through a couple more revisions now to stabilise it more on the brakes and help initial turn in and rotation.
If you want a base to do your own...
2L VVT, Supercharged, bit of chassis reinforcement, weight reduction, Wanlee ditchfinder remoulds, 4wd/adj diff. Aero kit.
Shinysideup said:
miniman said:
Doesn't like turning in though does it?
What's the base configuration? Always feels a shame it's not possible to see the tune details but understand why it works that way. Is it an engine conversion (sounds like supercharger)? Full weight reduction? Which tyres?
What's the base configuration? Always feels a shame it's not possible to see the tune details but understand why it works that way. Is it an engine conversion (sounds like supercharger)? Full weight reduction? Which tyres?
That's not its strong point, you have to forgo luxuries such as steering to go fast I've been through a couple more revisions now to stabilise it more on the brakes and help initial turn in and rotation.
If you want a base to do your own...
2L VVT, Supercharged, bit of chassis reinforcement, weight reduction, Wanlee ditchfinder remoulds, 4wd/adj diff. Aero kit.
Edit: Whichever setup you go for (ultra light n/a or forced induction etc) you will have to get used to rubbish tyres or it wont be quick enough.
Edited by Shinysideup on Friday 5th March 08:44
miniman said:
Interesting, thanks, I've never really bothered with chassis reinforcement. Might try RWD version.
You can sometimes apply a little reinforcement to get more mechanical grip without a big weight penalty but it depends on the overall weight of your build.It's a massive balancing act. Each tweak you make just keep an eye on the lateral grip level change and how it affects the weight.
You could perhaps achieve more gain elsewhere by fitting wider tyres but at more weight or PI cost or vice versa
Drabbesttunic said:
Its certainly fast enough, the time I set is with my own mx5 that handles like a dream, I'll try again with yours but really struggled with no grip to actually get it over the line
If you get bored or stuck i've added a #2 tune which is a bit more forgiving but can go under 2:50Drabbesttunic said:
Its certainly fast enough, the time I set is with my own mx5 that handles like a dream, I'll try again with yours but really struggled with no grip to actually get it over the line
I did 3 fast runs back to back (one of them better than my current time) and scraped the wall as crossing the line each time 
vonuber said:
Season 3
Round 9 of 16
Elmsdon on Sea Sprint, Retro Sports Cars, B665, Any Mods, Any Assists, standing start only
As of 00:00:
Top ten above blue line. 16th to choose next week as shown.
Only managed one go, I am really strapped for time this week.
Yay, I'm still just about in the top 5 with the trusty RX7, haven't had chance these last few days, think this will be a weekend one for me. Going to have to pull something out of the bag to get top three, incredible times by you all. Round 9 of 16
Elmsdon on Sea Sprint, Retro Sports Cars, B665, Any Mods, Any Assists, standing start only
As of 00:00:
Top ten above blue line. 16th to choose next week as shown.
Only managed one go, I am really strapped for time this week.
Shinysideup said:
You can sometimes apply a little reinforcement to get more mechanical grip without a big weight penalty but it depends on the overall weight of your build.
It's a massive balancing act. Each tweak you make just keep an eye on the lateral grip level change and how it affects the weight.
You could perhaps achieve more gain elsewhere by fitting wider tyres but at more weight or PI cost or vice versa
I went with lots of weight and lots of power It's a massive balancing act. Each tweak you make just keep an eye on the lateral grip level change and how it affects the weight.
You could perhaps achieve more gain elsewhere by fitting wider tyres but at more weight or PI cost or vice versa
(all relative, bearing in mind it’s an MX-5)Shared my tune if anyone fancies a go. Managed a flagged 2:47.53. Clipped the barrier about a metre before the finish line.
CT25 said:
Shinysideup said:
You can sometimes apply a little reinforcement to get more mechanical grip without a big weight penalty but it depends on the overall weight of your build.
It's a massive balancing act. Each tweak you make just keep an eye on the lateral grip level change and how it affects the weight.
You could perhaps achieve more gain elsewhere by fitting wider tyres but at more weight or PI cost or vice versa
I went with lots of weight and lots of power It's a massive balancing act. Each tweak you make just keep an eye on the lateral grip level change and how it affects the weight.
You could perhaps achieve more gain elsewhere by fitting wider tyres but at more weight or PI cost or vice versa
(all relative, bearing in mind it’s an MX-5)Shared my tune if anyone fancies a go. Managed a flagged 2:47.53. Clipped the barrier about a metre before the finish line.
I’ll share my tune when I get home later on, love the different approach everyone has so I’ll try yours as well, I’ve gone for moderate (about 250ish iirc) power and as light as I could get it
ETA - tune shared
Edited by Cutters on Friday 5th March 16:40
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