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bloomen

6,900 posts

159 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Facebook insisting on linking an account means I won't be touching oculus again.

FunkyNige

8,887 posts

275 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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bloomen said:
Facebook insisting on linking an account means I won't be touching oculus again.
Not the case with my Go - just needed an email address.

Shadow R1

3,800 posts

176 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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FunkyNige said:
Not the case with my Go - just needed an email address.
The same with my Rift.

I will have a look at the quest 2, also the new hp in the mix.

Bullett

10,887 posts

184 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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From October, the Facebook-owned company will require its users to log in via the social media platform and merge any existing Oculus accounts with accounts from Facebook. From January 2023, all un-merged Oculus accounts will be shuttered.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/facebook-forcing-ocu...

Clockwork Cupcake

74,584 posts

272 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Bullett said:
From October, the Facebook-owned company will require its users to log in via the social media platform and merge any existing Oculus accounts with accounts from Facebook. From January 2023, all un-merged Oculus accounts will be shuttered.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/facebook-forcing-ocu...
"If you're an existing user and choose not to merge your accounts, you can continue using your Oculus account for two years," Oculus wrote in a blog post announcing the mandate.

Well, by then my Rift will either have been replaced by a newer (competitor) product or will be sitting on a shelf unused. Either way, I won't be linking my Oculus account to my Facebook account.

bloomen

6,900 posts

159 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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With the Quest 2 and I presume any other new Oculus product between now and then there's no grace period. You'll have to immediately link an account.

Bullett

10,887 posts

184 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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I would assume so.
That Q2 looks interesting. I didn't really get the Quest but it could be good with the link software.

Hilts

4,391 posts

282 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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I have a Rift.

I don't have a Facebook account.

What will I have to do?

I don't fancy setting up a real Facebook account, not at all.

bloomen

6,900 posts

159 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Nothing until 2023 ish. And even then it may only affect games with online functionality/social aspects. We'll have to see.

Lucas Ayde

3,560 posts

168 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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That Quest 2 looks like a massive improvement over the (already very good) original model.

Plenty of power to play decent standalone games and it should be very effective when teamed with a PC to use the power of a full blown next-gen card.


RizzoTheRat

25,167 posts

192 months

Wednesday 16th September 2020
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Well, by then my Rift will either have been replaced by a newer (competitor) product or will be sitting on a shelf unused. Either way, I won't be linking my Oculus account to my Facebook account.
Surely you have more than one e-mail address?


Hilts said:
I have a Rift.

I don't have a Facebook account.

What will I have to do?

I don't fancy setting up a real Facebook account, not at all.
Why not? You have no issue setting up an Oculus account and a Pistonheads account. Just set up an account and then don't use it.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,584 posts

272 months

Wednesday 16th September 2020
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RizzoTheRat said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Well, by then my Rift will either have been replaced by a newer (competitor) product or will be sitting on a shelf unused. Either way, I won't be linking my Oculus account to my Facebook account.
Surely you have more than one e-mail address?


Hilts said:
I have a Rift.

I don't have a Facebook account.

What will I have to do?

I don't fancy setting up a real Facebook account, not at all.
Why not? You have no issue setting up an Oculus account and a Pistonheads account. Just set up an account and then don't use it.
I don't think you fully understand how Facebook works and how insidious it is. And how clever they are at "joining up the dots".

Having said that, it's probably reasonably benign to link your Oculus account to your Facebook account, but it is something I would prefer not to do.

RizzoTheRat

25,167 posts

192 months

Wednesday 16th September 2020
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True but Oculus are owned by FB, if you already have an Oculus account FB already have your e-mail address.

bloomen

6,900 posts

159 months

Wednesday 16th September 2020
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I would only ever consider a burner account with Facebook which means at some point it'll get tripped which means giving up all the content I paid for for an action totally unrelated to anything I did on the platform.

In theory you're only supposed to ever have one Facebook account so there's no starting another one, or you have to provide a government ID and an apology to Mark saying you'll be a good little ant in future.

Or I could shop elsewhere which is what I'll do. If someone roots one then I'll think again.

Not sure people have thought through how gross this move is, or realised how much more gross it'll become over time.


Edited by bloomen on Wednesday 16th September 11:41

Clockwork Cupcake

74,584 posts

272 months

Wednesday 16th September 2020
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bloomen said:
In theory you're only supposed to ever have one Facebook account so there's no starting another one, or you have to provide a government ID and an apology to Mark saying you'll be a good little ant in future.
Indeed. In theory.

Certainly there are well-documented cases of stage performers (eg. Drag Queens) having a separate FB account for their stage persona and FB trying to force them to make it a Page or Group attached to their main FB account which they argue could compromise their personal safety by revealing their real life identity.

But then again, I know many people who are residents of Second Life who have run a separate FB account for their avatar for years without problems, although I suspect that is the case of flying under the radar.

But, yes, you are correct. In theory you should only have one FB account.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,584 posts

272 months

Wednesday 16th September 2020
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Lucas Ayde

3,560 posts

168 months

Wednesday 16th September 2020
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I wonder what sort of data FB collect from the usage of the headset and what they do with it ..... It's going to be more than just an email address and name that they are after. Maybe they see it as a way to get people who would otherwise avoid FB, onto their service and in their sights.

Mind you, they already create shadow profiles based on data they collect from exiting accounts of people who know you.


bloomen

6,900 posts

159 months

Wednesday 16th September 2020
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Lucas Ayde said:
I wonder what sort of data FB collect from the usage of the headset and what they do with it ..... It's going to be more than just an email address and name that they are after. Maybe they see it as a way to get people who would otherwise avoid FB, onto their service and in their sights.

Mind you, they already create shadow profiles based on data they collect from exiting accounts of people who know you.
They want to 'bring people together' so in future there'll be communal work spaces, play spaces, families nattering. Some will spend hours of their day inside it. That's plenty of juicy info to tap.

And things like what you look at in game and what you favour and what you don't will be noted and used for fine tuning.

It's bit like having a broadcast chip in your brain except with this you're strapping the chip on.

Guvernator

13,160 posts

165 months

Wednesday 16th September 2020
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They want to gather info on all the perverted VR porn you look at so they can blackmail you.

Lucas Ayde

3,560 posts

168 months

Wednesday 16th September 2020
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Guvernator said:
They want to gather info on all the perverted VR porn you look at so they can blackmail you.
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Just as well it doesn't use a camera to track movements like the PSVR does ... whacking off in front of a camera connected to the internet is not a smart move - just ask Leslie Grantham smile