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conkerman

3,301 posts

135 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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I have had a Rift for a little while now, here are my thoughts.

For GPUs I have a GTX970 in my HTPC and to be honest it is sort of marginal, hopefully GPU prices will come down a bit and I'll upgrade.

Using the headset for movies etc, sounds like a horrible idea due to the screen door effect. In my opinion it is a gaming only device.

If you like driving games then...

Project Cars 1 and 2, and Assetto corsa are very good, I think I prefer the handling in Assetto Corsa.
Dirt Rally in VR it is an incredible experience. I just suck at it, plus my G29 doesn't have a handbrake (for now).
For a change of pace, Euro/American Truck Simulator are much more compelling experiences than they should be.
I had a quick go of redout, I think that will take a little bit of getting used to.

Other games of note..

Last Echo - An excellent narrative strong adventure, I challenge you not to feel up Olivia. smile

Superhot - A puzzle game disguised as a shooter, it's great!

Robo Recall - Robot dismemberment simulator. Boffo, a good one.

I also have Elite and Everspace, but not had much time to play, hellblade also has a VR mode, so that might be interesting.

Downsides.

It gets hot in there, esoecially for the roomscale stuff where there is a lot of movement, Robo Recall, Superhot.
Glasses wearers use caution as specs will need to fit in the headset.
You look like a bit of a dork.

snuffy

9,765 posts

284 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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conkerman said:
Glasses wearers use caution as specs will need to fit in the headset.
I wear glasses to read and use my PC and it's driving me up the fking wall.

They fit fine under my VR hat (WMR) but make no difference at all. So I don't wear them for that reason. But as soon as I lift the visor to do something on my PC I can't see anything and have to put my glasses back on.

Speckle

3,452 posts

216 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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conkerman said:
Using the headset for movies etc, sounds like a horrible idea due to the screen door effect. In my opinion it is a gaming only device.
The SDE is there but, is very quickly forgotten in much the same was as when you're playing a game. Obviously the movie source needs to be good quality to begin with. It wouldn't be my first choice of movie watching method but, it is an intriguing novelty to sit in a massive cinema auditorium whilst you're sat in your lounge.

The far bigger problem when watching movies in VR, is how to drink beer effectively, especially the dregs towards the end of the can/bottle without tilting your head which breaks the immersion. My top tip is to just tape two straws together so that you don't need to tilt your head at all thumbup

kowalski655

14,643 posts

143 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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This has to be the beer solution...

Agree on the glasses point, a real pITA

conkerman

3,301 posts

135 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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Camelbak, then you can't knock the beer over when you turn your head when having a drink.

Speckle

3,452 posts

216 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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kowalski655 said:
This has to be the beer solution...

Agree on the glasses point, a real pITA
Might be a bit tricky to wear with a VR headset on your head!! Other than that, it's perfect hehe

A camelbak on the other hand....:scratchchin



snuffy

9,765 posts

284 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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Speckle said:
kowalski655 said:
This has to be the beer solution...

Agree on the glasses point, a real pITA
Might be a bit tricky to wear with a VR headset on your head!! Other than that, it's perfect hehe
Two hats are better than one !!

kowalski655

14,643 posts

143 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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Lean back in your seat and the pressure on the camelbak will squirt beer right down your throat!
Actually that doesn't sound so badsmile

Number_Six

157 posts

103 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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The lenses on the Rift scratch very easily - a colleague came over and tried mine while wearing his specs and left a jagged scratch down one lense where the frame caught the screen. If this happens to you pick up some of that watch polishing paste and it buffs out nicely.

J4CKO

41,562 posts

200 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Thinking of getting an Oculus Rift, just not sure if my pc is up to it, spec as below, your thoughts ?

Goods Ordered (prices in GBP)
£412.48 x 1 - DEFCON 3s - Asus Z170-K - Intel Core i5 6600K @ 4.20GHz - Overclocked Skylake Bundle
£204.99 x 1 - OcUK GeForce GTX 1060 Dual 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card

And it’s got 8 gb of ram, couple of SSD’s and it’s running Windows 10, seems to cope with most stuff but dont want to spend £379 and find I need to replaces most of all of it.

The video card seems to still be fairly current an no cheaper than when I bought it.

Edited by J4CKO on Monday 29th October 09:01

Clockwork Cupcake

74,560 posts

272 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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J4CKO said:
Thinking of getting an Oculus Rift, just not sure if my pc is up to it, spec as below, your thoughts ?

Goods Ordered (prices in GBP)
£412.48 x 1 - DEFCON 3s - Asus Z170-K - Intel Core i5 6600K @ 4.20GHz - Overclocked Skylake Bundle
£204.99 x 1 - OcUK GeForce GTX 1060 Dual 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card

And it’s got 8 gb of ram.
That sounds like a very modest system. I would imagine that the GTX 1060 will struggle.

Also, 8GB of RAM seems rather meagre by today's standards (although I know that it wasn't that long ago when it would have been respectable).

J4CKO

41,562 posts

200 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
J4CKO said:
Thinking of getting an Oculus Rift, just not sure if my pc is up to it, spec as below, your thoughts ?

Goods Ordered (prices in GBP)
£412.48 x 1 - DEFCON 3s - Asus Z170-K - Intel Core i5 6600K @ 4.20GHz - Overclocked Skylake Bundle
£204.99 x 1 - OcUK GeForce GTX 1060 Dual 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card

And it’s got 8 gb of ram.
That sounds like a very modest system. I would imagine that the GTX 1060 will struggle.

Also, 8GB of RAM seems rather meagre by today's standards (although I know that it wasn't that long ago when it would have been respectable).
It was the best bang for buck at the time and it’s been great but I am not a big gamer, it has coped so far with everything I have tried on it and fits in with the specs they recommend but don’t want to buy a Rift and find it can’t cope.

Pc hardware seems really expensive at the moment compare to what I remember, 150 quid for 16 go ram for example.

geeks

9,188 posts

139 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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J4CKO said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
J4CKO said:
Thinking of getting an Oculus Rift, just not sure if my pc is up to it, spec as below, your thoughts ?

Goods Ordered (prices in GBP)
£412.48 x 1 - DEFCON 3s - Asus Z170-K - Intel Core i5 6600K @ 4.20GHz - Overclocked Skylake Bundle
£204.99 x 1 - OcUK GeForce GTX 1060 Dual 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card

And it’s got 8 gb of ram.
That sounds like a very modest system. I would imagine that the GTX 1060 will struggle.

Also, 8GB of RAM seems rather meagre by today's standards (although I know that it wasn't that long ago when it would have been respectable).
It was the best bang for buck at the time and it’s been great but I am not a big gamer, it has coped so far with everything I have tried on it and fits in with the specs they recommend but don’t want to buy a Rift and find it can’t cope.

Pc hardware seems really expensive at the moment compare to what I remember, 150 quid for 16 go ram for example.
Cypto Mining has ruined GFX card prices for the masses, a 1060 should cope just fine running the Rift, I run it on a much lower card and with some adjustments hear and there I am yet to find something I can't get to work smile

Yes some extra RAM wouldn't hurt but check the slots on your PC, you probably only need to add 8GB rather than replace the lot..

RizzoTheRat

25,165 posts

192 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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The 6GB 1060 seems to be fitted in a fair few new build PCs that the manufacturers claim are VR ready so you should be OK.

With the new 20xx cards out now is expect to start seeing a lot of 1070 and 1080 cards showing up on eBay or Facebook sales groups as the early adopters upgrade.

J4CKO

41,562 posts

200 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Think will check the ram, wouldn’t mind running some vms for work stuff on it,

Need to check the usb situation as well, it doesn’t seem overburdened with slots so will check what I can add.


Clockwork Cupcake

74,560 posts

272 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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RizzoTheRat said:
With the new 20xx cards out now is expect to start seeing a lot of 1070 and 1080 cards showing up on eBay or Facebook sales groups as the early adopters upgrade.
Already readily available, but prices remain very strong due to CyptoMiners buying them.

The GTX1080Ti is going for around £500-£550 on eBay (UK) at the moment, for example. That's strong money.

I was hoping to upgrade my GTX980 to a GTX1080Ti but with prices remaining so strong it will have to wait for now.

Bullett

10,886 posts

184 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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1060 should run it but it's probably the minimum spec with all the problems that min spec brings. OR is slightly better on lower spec hardware than the Vive in my experience.

VR is very sensitive to framerates, well the VR isn't but your brain is. You need to ideally maintain a solid 90fps is the common practice. Much lower or inconsistent frame rates will cause VR sickness. Some people are more sensitive to this than others and some games more sensitive.
What sort of thing are you looking to do. Seated, standing or roomscale?

Northbloke

643 posts

219 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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I had a fairly new PC so thought I would give VR a go on there to see if it coped and upgrade if not.

I have an i5-7400 @3.00GHz with 8GB of RAM and Nvidia GTX1050.

On loading Oculus I get an error message that says my set up might not cope...but it does...mostly.

Assetto Corsa is fine on single player lap times (and utterly brilliant, worth the money alone) but can't really cope with 20 car grids.

Most other games play fine: Lone Echo is graphically amazing but found the kids didn't return to it after a while. They like "Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes" bomb defusing game best. I keep falling over when playing it!

Can't get Subnautica to play without crashing.

I actually think the free VR Google Earth is brilliant with the easy to use controls allowing you to fly around anywhere zooming in and out. Seen all the main tourist spots now so saved on holidays!

So I borderline scrape by but would upgrade if prices were cheaper. Yes I heard Crypto mining mentioned as a cause (but don't really understand it).

J4CKO

41,562 posts

200 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Bullett said:
1060 should run it but it's probably the minimum spec with all the problems that min spec brings. OR is slightly better on lower spec hardware than the Vive in my experience.

VR is very sensitive to framerates, well the VR isn't but your brain is. You need to ideally maintain a solid 90fps is the common practice. Much lower or inconsistent frame rates will cause VR sickness. Some people are more sensitive to this than others and some games more sensitive.
What sort of thing are you looking to do. Seated, standing or roomscale?
No sure, just want to experience VR really, there is a WW2 bomber thing on Steam that looks good, other than that just try it out, can get my head round £379 for an OR, but done want to have to spend a grand or so to get the pc up to spec on top of that.


geeks

9,188 posts

139 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Guys, a 1060 is above the min spec for the Rift, everything will run just fine on one.

Min spec is the gtx 960, I am running a 760 (so even lower) and get Elite Dangerous, Project Cars 2, IL-2, Superhot, Beatsabre etc all to work fine! Elite has to be tweaked I will grant you it took me a few hours of tweeks to get it right everything else has just worked out the box!