Advice on sim racing gear
Discussion
Bullett said:
There is little vr racing on the PS. Very limited.
PC is best, but as stated it’s pricey. I replaced my VR rig this year and it cost me just over £2k for an i9/3080 based rig. You could do it with some lower spec cpus and gpu but I’d not go lower than a 3070 for a quality experience.
It’s another grand for an index but a teathered oculus is less.
I assume by replaced you mean just the internals reusing all your old peripherals/screen etc? The last 3080 I saw for sale was 1500 alone! Must admit I haven't looked for a while as a result...PC is best, but as stated it’s pricey. I replaced my VR rig this year and it cost me just over £2k for an i9/3080 based rig. You could do it with some lower spec cpus and gpu but I’d not go lower than a 3070 for a quality experience.
It’s another grand for an index but a teathered oculus is less.
^ Ah sorry I see the LC mod is more of a purchased upgrade than what I envisaged which was you taking an angle grinder to your pedals and bodging together some bits from the RS catalogue and demon tweeks 
... can't go wrong for 60 quid! I think that probably has to be the best bang for buck upgrade anyone could make.
... can't go wrong for 60 quid! I think that probably has to be the best bang for buck upgrade anyone could make.Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 20th December 17:14
Bullett said:
Solid man-maths there.
By replaced I meant that I purchased a whole PC. The only way to get a card at a reasonable price, I usually self build but it was impossible to get what I wanted as bits.
Interesting thanks. Well that shows you how f'ked the market is! Likewise I always build my own, mostly for fun but you usually can't buy a system close in terms of performance for the same money. Where did you buy from if you don't mind sharing?By replaced I meant that I purchased a whole PC. The only way to get a card at a reasonable price, I usually self build but it was impossible to get what I wanted as bits.
Bullett said:
Scan. I think they are the UK distributor so obviously have an inside track.
The whole thing was £2067 inc a 3080, i9, 16GB mem and 1TB ssd.
Cheers. I've been looking on a few US sites (usually cheaper and easier for me to ship) and 3080 built systems are about $500 cheaper than buying separate! Makes no sense. If it was a chip shortage you'd think it would affect their supplies all the same and I don't think anyone mines crypto with gfx anymore do they?The whole thing was £2067 inc a 3080, i9, 16GB mem and 1TB ssd.
wombleh said:
CSL DD base is showing as not in stock until June next year!
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Yeah they are having a supply chain shocker by the look of it. Mine was ordered in Oct for Nov delivery, then Dec, then Jan and it just arrived at my freight forwarder in Miami yesterday so they are all over the place. Hopefully it will make them reconsider manufacturing in China!...
Taken a while but the CSL DD wheel and Clubsport v3 pedals finally arrived. Took a bit of effort to fit as the geometry of the wheel base is completely different. First impressions are very good. Amazing quality stuff. I didn't really understand what the benefit of all that power in the dd wheels is but it's clear as day in game; it's not that it rips the wheel out your hand but that you feel everything going on between the tyres and the road, like a real car, not like some random rumble. I mean you really feel everything it's absolutely brilliant. If I have a complaint it's that the quick release collar that I'll never use is maybe nylon and there is some flex, small but meh; maybe it's better that that flex than you bend the column if you clobber the wheel getting in and out your seat I don't know. The pedals are as good if not better than most real cars and the brake on it's hardest setting feels about the same as a sports car but I've yet to do the supplied mod which replaces the spring with a hard rubber for the full race car feel. The shakers on the pedals are kind of fun for some feel of slip and wheel spin but the brake one feels very weak as it struggles to shake it on the hard spring; not sure I'll feel it at all after the mod.
So the proof is in the driving I guess and I thought I'd do a few iracing laps of Spa in the legacy GT3 Cup which I haven't played for about 4 months. I absolutely smashed my lap record time and time again like 2-3-4 seconds but even more surprising instead of crashing out every other lap I ran out of fuel after 10 laps of practice... I'm honestly totally shocked, I struggled so much with that car before with the old Fanatec elite wheel and didn't even try with the logitech.
I think if you learned to drive in a real car then your muscle memory and skills are probably more transferable to sims with the more realistic kit, which kind of makes sense. Hopefully with the kids learning on it it'll be more transferable into real life too. Maybe. If you learned to race on a sim with less expensive kit I don't know if more realistic kit would necessarily make you faster, but it certainly has me.
In summary, the DD is absolutely brilliant IMO, even for a casual sim racer like me.
So the proof is in the driving I guess and I thought I'd do a few iracing laps of Spa in the legacy GT3 Cup which I haven't played for about 4 months. I absolutely smashed my lap record time and time again like 2-3-4 seconds but even more surprising instead of crashing out every other lap I ran out of fuel after 10 laps of practice... I'm honestly totally shocked, I struggled so much with that car before with the old Fanatec elite wheel and didn't even try with the logitech.
I think if you learned to drive in a real car then your muscle memory and skills are probably more transferable to sims with the more realistic kit, which kind of makes sense. Hopefully with the kids learning on it it'll be more transferable into real life too. Maybe. If you learned to race on a sim with less expensive kit I don't know if more realistic kit would necessarily make you faster, but it certainly has me.
In summary, the DD is absolutely brilliant IMO, even for a casual sim racer like me.
Hope you have some luck with game support. Yes mine is the 8NM one too (which is just a very expensive power supply, AIUI the base is identical ). When it gets supported I'm certain you'll be able to discern slip and spin if you can in a real car, it feels so realistic, it's pretty remarkable. I want to go play now but the wife is WFH today and I'll get in trouble
Thought I'd do a quick update on the miss shifts I've been plagued with on the Fanatec Clubsport Shifter for the last couple of years. It has such a beautiful mechanical motion that I've persevered every 6 months with a new fix that didn't work. I noticed that it got worse with my mobile near it... then it dawned on me... did a quick continuity test from the metal shell of the shifter and earth and it's not grounded. Made a quick earth cable to the PC case and can't get it to miss-shift no matter how many times I try. Finally! Yes I'm very pleased with myself So lesson learned; if you've got a wooden rig and spurious issues, check your grounds!
(of course having now figured this out, if you search for Fanatec EMI issues 'the internet' tells you to make sure everything is properly grounded... which presupposes you know you have EMI issues)
So lesson learned; if you've got a wooden rig and spurious issues, check your grounds!(of course having now figured this out, if you search for Fanatec EMI issues 'the internet' tells you to make sure everything is properly grounded... which presupposes you know you have EMI issues)
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