Anyone else not impressed with the PS5 so far?

Anyone else not impressed with the PS5 so far?

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ajprice

27,484 posts

196 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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I have the first versions of Xbox One and PS4, I had the original 360 and fat PS3 too. I'll probably do the same with the new ones. Does anybody leave it until the updated versions (Slim/Pro/One X) to update their stuff
to next gen rather than the Day 1 versions?

SmoothCriminal

5,059 posts

199 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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Aren't sony making a big thing out of it being an ssd so surely if you have to expand and use a normal hdd it will compromise the games?

PanicBuyingBogRoll

1,936 posts

62 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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Welshbeef said:
How many years will you wait for that? Or part x your PS5 with disc slot in against it
I'm sure it won't take too long for the slim/pro/larger drive version to appear. I'd give it 12 months. Until then I'll have use of my PS4 Pro back biggrin

Basil Brush

5,083 posts

263 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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ajprice said:
I have the first versions of Xbox One and PS4, I had the original 360 and fat PS3 too. I'll probably do the same with the new ones. Does anybody leave it until the updated versions (Slim/Pro/One X) to update their stuff
to next gen rather than the Day 1 versions?
I've got all my launch day Xboxes but not had a playstation since the ps2.


DanL

6,215 posts

265 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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SmoothCriminal said:
Aren't sony making a big thing out of it being an ssd so surely if you have to expand and use a normal hdd it will compromise the games?
Expand with an SSD then? smile About £150 for 1TB these days...

I’m wondering if you can plug an optical drive into the digital version, in case you want to start using discs.

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Wouldn't it make more sense to just get the version with optical and ssd, than mess around for a small saving.

ajprice

27,484 posts

196 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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DanL said:
SmoothCriminal said:
Aren't sony making a big thing out of it being an ssd so surely if you have to expand and use a normal hdd it will compromise the games?
Expand with an SSD then? smile About £150 for 1TB these days...
Unless there's an SSD slot on the back like the Xbox (we haven't seen the back of the PS5 yet) it would depend on whether an extermal USB 3 connection is as fast as the internal SSD, I don't think it would be.

DanL

6,215 posts

265 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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ajprice said:
Unless there's an SSD slot on the back like the Xbox (we haven't seen the back of the PS5 yet) it would depend on whether an extermal USB 3 connection is as fast as the internal SSD, I don't think it would be.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2360306/usb-3-0-speed-real-and-imagined.html

Should be plenty fast enough, I’d think... Even if it’s a little slower, it’ll still be “enough”?

DanL

6,215 posts

265 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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hyphen said:
Wouldn't it make more sense to just get the version with optical and ssd, than mess around for a small saving.
SSD is part of the system, isn’t it? It’s just that some are concerned that ~800GB isn’t enough space, and may need expanding onto external storage.

As for optical - I prefer the look of the thing without the drive, and have only bought digitally in the last year or two. However, it would be nice to know if I’d be locked out of the option to buy discs if I picked the digital only console... If I would, I might buy the one with the optical drive just in case.

Lucas Ayde

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3,557 posts

168 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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ajprice said:
I have the first versions of Xbox One and PS4, I had the original 360 and fat PS3 too. I'll probably do the same with the new ones. Does anybody leave it until the updated versions (Slim/Pro/One X) to update their stuff
to next gen rather than the Day 1 versions?
The only console I ever bought 'day one' (or in the first week) was the Dreamcast. Didn't really regret it as it was quite a special bit of hardware, really felt like something unique.

Eventually moved to an Xbox (original) when it had been out for a while and had changed to the smaller controllers instead of the 'Dukes' which had always put me off.

Got a PS3 about a year after it was released, just before they dropped the OG model which could play PS2 games and SACDs for the cost-reduced successor which dropped that and a load of other neat hardware feaures. I basically bought it at that point because I liked the OGs features and wanted to get the model before it was discontinued.

Picked up an X360 cheap on a Black Friday sale, the last revision of the first design just before the heavily redesigned Slim version, hence the cheap price. Never used it much though.

Waited for PS4 Pro before making jump to that gen and also waited until there were deals on the Pro before spashing the cash.

I have waaaaay to much unplayed or hardly played stuff now on PS4 format (not to mention an expanding Stream Library on PC) so I certainly won't be buying either PS5 or Xbox Series X until they have been out for a while, probably when there is a hardware refresh and there is a cheaper, smaller case redesign.

I may even just go all in on PC and stream those games to my Nvidia Shield for 'console' gaming on the TV.

Lucas Ayde

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3,557 posts

168 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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ajprice said:
Unless there's an SSD slot on the back like the Xbox (we haven't seen the back of the PS5 yet) it would depend on whether an extermal USB 3 connection is as fast as the internal SSD, I don't think it would be.
From what I can tell, the PS5 seems to be using an M.2 slot for the SSD using NVMe on PCI Express 4.0.

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/71340/understanding...


That would imply that you could fit third party M.2 PCIe4.0 NVMe drives; The article above says 'Select PC SSDs' which means either Sony have to explicitly enable those models in the OS and will block non-authorised SSDs or else manufacturers have to fit some sort of hardware chip supplied by Sony. Probably the former. Almost certainly some sort of licensing fee will be levied by Sony to the manufacturer so those drives are going to be a little bit more expensive than most, I would say (PCIe 4.0 NVMe drives are not exactly cheap as it is).

Jasandjules

69,895 posts

229 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Well I intend to upgrade the SSD if I can at all. Can't quite decide whether to get it on release day yet or not though ! So far no "awesome" games that I want so no real reason to bother. Hoping something special comes along soon.

p1stonhead

25,549 posts

167 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Jasandjules said:
Well I intend to upgrade the SSD if I can at all. Can't quite decide whether to get it on release day yet or not though ! So far no "awesome" games that I want so no real reason to bother. Hoping something special comes along soon.
Given how much Sony are making a big deal about the SSD I doubt it’s upgradable. I’d imagine you’d be able to put a secondary one in though.

NWMark

517 posts

216 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Leicester Loyal said:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Prodigious-PS5-price...

Article shows the supposedly leaked prices. £349 for the digital version, £449 for the normal. November 20th as the global release date.
Those UK prices are converted from an original Japanese price - at least got to add VAT.

Digital - £429?
Disc - £549?

who knows?!?!?

SmoothCriminal

5,059 posts

199 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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Display it vertically but have to buy an additional stand for it sneaky Sony, although I am glad default is horizontal as that's the space I'm planning on putting mine.

p1stonhead

25,549 posts

167 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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SmoothCriminal said:
Display it vertically but have to buy an additional stand for it sneaky Sony, although I am glad default is horizontal as that's the space I'm planning on putting mine.
Where does it say it doesn’t come with a stand? Looks to me like the horizontal and vertical stand are one and the same.

DanL

6,215 posts

265 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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SmoothCriminal said:
Display it vertically but have to buy an additional stand for it sneaky Sony, although I am glad default is horizontal as that's the space I'm planning on putting mine.
Didn’t they do this with one of the other ones? PS3 maybe?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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DanL said:
SmoothCriminal said:
Display it vertically but have to buy an additional stand for it sneaky Sony, although I am glad default is horizontal as that's the space I'm planning on putting mine.
Didn’t they do this with one of the other ones? PS3 maybe?
The PS2 was the first vertical one as I remember being able to turn the logo on the drive, it was however not the most stable thing vertically, I remember that Sony released a stand that held the memory cards (remember those eek) which made it much more stable

The_Cheeseman

617 posts

186 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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I'm sure I read somewhere that you'll be able to expand the drives with external disks... but they would have to swap to the internal disk to actually be played. Due to the way the games are going to be designed to make use of the super fast SSDs for streaming assets.

Leicester Loyal

4,547 posts

122 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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https://www.kotaku.co.uk/2020/07/02/nba-2k21-will-...

£65 for NBA 2k21 on the store. This is why I'll be getting a console with a disc drive!