Anyone else not impressed with the PS5 so far?

[anonymous-user]

Had an interesting pop-up on Fifa yesterday basically saying if I buy Fifa 21 on PS4 it'll auto roll over to PS5, have to look at the T&C's assuming its digital copies but guessing they are worried about releasing in Oct and no one buying it

[hyphen]

Mafffew said:

The only way I can see myself getting either console at launch is if the pricing is really competitive. I like the stance that Microsoft have taken with the Xbox, but I can play old games on my One. PS5 has some interesting games, but nothing that would make me buy the console, plus I think it looks a bit ridiculous.

Maybe it is me, but it feels like both parties have been quite underwhelming so far. They need a big "wow" moment, however I am not seeing where that will come from.

Will it not be a traditional Christmas launch? i.e. limited supply and every parent desperate to get one for their kids.

[p1stonhead]

Perhaps. But if it’s really about £500 will many parents really spend that much? Maybe I’m out of touch

[Jasandjules]

p1stonhead said:

Perhaps. But if it’s really about £500 will many parents really spend that much? Maybe I’m out of touch

Well I will be buying it for me, suspect my PS4 will go to my son........ £500 is acceptable, though I would expect it to be £400...

[Boydie88]

hyphen said:

But they will compete in other ways if PS5 is outselling them. Drop price/bundle deals and offers and so on.

Xbox can't let PS5 outsell them too much, otherwise games companies will make PS5 the priority.

I'm not sure if they'll care too much if the hardware sales are down - they make their money from Game Pass subscriptions, by making 'ex-exclusives' available to PC, they'll only bump up the Game Pass subs even more.

Even as Xbox fan, it seems they're waving the white flag in the console war itself and have moved to a hand in hand strategy with the PC format and games companies aren't going to abandon making PC games any time soon.

Series X just looks set to be a budget hyper PC for the lounge.

[5harp3y]

in a world where phones cost £1000+ is £500 on a games console that will last 10 years be that much of a problem?

[Welshbeef]

5harp3y said:

in a world where phones cost £1000+ is £500 on a games console that will last 10 years be that much of a problem?

This & for the casual gamer the digital option which Lockheart might be £249 would be an utter bargain for 8 odd years

[ecsrobin]

Game are offering £170+ cash for a PS4 pro. Very tempting to sell up in anticipation of the 5 as I’m guessing them prices will fall quickly once launch day arrives?

[A Winner Is You]

Welshbeef said:

5harp3y said:

in a world where phones cost £1000+ is £500 on a games console that will last 10 years be that much of a problem?

This & for the casual gamer the digital option which Lockheart might be £249 would be an utter bargain for 8 odd years

Very few people pay £1000+ upfront for a phone though, the vast majority are brought on contract.

[p1stonhead]

Microsoft blinked.

Series X
10th November
$499

Assume £499 too I guess?

Also they have a Series S
$299

Not even sure what that is?! Digital only and a bit less powerful apparently.

Edited by p1stonhead on Tuesday 8th September 09:33

[ajprice]

p1stonhead said:

Microsoft blinked.

Series X
10th November
$499

Assume £499 too I guess?

Also they have a Series S
$299

Not even sure what that is?! Digital only and a bit less powerful apparently.

Edited by p1stonhead on Tuesday 8th September 09:33

UK Series S price is £249 (just been posted in the Xbox thread), so maybe £449 for the Series X if it's $499 ?

[p1stonhead]

ajprice said:

p1stonhead said:

Microsoft blinked.

Series X
10th November
$499

Assume £499 too I guess?

Also they have a Series S
$299

Not even sure what that is?! Digital only and a bit less powerful apparently.

Edited by p1stonhead on Tuesday 8th September 09:33

UK Series S price is £249 (just been posted in the Xbox thread), so maybe £449 for the Series X if it's $499 ?

Very good pricing. I expect the PS5 to be £100 more personally.

[Crafty_]

Boydie88 said:

I'm not sure if they'll care too much if the hardware sales are down - they make their money from Game Pass subscriptions, by making 'ex-exclusives' available to PC, they'll only bump up the Game Pass subs even more.

Even as Xbox fan, it seems they're waving the white flag in the console war itself and have moved to a hand in hand strategy with the PC format and games companies aren't going to abandon making PC games any time soon.

Series X just looks set to be a budget hyper PC for the lounge.

They make little to no money from gamepass
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-game-pass-i...

Numerous other articles out there.

There are existing subscribers that got in on a cheap deals (for example https://www.pcworld.com/article/3404524/get-3-year... - there have been others too.

What they are hoping is they can snag people in to the subscription model and then raise prices. MS will have to support Xbox for some time yet - losses on hardware (as normal), gamepass making a token profit, they have invested in the purchase of studios over the past few years, so there is quite a bit of investment to pay back there too.

I guess where they make money at the moment is digital game sales (allegedly they take 30% as the PSN store does).

Gamepass fits the SaaS (or GaaS in this case) model, the question is can they raise prices enough to make it profitable, cover hardware losses, repay investment. Retaining regular subscribers will be important. I'd suggest the Series S machine will help with that for casuals.

[Leicester Loyal]

Think for the first time in 14 years I'll be moving over to Sony, a lot of my mates are the same, we fancy a change.

[5harp3y]

A Winner Is You said:

Welshbeef said:

5harp3y said:

in a world where phones cost £1000+ is £500 on a games console that will last 10 years be that much of a problem?

This & for the casual gamer the digital option which Lockheart might be £249 would be an utter bargain for 8 odd years

Very few people pay £1000+ upfront for a phone though, the vast majority are brought on contract.

indeed, more a statement about the true cost of 'things' rather than the mechanism

[hyphen]

p1stonhead said:

Microsoft blinked.

I read it was leaked so they had to announce it.

[ajprice]

If you have no idea where you're going to fit a PS5 under your TV, Sony have you covered, there will be a wall mount for it
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020/09/ps5_too_bi...

[ecsrobin]

Reports suggesting a ps5 price and launch date today.

[A Winner Is You]

Surely they'll have to match or better the price of the Series X.

[CustardOnChips]

ajprice said:

If you have no idea where you're going to fit a PS5 under your TV, Sony have you covered, there will be a wall mount for it
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020/09/ps5_too_bi...

My PS4 was mounted on the wall hidden behind my TV. It should be back there now but I haven't been arsed to put it back after redecorating.
The mounts were less than a tenner from ebay.