Anyone else not impressed with the PS5 so far?

Anyone else not impressed with the PS5 so far?

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p1stonhead

25,568 posts

168 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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anarki said:
p1stonhead said:
cheesewotsit said:
Was thinking about this a bit recently. As someone who's switched between Nintendo, Sony and MS for console choice - currently have a Switch Lite and an X1 - I'm thinking about investing my £500 in to a PC to run some games. I don't need some mega resolution 8k set-up, but I feel I miss out on stuff that's on PC, or only possible on PC - ie, wreckfest mods - over console.
Having ordered a £1500 gaming PC recently (then cancelled it because I realised I honestly didn’t need it) I think you’ll be very disappointed in what £500 might get you in terms of a gaming PC.

£500 won’t play anything near PS5 or X1X levels of games. The graphics card alone in the one I was buying GTX 2070 Super was something like £500 on its own. And it wasn’t anywhere near the top of the tree.
The poster said he doesn't want a mega setup or anything. You can easily get a PC for around £500 that will play Wreckfest or BeamNG drive at 1080P V.High or 1440P Medium/high. Both games are really good fun due to the mods available - something that console gamers miss out on unfortunately.

A 2070 Super is overkill if all he wants to do is tinker with mods on games that aren't that demanding.
In a discussion about a next gen console you’d think he would at least want to get some of the way there.

Of course you can get a £500 PC to play minesweeper if you want but it’s hardly relevant to a discussion about alternatives to the PS5 is it?

Brainpox

4,056 posts

152 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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£600 for something that should last 6-7 years is nothing nowadays.

Someone posted earlier about a special 825GB drive. Exciting, except that once the OS is on, you'll probably get 500GB of that to use, which is not enough.

Looking forward to tonight's event, I only hope it shows something tangible, rather than non-gameplay trailers.

I'm not really bothered about comparing tit for tat with Xbox. Three generations in, it's obvious the numbers don't mean much, the experience is broadly similar, save for exclusives.

anarki

760 posts

137 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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p1stonhead said:
anarki said:
p1stonhead said:
cheesewotsit said:
Was thinking about this a bit recently. As someone who's switched between Nintendo, Sony and MS for console choice - currently have a Switch Lite and an X1 - I'm thinking about investing my £500 in to a PC to run some games. I don't need some mega resolution 8k set-up, but I feel I miss out on stuff that's on PC, or only possible on PC - ie, wreckfest mods - over console.
Having ordered a £1500 gaming PC recently (then cancelled it because I realised I honestly didn’t need it) I think you’ll be very disappointed in what £500 might get you in terms of a gaming PC.

£500 won’t play anything near PS5 or X1X levels of games. The graphics card alone in the one I was buying GTX 2070 Super was something like £500 on its own. And it wasn’t anywhere near the top of the tree.
The poster said he doesn't want a mega setup or anything. You can easily get a PC for around £500 that will play Wreckfest or BeamNG drive at 1080P V.High or 1440P Medium/high. Both games are really good fun due to the mods available - something that console gamers miss out on unfortunately.

A 2070 Super is overkill if all he wants to do is tinker with mods on games that aren't that demanding.
In a discussion about a next gen console you’d think he would at least want to get some of the way there.

Of course you can get a £500 PC to play minesweeper if you want but it’s hardly relevant to a discussion about alternatives to the PS5 is it?
Passive aggressive much biggrin What I was trying to get across is that the poster specifically said they weren't after pushing the limits of an "8k setup". I read into that as their preference for their next purchase is to have the ability to customize their games rather than the raw graphical grunt that the PS5 is likely to provide.

If what they are after is the ability to run some mods on games, then it is doable with a budget PC setup is all I'm saying.

And by budget setup I mean a Ryzen 5 2600, 16GB 3200MHz DDR4, 240GB SSD, RX 580, etc.

That setup will still be able to run games that come out in the next year or two at 1080p medium/high settings I would have thought.

Jasandjules

69,924 posts

230 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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I suspect that the £600 will be for a larger Hard Drive and the "normal" PS5 will be £500 for the 800GB SSD

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Radec said:
Will probably need to budget about £1k plus for a new 4k telly with hdmi 2.1 also to take into account if you want to use the max features of next gen graphically etc.

Hopefully see tonight how good ps5 when everything is confirmed in the launch at 9
Not so sure - if your the sort of person who goes out and buys launch games consoles you’d certainly have a 4K TV OLED.

You buy a OLDD 4K tv that will last 10 years as the main TV or even if only for 5 years can move to the second room and upgrade again. As in a constant churn of TVs.

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Next gen is 8k though.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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I got 4K OLED earlier in the yeat, so PS5 will do the 4K for me and then if I get an 8K TV in the future, it'll do that too no?

gregs656

10,903 posts

182 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Welshbeef said:
Not so sure - if your the sort of person who goes out and buys launch games consoles you’d certainly have a 4K TV OLED.
You do say some daft things.

I had an xbox, 360, 1 (years after launch) and now have a PS4. I don't have a strong preference any more, although I think the PS4 controller is rubbish compared to any xbox controller I have had.

I doubt I will rush in to by a PS5 or xbox - like someone else said once there is a well of titles available they become better value.


p1stonhead

25,568 posts

168 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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I didn’t even know the next generation consoles did 8k. That’ll be a sight to see one day.

8k tech will become cheap soon enough. You can get a 75 inch 4K tv for £700 now.

cheesewotsit

285 posts

110 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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anarki said:
Passive aggressive much biggrin What I was trying to get across is that the poster specifically said they weren't after pushing the limits of an "8k setup". I read into that as their preference for their next purchase is to have the ability to customize their games rather than the raw graphical grunt that the PS5 is likely to provide.

If what they are after is the ability to run some mods on games, then it is doable with a budget PC setup is all I'm saying.

And by budget setup I mean a Ryzen 5 2600, 16GB 3200MHz DDR4, 240GB SSD, RX 580, etc.

That setup will still be able to run games that come out in the next year or two at 1080p medium/high settings I would have thought.
Gosh.

Yes, my opinion possibly wasn't best shared on a specific PS5 thread. I've never put graphics on a high priority, wanting the latest and greatest. I think it's more the realisation that I feel quite restricted with modern consoles compared to PC - and my enjoyment would be increased greater by having more flexibility to modding, etc. Things I've played more recently are wreckfest, snowrunner, nascar 4, farming sim. Nothing graphically ground breaking, but the PC side is just opened up massively.

This is PH, home of man maths. I'm sure my £500 imaginary budget isn't completely set in stone, but - if I am going to spend £500 to play new games (albeit games I want to play, not necc 8k graphically demanding games) it probably won't be in a new console.

To which point, I'll go start my own thread about 'cheap' gaming PCs. (y)

HRL

3,341 posts

220 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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p1stonhead said:
Are there any ‘killer’ titles for the PS5 announced?

In theory I want the PS5 but I also want the next gen Halo to be honest which means going for the Xbox....
Unless you've already got a half decent PC? Think the next one is coming to PC at launch too.

p1stonhead

25,568 posts

168 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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HRL said:
p1stonhead said:
Are there any ‘killer’ titles for the PS5 announced?

In theory I want the PS5 but I also want the next gen Halo to be honest which means going for the Xbox....
Unless you've already got a half decent PC? Think the next one is coming to PC at launch too.
You’re absolutely right! PS5 it is then! I’ll grab halo for PC.

Radec

3,852 posts

48 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Welshbeef said:
Radec said:
Will probably need to budget about £1k plus for a new 4k telly with hdmi 2.1 also to take into account if you want to use the max features of next gen graphically etc.

Hopefully see tonight how good ps5 when everything is confirmed in the launch at 9
Not so sure - if your the sort of person who goes out and buys launch games consoles you’d certainly have a 4K TV OLED.

You buy a OLDD 4K tv that will last 10 years as the main TV or even if only for 5 years can move to the second room and upgrade again. As in a constant churn of TVs.
It's not the 4k TV bit that's the issue as there's loads of them about, it's the full bandwidth hdmi 2.1 port, there aren't a lot of TVs on the market that have this yet.

This allows you to take full capability of its features like low latency mode and variable refresh rate etc
How much difference it will make compared to normal 4k I don't know, but for future proofing or to get max capabilities out of next gen consoles if you need it then It's something to keep in mind, in case anyone is looking at upgrading their TVs as well.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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gregs656 said:
You do say some daft things.

I had an xbox, 360, 1 (years after launch) and now have a PS4. I don't have a strong preference any more, although I think the PS4 controller is rubbish compared to any xbox controller I have had.

I doubt I will rush in to by a PS5 or xbox - like someone else said once there is a well of titles available they become better value.
Not really. You have a proportion of people who always buy latest tech as soon as it’s out always have done always will.


p1stonhead

25,568 posts

168 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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p1stonhead said:
Personally the one thing I’m thoroughly fed up with is needing multiple gigabyte updates CONSTANTLY to just play the games.

Gonna sound like an old man but back in the day they had to make sure the game was finished when it shipped originally!
This is the crap I’m talking about. Today’s update (not my picture though)

Leicester Loyal

4,552 posts

123 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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I'll be waiting a few months before getting the new console as I always do. I've gone from PS1 to PS2 to Xbox 360 to Xbox One, so I'm not sure which way I'll go this time. I've always preferred the Xbox controller, but I think PS has better exclusives at the minute.

Looking forward to the launch at 9pm, hopefully the price and specs will become a lot clearer.

p1stonhead

25,568 posts

168 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Leicester Loyal said:
I'll be waiting a few months before getting the new console as I always do. I've gone from PS1 to PS2 to Xbox 360 to Xbox One, so I'm not sure which way I'll go this time. I've always preferred the Xbox controller, but I think PS has better exclusives at the minute.

Looking forward to the launch at 9pm, hopefully the price and specs will become a lot clearer.
My money is on £499

RBrom77

9 posts

49 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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p1stonhead said:
This is the crap I’m talking about. Today’s update (not my picture though)
My update was only 33Gb, 80 is crazy!

p1stonhead

25,568 posts

168 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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RBrom77 said:
p1stonhead said:
This is the crap I’m talking about. Today’s update (not my picture though)
My update was only 33Gb, 80 is crazy!
Someone done fked up it seems.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53008182

Gun

13,431 posts

219 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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GT7 confirmed!