Anyone else not impressed with the PS5 so far?
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NextSquareRoot said:
Unless it auto updates the games im not interested, i want a console for the plug and play aspect, if i have to wait 30mins for a game to update even when is been on standby all week and downloaded the update i might as well spend the money on a gaming pc. GT sport is an arcade game compared to the competition on pc the only appeal is the ease of use but if my limited time is taken up by updates there really is no point of a console for my use.
I agree that it should do it for free, but this is a feature of PS Plus - my games update in standby. Edited for clarity.
Edited by DanL on Saturday 7th November 09:37
DanL said:
agree that it should do it for free, but this is a feature of PS Plus - my games update in standby.
Edited for clarity.
Auto-updating on my PS4 Pro is sporadic for games ... often times I'll find that I'm prompted to update when I go to run them (or I start randomly checking for updates and many games have them available, and I don't think it's because they happened to have come out that day). OS upgrades are always auto-downloaded.Edited for clarity.
Edited by DanL on Saturday 7th November 09:37
In contrast, on my primary PS3 all games always auto-updated (secondary PS3 was manual).
Ruskie said:
The reviews are very positive. I just wish the initial game line up was stronger and it had that killer title.
Demon's Souls was a fantastic game on the PS3 and the PS5 remake looks simply incredible. Aside from the difficulty likely being more than many people are ready for, it's one of the best ever launch titles for a new console IMO.That said, not enough to make me take the plunge (I don't really want to grind again after playing it so much on PS3). I just think that the physical design is a bit of a horlicks in the name of using brute force cooling. The Series X seems much better designed physically. I'm hoping that there will be a 'slim' version of the PS5 available within 12 months. I'm in no hurry to upgrade - waited until PS4 Pro before I got into the PS4 from the PS3. And I may yet go for Series X and just keep my PS4 Pro depending on how we see things play out and the hidden advantages and disadvantages of both next-gen systems.
Lucas Ayde said:
Ruskie said:
The Series X seems much better designed physically. I'm hoping that there will be a 'slim' version of the PS5 available within 12 months. I'm in no hurry to upgrade - waited until PS4 Pro before I got into the PS4 from the PS3. And I may yet go for Series X and just keep my PS4 Pro depending on how we see things play out and the hidden advantages and disadvantages of both next-gen systems.
If they can get the PS5 to produce less heat then they can use a smaller cooler down the line, otherwise it is always size that works for air cooling. The fact it is huge should mean the fan speed and noise is much lower. You probably could cool it with a much smaller heatsink and a 3,000rpm fan or two but the noise would suck and would be in line with what people complained about on the Ps4 and first Ps4 pro. Personally I'd like a big lazy air cooler and see it as a good solution.
Ruskie said:
The reviews are very positive. I just wish the initial game line up was stronger and it had that killer title.
This is the massive blow to me too. I have bought COD just so I have a game and will try out some of the freebies that come with it (Days Gone for example). Apart from that it will be a while before I find a game that I truly want that is "Upgraded" to account for the PS5 power I suspect.Jasandjules said:
This is the massive blow to me too. I have bought COD just so I have a game and will try out some of the freebies that come with it (Days Gone for example). Apart from that it will be a while before I find a game that I truly want that is "Upgraded" to account for the PS5 power I suspect.
I honestly wish I could erase days gone from my memory, so that I could have a fresh run at it on Ps5, one of the best games of the gen, will defiantly be having a re-run unless days gone 2 comes out firstBut yes, in terms of Ps5 titles I’m disappointed at launch too, actually think the only game I’m getting is cod, not sure demon souls is my kind of game but will have another look at some reviews, at £60-70 a pop though I’m reluctant to waste.
I do like the setting of watchdogs though, although I didn’t play much of watchdogs 1 even though I bought it
Been stated that the M.2 expansion port won't work at launch until a firmware update is available,and you can't even store PS5 games (not play from, just store until needed) on an external drive to free up space. Sony always seems to come up and do some half measures things for no discernible reason sometimes.
Lucas Ayde said:
I'm hoping that there will be a 'slim' version of the PS5 available within 12 months.
Extremely unlikely. Slim versions always come a few years down the line, when sales start to slow and Sony have had enough time to develop it.A slimmer ps5 cheaper to transport and store. If it was possible to slim it down and keep the same RRP, it would be already done.
KingNothing said:
Been stated that the M.2 expansion port won't work at launch until a firmware update is available,and you can't even store PS5 games (not play from, just store until needed) on an external drive to free up space. Sony always seems to come up and do some half measures things for no discernible reason sometimes.
Digital edition starts to make a bit more sense in my mind then... With the game in your library, just download it again if you’ve had to delete it to free up space. Sure, you can’t pick it up again immediately, but were you likely to?I can never decide if I’m an outlier or typical when it comes to games. I’m the only one who uses my console, and generally play one game at a time - perhaps two, one on line focussed (Fortnite, say) and one single player. Once I complete a game, I rarely replay it. So, for me storage isn’t a particular issue... I do delete old games to free up space for newer ones, but I can’t recall ever reinstalling something once it’s deleted.
NextSquareRoot said:
Unless it auto updates the games im not interested, i want a console for the plug and play aspect, if i have to wait 30mins for a game to update even when is been on standby all week and downloaded the update i might as well spend the money on a gaming pc. GT sport is an arcade game compared to the competition on pc the only appeal is the ease of use but if my limited time is taken up by updates there really is no point of a console for my use.
As the new gen consoles have SSD drives, updates will be a whole load quicker.Steven_RW said:
Lucas Ayde said:
Ruskie said:
The Series X seems much better designed physically. I'm hoping that there will be a 'slim' version of the PS5 available within 12 months. I'm in no hurry to upgrade - waited until PS4 Pro before I got into the PS4 from the PS3. And I may yet go for Series X and just keep my PS4 Pro depending on how we see things play out and the hidden advantages and disadvantages of both next-gen systems.
Personally I'd like a big lazy air cooler and see it as a good solution.
I think Sony just went for the quick and easy solution (ie. Make a massive heatsink and fan and put it inside a huge box) to get the PS5 out to market early enough. They have a history of revisiting designs to update them (admittedly, it's typically been because they want to make them cheaper to manufacture) so hopefully they get around to the PS5 sooner rather than later.
Edited by Lucas Ayde on Sunday 8th November 11:38
hyphen said:
Extremely unlikely. Slim versions always come a few years down the line, when sales start to slow and Sony have had enough time to develop it.
A slimmer ps5 cheaper to transport and store. If it was possible to slim it down and keep the same RRP, it would be already done.
Sony will revise manufacture as soon as they can if they see the opportunity to cut costs and/or make the machine more appealing to consumers. They did it many times with the PS3 including three separate physical housing designs as well as multiple internal revisions. The base PS4 had two physical housing designs plus multiple internal changes over its lifespan.A slimmer ps5 cheaper to transport and store. If it was possible to slim it down and keep the same RRP, it would be already done.
My only worry would be that they make it worse .... The first big revision of the PS3 about a year after it came out kept the ugly housing but ditched two of the four USB ports, removed the card slots for SD/CF, stopped supporting SACD playback and dropped the hardware PS2 back-compatible components (all of which were things that I found useful). It's what spurred me into buying an OG PS3 at the time, to get one before they downgraded it.
Still on the hunt for some stock before or on release day, but not hopeful.
I was thinking about going for an xbox X instead as these seem easier to get, however i have my PS4 Discs (some exclusives) and Tbh ID RATHER STILL BE able to play them, such as Ghost of Tsushima etc.
Its a right mare not knowing if they have even got decent stock coming for xmas time, its more for the 4k player ATM as the baby keeps me to busy to play and its in the lounge so takes over the telly and not fair on wife if i want to game for a few hours, (more planned for once little one starts nursery and i am quiet with work)
Fingers crossed the come available on GAME on the 15th, even if its for a future date, like a fortnight after.
Might order the headphones and media remote though.....question is Turtle beach stealth 700 bluetooth, or the official PS5 headset...hmm
I was thinking about going for an xbox X instead as these seem easier to get, however i have my PS4 Discs (some exclusives) and Tbh ID RATHER STILL BE able to play them, such as Ghost of Tsushima etc.
Its a right mare not knowing if they have even got decent stock coming for xmas time, its more for the 4k player ATM as the baby keeps me to busy to play and its in the lounge so takes over the telly and not fair on wife if i want to game for a few hours, (more planned for once little one starts nursery and i am quiet with work)
Fingers crossed the come available on GAME on the 15th, even if its for a future date, like a fortnight after.
Might order the headphones and media remote though.....question is Turtle beach stealth 700 bluetooth, or the official PS5 headset...hmm
Rick_1138 said:
Still on the hunt for some stock before or on release day, but not hopeful.
I was thinking about going for an xbox X instead as these seem easier to get, however i have my PS4 Discs (some exclusives) and Tbh ID RATHER STILL BE able to play them, such as Ghost of Tsushima etc.
Its a right mare not knowing if they have even got decent stock coming for xmas time, its more for the 4k player ATM as the baby keeps me to busy to play and its in the lounge so takes over the telly and not fair on wife if i want to game for a few hours, (more planned for once little one starts nursery and i am quiet with work)
Fingers crossed the come available on GAME on the 15th, even if its for a future date, like a fortnight after.
Might order the headphones and media remote though.....question is Turtle beach stealth 700 bluetooth, or the official PS5 headset...hmm
I believe they’ve chartered quite a few freight 747’s to get stock out for launch so hopefully they will have more than preorders. I was thinking about going for an xbox X instead as these seem easier to get, however i have my PS4 Discs (some exclusives) and Tbh ID RATHER STILL BE able to play them, such as Ghost of Tsushima etc.
Its a right mare not knowing if they have even got decent stock coming for xmas time, its more for the 4k player ATM as the baby keeps me to busy to play and its in the lounge so takes over the telly and not fair on wife if i want to game for a few hours, (more planned for once little one starts nursery and i am quiet with work)
Fingers crossed the come available on GAME on the 15th, even if its for a future date, like a fortnight after.
Might order the headphones and media remote though.....question is Turtle beach stealth 700 bluetooth, or the official PS5 headset...hmm
Lucas Ayde said:
Microsoft have managed to engineer a more powerful console than the PS5 using the same basic architecture...
How much more powerful, and is it actually needed vs a faster hard disk? As Sony have focused on the latter and the reported numbers are:IO Throughput
PS5 : 5.5GB/s (Raw), Typical 8-9GB/s (Compressed)
XboxX: 2.4GB/s (Raw), 4.8GB/s (Compressed)
As how many times will you push performance to the limit? Wheras the Sony's 2x faster SSD will be benefited from every second!
Edited by hyphen on Sunday 8th November 21:44
hyphen said:
Lucas Ayde said:
Microsoft have managed to engineer a more powerful console than the PS5 using the same basic architecture...
How much more powerful, and is it actually needed vs a faster hard disk? As Sony have focused on the latter and the reported numbers are:IO Throughput
PS5 : 5.5GB/s (Raw), Typical 8-9GB/s (Compressed)
XboxX: 2.4GB/s (Raw), 4.8GB/s (Compressed)
As how many times will you push performance to the limit? Wheras the Sony's 2x faster SSD will be benefited from every second!
Edited by hyphen on Sunday 8th November 21:44
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