Anyone else not impressed with the PS5 so far?

[Rick_1138]

Just got email from GAME, state new stock coming in for launch day, online only.

Wish they'd say when that sakes start, is it 00:01 or 9 am etc.

[anonymous-user]

Rick_1138 said:

Just got email from GAME, state new stock coming in for launch day, online only.

Wish they'd say when that sakes start, is it 00:01 or 9 am etc.

I'd assume 8am

[Tall_Paul]

Wadeski said:

I'm really torn as to which system to pick up. Whereas usually its a pretty easy pick between consoles (which one has the games you like? which one is more powerful?), this generation, the hardware spec is nigh on identical, but the experience the two companies are promising is radically different. Sony is for continuation of console norms, MS is basically moving to a Netflix model.

I didn't buy an XBONE or PS4 because I'm busy and I hated slow installs, patches, boot ups, and tutorials in the last gen of games. If I have 1hr a week to play games, I don't want to spend 45 mins of that hour watching status bars. I want to push the on button, and blow stuff up.

PS pros:

- I have been a big PS fan (although I chose an 360 over PS3) and love heritage PS games (Tekken, Ridge Racer, etc)
- PS will probably have the best exclusives for the next year (until exclusivity kicks in for the studios MS bought)
- The force feedback controller sounds really, really cool
- Will probably have better support from Japanese developers (my preference is for Japanese arcade style games)

Xbox pros:
- Its much, much better looking. I'm 39 and I've spent a lot of money making my living room look nice. The PS5 looks like an ugly gaming PC.
- "Netflix for games" probably fits my schedule better...and I hope it leads to shorter, more risk-taking games vs 50 hour walking sims.
- Batcompat is actually a thing for me, there are a ton of games from prior gens I missed and would like to try (especially if they are free)
- You get the feeling MS are trying harder this gen, as they are underdogs.

Then again, launch window availability may determine what I CAN buy vs what I might like...

Take a look at the Gamepass games that are available and see what ones actually interest you - I did this the other day and I counted 2, yes 2, games that I was interested in playing.

There's multiple games in the PS+ collection that I'm looking forward to. Gamepass is great, so long as you want to play the games that are included...

[Narcisus]

Tall_Paul said:

Wadeski said:

I'm really torn as to which system to pick up. Whereas usually its a pretty easy pick between consoles (which one has the games you like? which one is more powerful?), this generation, the hardware spec is nigh on identical, but the experience the two companies are promising is radically different. Sony is for continuation of console norms, MS is basically moving to a Netflix model.

I didn't buy an XBONE or PS4 because I'm busy and I hated slow installs, patches, boot ups, and tutorials in the last gen of games. If I have 1hr a week to play games, I don't want to spend 45 mins of that hour watching status bars. I want to push the on button, and blow stuff up.

PS pros:

- I have been a big PS fan (although I chose an 360 over PS3) and love heritage PS games (Tekken, Ridge Racer, etc)
- PS will probably have the best exclusives for the next year (until exclusivity kicks in for the studios MS bought)
- The force feedback controller sounds really, really cool
- Will probably have better support from Japanese developers (my preference is for Japanese arcade style games)

Xbox pros:
- Its much, much better looking. I'm 39 and I've spent a lot of money making my living room look nice. The PS5 looks like an ugly gaming PC.
- "Netflix for games" probably fits my schedule better...and I hope it leads to shorter, more risk-taking games vs 50 hour walking sims.
- Batcompat is actually a thing for me, there are a ton of games from prior gens I missed and would like to try (especially if they are free)
- You get the feeling MS are trying harder this gen, as they are underdogs.

Then again, launch window availability may determine what I CAN buy vs what I might like...

Take a look at the Gamepass games that are available and see what ones actually interest you - I did this the other day and I counted 2, yes 2, games that I was interested in playing.

There's multiple games in the PS+ collection that I'm looking forward to. Gamepass is great, so long as you want to play the games that are included...

Out of interest what are the 2 games that you were interested in ?

[Tall_Paul]

Narcisus said:

Tall_Paul said:

Wadeski said:

I'm really torn as to which system to pick up. Whereas usually its a pretty easy pick between consoles (which one has the games you like? which one is more powerful?), this generation, the hardware spec is nigh on identical, but the experience the two companies are promising is radically different. Sony is for continuation of console norms, MS is basically moving to a Netflix model.

I didn't buy an XBONE or PS4 because I'm busy and I hated slow installs, patches, boot ups, and tutorials in the last gen of games. If I have 1hr a week to play games, I don't want to spend 45 mins of that hour watching status bars. I want to push the on button, and blow stuff up.

PS pros:

- I have been a big PS fan (although I chose an 360 over PS3) and love heritage PS games (Tekken, Ridge Racer, etc)
- PS will probably have the best exclusives for the next year (until exclusivity kicks in for the studios MS bought)
- The force feedback controller sounds really, really cool
- Will probably have better support from Japanese developers (my preference is for Japanese arcade style games)

Xbox pros:
- Its much, much better looking. I'm 39 and I've spent a lot of money making my living room look nice. The PS5 looks like an ugly gaming PC.
- "Netflix for games" probably fits my schedule better...and I hope it leads to shorter, more risk-taking games vs 50 hour walking sims.
- Batcompat is actually a thing for me, there are a ton of games from prior gens I missed and would like to try (especially if they are free)
- You get the feeling MS are trying harder this gen, as they are underdogs.

Then again, launch window availability may determine what I CAN buy vs what I might like...

Take a look at the Gamepass games that are available and see what ones actually interest you - I did this the other day and I counted 2, yes 2, games that I was interested in playing.

There's multiple games in the PS+ collection that I'm looking forward to. Gamepass is great, so long as you want to play the games that are included...

Out of interest what are the 2 games that you were interested in ?

Apologies, I've had another look and there's actually 4 - Batman Arkham Knight, Forza 7, Doom Eternal and No Mans Sky. That's out of 261 games under the console tab, mind you.

If you're into your indie games them gamepass is probably heaven, though.

[Wadeski]

If they are genuinely all free..then quite a lot of them. Most the big games from the last gen are there. Surprised how much Namco / Sega stuff is there too. Wasn't expecting to see Ace Combat, I thought that was PS only.

Will indie stuff like Streets of Rage 4 be on PS5 or did the draw a hard line under the generation?

[Narcisus]

Tall_Paul said:

Narcisus said:

Tall_Paul said:

Wadeski said:

I'm really torn as to which system to pick up. Whereas usually its a pretty easy pick between consoles (which one has the games you like? which one is more powerful?), this generation, the hardware spec is nigh on identical, but the experience the two companies are promising is radically different. Sony is for continuation of console norms, MS is basically moving to a Netflix model.

I didn't buy an XBONE or PS4 because I'm busy and I hated slow installs, patches, boot ups, and tutorials in the last gen of games. If I have 1hr a week to play games, I don't want to spend 45 mins of that hour watching status bars. I want to push the on button, and blow stuff up.

PS pros:

- I have been a big PS fan (although I chose an 360 over PS3) and love heritage PS games (Tekken, Ridge Racer, etc)
- PS will probably have the best exclusives for the next year (until exclusivity kicks in for the studios MS bought)
- The force feedback controller sounds really, really cool
- Will probably have better support from Japanese developers (my preference is for Japanese arcade style games)

Xbox pros:
- Its much, much better looking. I'm 39 and I've spent a lot of money making my living room look nice. The PS5 looks like an ugly gaming PC.
- "Netflix for games" probably fits my schedule better...and I hope it leads to shorter, more risk-taking games vs 50 hour walking sims.
- Batcompat is actually a thing for me, there are a ton of games from prior gens I missed and would like to try (especially if they are free)
- You get the feeling MS are trying harder this gen, as they are underdogs.

Then again, launch window availability may determine what I CAN buy vs what I might like...

Take a look at the Gamepass games that are available and see what ones actually interest you - I did this the other day and I counted 2, yes 2, games that I was interested in playing.

There's multiple games in the PS+ collection that I'm looking forward to. Gamepass is great, so long as you want to play the games that are included...

Out of interest what are the 2 games that you were interested in ?

Apologies, I've had another look and there's actually 4 - Batman Arkham Knight, Forza 7, Doom Eternal and No Mans Sky. That's out of 261 games under the console tab, mind you.

If you're into your indie games them gamepass is probably heaven, though.

I currently have :

Grim Fandango Remastered
Full Throttle Remastered
Day of the Tentacle Remastered
The Touryst
Age Of Empires III
Forza 7
The Outer Worlds
The Dark Crystal
No Man's Sky
F1 2019
Forza Horizon 3
Subnautica
Observation
Endless Legend
Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice
Astroneer
Machinarium
Halo : MasterChief Collection
Mudrunner
Age Of Wonders
Gears Tactics
The Bards Tale Trilogy
Surviving Mars
Alien Isolation

This is on PC Xbox arrives tomorrow ... Mind you Origin games to be added soon as well

[Lucas Ayde]

Crafty_ said:

So while they were making this "brute force solution" with "minimum fancy engineering" they just threw in the liquid metal for fun then ?

Are you hoping that MS revise their design too, given it runs hotter than the PS5 according to digital foundry.

Duh. Heat coming off/out of the console is a GOOD thing, it's what is supposed to happen.
8x Zen2 CPU cores plus 12 TFLOPS (well, only about 10 in the case of PS5) of RDNA2 GPU power is going to make a lot of heat.

The goal is to evacuate the heat from the APU and make sure that the console doesn't crash/shut down due to overheating. Preferably this should be done quietly.

Both the XBox and PS5 do this. But the Xbox does it without being a massive eyesore.

[DanL]

Lucas Ayde said:

Both the XBox and PS5 do this. But the Xbox does it without being a massive eyesore.

I rather like the appearance of the PS5... It’s interesting and modern. The XBox is a black monolith - it’s not offensive, but neither is it particularly interesting.

Still, each to their own. I’ll probably go for the sleeker looking digital edition.

[Crafty_]

The PS5 looks fine, but in any case who the hell sits and stares at a games console ? Those with no next gen games to play I guess... ?

Your assertion that Sony have just slapped together a design using "brute force" is way off the mark, but fanboys are gonna fanboy.

And, no, I don't have a gaming PC or either console on pre-order.

[Lucas Ayde]

Crafty_ said:

The PS5 looks fine, but in any case who the hell sits and stares at a games console ? Those with no next gen games to play I guess... ?

Your assertion that Sony have just slapped together a design using "brute force" is way off the mark, but fanboys are gonna fanboy.

And, no, I don't have a gaming PC or either console on pre-order.

Fanboy of what? I currently have a PS4 Pro (and regularly use my two PS3s and PS Vita) and so a PS5 would be the natural upgrade path. So I guess that makes me a Sony Fanboy?

Microsoft just plain did a better job of engineering the Series X - it's more powerful and they've managed to cool it silently without having to resort to huge cases. The form factor is actually pretty inoffensive too and easily hidden if that's what you want, unlike the PS5 which is a marmite design and an absolute paving slab of a size. Their software features and display device support is also much better, though Sony will likely catch up on that eventually.

Here's my prediction - the PS5 will be in a different form factor by next Christmas. Sony are pretty quick to revise and update their console designs (there were many, many revisions between my OG PS3 and 'Super Slim' PS3).

[Steven_RW]

Lucas Ayde said:

Crafty_ said:

So while they were making this "brute force solution" with "minimum fancy engineering" they just threw in the liquid metal for fun then ?

Are you hoping that MS revise their design too, given it runs hotter than the PS5 according to digital foundry.

The goal is to evacuate the heat from the APU and make sure that the console doesn't crash/shut down due to overheating. Preferably this should be done quietly.

Both the XBox and PS5 do this. But the Xbox does it without being a massive eyesore.

The goal is to run the gpu/cpu as cool as possible to maintain peak boost clocks. The aim is to do that without an extreme amount of noise. The measure of a successful cooling solution is more than just "does it crash or shut down". You tend to run as cool as possible with watercooling or a very big efficient air cooler and good high quality fans.

The PS4 was more powerful than the xbone and it didn't really matter as you could have a good gaming experience on either. Same with these two and the unique look of the PS5 is bold and interesting, or ugly and over sized depending on your opinion. The huge cooling solution works for me on the Ps5 as I don't mind the look and my consoles are hidden behind an array of gaming monitors anyway. I'll probably end up with both at some point as I have nothing against either.

RW

[anonymous-user]

Don't want to get involved in the console wars but don't know if you guys will have seen

Amazon have fked up Series X deliveries so worth keeping an eye if you have ordered PS5 through them

[Kneedragger95]

anonymous said:

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Yep, I've seen a few reports of this as well.

It's a bit of a joke that Amazon have left it until the last minute to tell people they don't have enough consoles/couriers/staff/whatever to fulfill preorders.

I have my PS5 pre-ordered through Amazon and the order tracking has said "arriving 19th Nov" since the order was placed. I have booked the 19th off work so I'll be pissed if they delay my order at the last minute.

[usn90]

Wish I paid for mine now at game, will be there collecting my lads on the 19th, leaving behind mine until they reopen

[Wadeski]

BAH, tried in all four restock windows today to buy a PS5 today on Walmart.com, each time I got to final checkout screen it would go out of stock.

Annoying that they aren't doing any physical distribution, at least with a store you have a chance to beat the bots and scalpers.

[Jinx]

So I have a shiny new PS5 controller but the console doesn't arrive until next week (ordered a second one when I ordered the PS5).

[northwest monkey]

Jinx said:

So I have a shiny new PS5 controller but the console doesn't arrive until next week (ordered a second one when I ordered the PS5).

Same here

But not the charge cradle for some reason!

It's for our son (I've not finished with PS4 yet) but we still can't decide on what game to get or whether to just get him a £50 PS Store voucher.

He doesn't like Spiderman as a character so wouldn't like the game but not sure what else there is. Any suggestions for a 13-year old?

[Jinx]

northwest monkey said:

Same here

But not the charge cradle for some reason!

It's for our son (I've not finished with PS4 yet) but we still can't decide on what game to get or whether to just get him a £50 PS Store voucher.

He doesn't like Spiderman as a character so wouldn't like the game but not sure what else there is. Any suggestions for a 13-year old?

Astro's playroom will provide some amusement on day one - and playstation plus members will have a selection of ps4 games to try - addition info here: https://www.ign.com/wikis/playstation-5/List_of_Pl...

[Uhtred]

Someone correct me if I am wrong but there doesn't seem to be too many advantages to buying the disk version over the digital version as most modern games are stored entirely on the console anyway?

Only really useful if you know someone else that is willing to share disk games with you.

Also, is crossplay between this gen of consoles likely on most games?

I much prefer the PS5 and always have but most of my mates play on Xbox.