Google Stadia instead of next gen console??

[Stevil]

LimJim said:

I'm guessing you can't access game subscription services such as xbox live on stadia? I much prefer the Microsoft free game list.

Anybody know about xCloud? Is it out now? Last time I had Xbox live it wasn't available.

No you can't and yes the streaming service for Xbox via Xbox GamePass Ultimate is out now.

[hyphen]

AJB88 said:

I'm running on Vodafone 200 no issues.

I am gobsmacked. It works on a 200Mbps line...

[gangzoom]

Drink, fire, Cyberpunk 2077, hope everyone have a great Christmas and look forwards to 2021 been better than 2020

[Doofus]

gangzoom said:

Drink, fire, Cyberpunk 2077, hope everyone have a great Christmas and look forwards to 2021 been better than 2020

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Maybe next year, you could buy a table and a chair.

[gangzoom]

Doofus said:

Maybe next year, you could buy a table and a chair.

Maybe with the money saved by not having to buy a new laptop/games console I will be able to afford a table and chair .

[Jinx]

gangzoom said:

Drink, fire, Cyberpunk 2077, hope everyone have a great Christmas and look forwards to 2021 been better than 2020

Nice - Merry Christmas all - been playing the Xmas round of Killing floor 2 for some seasonal fun.

[RoadRailer]

Got the free stadia premier deal as a long time YouTube premium subscriber and have been hammering Destiny 2 since it landed.

One bonus was taking the chromecast ultra and controller with us to the brother in laws for Xmas and being able to be socially distant whenever possible

[gangzoom]

Having tried Stadia on various devices phones, laptop, TV, and ChromeCast Ultra I always got the impression for whatever reason the games streamed via ChromeCast just looked 'better' on the TV than any other device, however the ChromeCast played badly with my TalkTalk Router and only worked well with ethernet. Today I managed to setup a cheapo Mesh WiFi setup for the house and the data stream does suggest the the ChromeCast pulls far more data than my laptop when streaming at the same 1080p resolution for the same game (F1 2020).

With the ChromeCast ultra running on the mesh network, it was consistently over 35Mbps pulled with occasions hitting nearly 50Mbps.



With my laptop peak was under 30Mbps, with average figures of around 20-25Mbps. I than checked the WiFi speed on the laptop to make sure that wasn't a bottleneck, and it wasn't, with speeds of over 60Mbps on my mesh setup.

So Google may say Stadia works at 10Mbps, but if even if you don't want 4K/5.1 surround sound, with a Chromecast you need well over 30Mbps to have an enjoyable experience, which might explain why Stadia doesn't work well for some people. And Stadia work very well with a mesh Wifi seup, even a cheapo one (£110 for 3 nodes) .

[Stevil]

Hmm https://www.eurogamer.net/amp/2021-02-01-google-sh...

[Doofus]

Stevil said:

Hmm https://www.eurogamer.net/amp/2021-02-01-google-sh...

They're not going to publish their own games on the platform. The platform remains unaffected.

[Mastodon2]

If the platform was a success, you'd think Google would be lining up their own devs ready to rake in the big bucks, except they're not.

[AJB88]

I think they would be better just focusing on the platform and leaving the games to game makers. I've got F1 2020 and Cyberpunk on Stadia, also playing F1 2019 and AC Valhalla on Xbox. Kinda wish I had got AC Valhalla on Stadia now as well.

[Stevil]

Doofus said:

Stevil said:

Hmm https://www.eurogamer.net/amp/2021-02-01-google-sh...

They're not going to publish their own games on the platform. The platform remains unaffected.

Yes, it's not a strong show of confidence though is it, either the games they had in the pipeline were not shaping up or they are shifting their plans quite considerably and trying to push other devs to utilise the tech. Either way it seems their plans are beginning to come unstuck here and I'd say it's the first significant sign of a collapse of the service.

[Doofus]

Mastodon2 said:

If the platform was a success, you'd think Google would be lining up their own devs ready to rake in the big bucks, except they're not.

That's just what they did, but you can't create an AAA title overnight, and for whatever reason, they aren't prepared to wait any longer.

[Harrison Bergeron]

Stevil said:

Doofus said:

Stevil said:

Hmm https://www.eurogamer.net/amp/2021-02-01-google-sh...

They're not going to publish their own games on the platform. The platform remains unaffected.

Yes, it's not a strong show of confidence though is it, either the games they had in the pipeline were not shaping up or they are shifting their plans quite considerably and trying to push other devs to utilise the tech. Either way it seems their plans are beginning to come unstuck here and I'd say it's the first significant sign of a collapse of the service.

It’s like Microsoft stopping development on anything for the Xbox. Whereas they’ve just bought Bethesda.

[hyphen]

Stevil said:

Hmm https://www.eurogamer.net/amp/2021-02-01-google-sh...

Dear or dear.

Having exclusive AAA titles is key to getting the heavy gamers over, as they are quite happy buying consoles and pcs.

Without, they are targeting gangzoom like people, who own old laptops.

There is a reason why Netflix is spending Billions on original content.

Google accountants are in charge, and not convinced by the Stadia business plan. The article quotes google saying it wants to resell the platform to other video game companies who may want to gave a streaming services., which is a surprise.

Unless they pay companies for exclusive titles, looks like game over.

Edited by hyphen on Tuesday 2nd February 09:10

[Doofus]

hyphen said:

The article quotes google saying it wants to resell the platform to other video game companies who may want to gave a streaming services., which is a surprise.

Unless they pay companies for exclusive titles, looks like game over.

That isn't quite what it says, but they have proven, leading edge streaming tech,and they need take up. They don't need exclusive titles, but they do need a sizeable user population.

"Looks like game over" sounds like premature gloating to me.

[hyphen]

Doofus said:

That isn't quite what it says, but they have proven, leading edge streaming tech,and they need take up. They don't need exclusive titles, but they do need a sizeable user population.

"Looks like game over" sounds like premature gloating to me.

Google primary money maker is advertisement. Selling stadia cheap meant that somewhere along the line, they would serve ads somehow.

Reselling the platform indicates plan b, make revenue from Google Cloud services.

As article says, the head of stadia that they poached from EA has quit.

You have to throw serious money at it, to take on Microsoft and Sony's platforms. Google never commit if things don't go well immediately.

https://killedbygoogle.com/

Edited by hyphen on Tuesday 2nd February 09:31

[gangzoom]

hyphen said:

Without, they are targeting gangzoom like people, who own old laptops. ....

.......Google accountants are in charge, and not convinced by the Stadia business plan.

And getting £££ out of me is like getting blood out of a stone .

I'm still really enjoying Stadia, finally managed to complete 1 season of F1 2020, and about done with FarCry 5 which I picked up for £1.50.

If Stadia does stop I will have got more than my share of gaming time - Still got Assassin's Creed to start which I got for £15 and Cyberpunk to complete.

The technology is amazing, it runs beautifully with no hardware on the user end, but the backend hardware costs to Google must be massive. Cannot see my self getting another console, but apparently XboX live runs on my smart phone? Haven't tried it yet though as 4K OLED panel running games looks too lovely

Edited by gangzoom on Tuesday 2nd February 11:21

[hyphen]

Google have announced huge losses in their Cloud division, which explains the decision regarding Stadia direction



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-02...