Google Stadia instead of next gen console??

Google Stadia instead of next gen console??

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the-norseman

12,444 posts

171 months

Saturday 19th November 2022
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My refunds have just gone through now but on my old credit card.. will they reject the payment?

bigandclever

13,792 posts

238 months

Saturday 19th November 2022
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the-norseman said:
My refunds have just gone through now but on my old credit card.. will they reject the payment?
https://9to5google.com/2022/11/17/google-fix-declined-stadia-refund/

untakenname

4,970 posts

192 months

Saturday 19th November 2022
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I've had refunds for Assassins Creed (£59) and Cyberpunk (£50) so far but am still awaiting a few of the cheaper games I bought plus the actual Stadia itself which was £120.

I hope Google (or another entity) release a firmware update for the pad so it will work on PC as it was well made and would be a shame to throw away.

the-norseman

12,444 posts

171 months

Saturday 19th November 2022
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bigandclever said:
I'll wait for the email then.

gangzoom

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6,303 posts

215 months

Saturday 19th November 2022
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ch37 said:
Steam Deck! Been a life changer for me.
From what I understand its still essentially a PC setup? Installing and configuring games still is a faff compared to what Stadia/GFN offers.

I've got coming up to 20 games 'installed' in my GFN account, and as it happens GFN runs really well on my Fold 4, so at kids bed time I can marvel at the wonders of technology that let's me admire Agent 47s bald head in the reflection of a shop window thanks Raytracing technology......





....but ofcourse the 'proper' usage is essentially getting a console experience on the main TV on the rare few days when I get time free in the evening and not having to work. No messing around with installs/configs, just play what games I like, on pretty much any device at home, all with cross saving.

Stadia maybe dead, but streaming technology is 100% here to stay. Its simply so much easier to get gaming vs having to maintain/setup local hardware.


gangzoom

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6,303 posts

215 months

Saturday 19th November 2022
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Still struggling to tell what the 'fuss' about RTX is about.

Can anyone really notice the graphics difference between Stadia with no RTX vs GeForce Now which seems to sell it self on having RTX? If this is the biggest 'leap' in game graphics in the last few years, who really cares?




gangzoom

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6,303 posts

215 months

Saturday 19th November 2022
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untakenname said:
I hope Google (or another entity) release a firmware update for the pad so it will work on PC as it was well made and would be a shame to throw away.
I doubt Google Will throw more money at it, but the controller works like another controller via wired USB connection. It works fine with GeForce Now on my Fold 4, MacBook Pro, and works HP Elitebook.

the-norseman

12,444 posts

171 months

Saturday 19th November 2022
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Just been looking at Steam deck, I'm an Arch Linux user (Manjaro).

I might be able to justify buying the device as a "desktop" device which allows gaming on it, and using it as a desktop on the dock.

Rod200SX

8,087 posts

176 months

Saturday 19th November 2022
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Hard to see much difference in those pictures as they're fairly lo-res. Personally I love most implementations of ray tracing but I'm playing on a fairly chunky PC, I definitely notice a difference with it on/off.

Wouldn't bother with it on a streaming one for now. I've tried a couple streaming options on PC, phone (S21 Ultra), xbox one and PS5 and always find it to be lacking in quality, decent interenet connection too.

Xaero

4,060 posts

215 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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My 3 stadia purchases were refunded today.

Unfortunately 2 of them (cyberpunk and RE: Village) which both came with controllers, I paid via google play credit. So I now have £115 in Google play credit. A bit annoying as I was hoping that money could go towards a new way of gaming. It's going to take me years to spend £115 on Google play. I tried to see if I could buy a gift card or a game on steam using it, but it wasn't possible.

My third purchase was refunded to a credit card that changed providers and I haven't applied for credit from the new provider, so just have a last statement to pay. Not sure how that is going to turn out.

ch37

10,642 posts

221 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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gangzoom said:
From what I understand its still essentially a PC setup? Installing and configuring games still is a faff compared to what Stadia/GFN offers.
Yes, it was a suggestion for someone who was essentially looking to game anywhere.

All 'verified' games (which the Steam store automatically shows you on the Deck itself, there are now thousands) install and work 'out of the box', controller profile, graphics settings etc.

With the Dock it's essentially like the Switch in that you can move between handheld and telly, and if you tap the sleep button it'll just suspend what you're doing (for days, if needed), tap it again and you're right back where you were.

Obviously installs aren't instant like Stadia, but once you're past that it's, by far, the most convenient and flexible way to PC game without needing to go and sit at the computer or hope to get a turn on the telly!

gangzoom

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6,303 posts

215 months

Sunday 20th November 2022
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Rod200SX said:
Hard to see much difference in those pictures as they're fairly lo-res. Personally I love most implementations of ray tracing but I'm playing on a fairly chunky PC, I definitely notice a difference with it on/off.








These are the setting for GFN. Stadia has no settings as such.





Not sure I which version I prefer the look of, the GFN looks more 'real' but Stadia hardly looks 'bad'. Unless the a PC running the same settings a GFN gives totally different results, RTX is wasted on some like me. But its all irrelevant as Stadia is dead frown. Still both looks as good as any console on the OLED panel.



gangzoom

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6,303 posts

215 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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All my refunds are in, over 2 years spent £247.74 on Stadia stuff, that's 12 games in total, and hundreds of hours in gaming time.

Even without the £247.74 refund its amazing value. GFN has already cost me £40 for 6 months in subscription. However the games sections is bigger and CDkeys etc cheaper, £81.88 spent on 8 games including replicating some games I had Stadia - Cyberpunk + Hitman.

I suppose in the grand schemes of things like a phone that has a RRP of £1600, even GFN with its subscription costs isn't much to pay for the entertainment value provided. Not renewing Disney+ which hasn't been logged into for 6 months+ now will nearly cover the GFN subscription.

Versus a dedicated gaming rig that only allows you to play games on one machine, the cost of GFN is still very modest, plus the ability to run the entire library of games on any device I own at home, and even on the move via 5G - though it burns through the mobile data plan.

RIP Stadia, and thanks for keeping my 2013 MBP relevant for gaming........Who would have thought in 2013 10 years later an Apple laptop with a NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M GPU can still run AAA games. Shame Google couldn't make Stadia financially sustainable but the technology lives on smile

noopets

546 posts

56 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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Got my refunds yesterday, only spent £65 but can’t fault them for giving it us back!

Captain Answer

1,352 posts

187 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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Refund came in yesterday, £90 which was a bit higher than I expected - pushed it to one side for now to get the steam deck

Zoon

6,706 posts

121 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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gangzoom said:
From what I understand its still essentially a PC setup?
Nothing like a traditional PC really. Think of it as a portable XBOX or Playstation
Installs are one click from Steam and everything is really simple.
Using Epic games can be a little more challenging but easy enough with heroic.

the-norseman

12,444 posts

171 months

Wednesday 30th November 2022
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Had a power cut during lap 13 of 14 on F1 2020 tonight. When I finally loaded it all back up I was in the barrier, but a flashback enabled me to carry on!

Going to miss stuff like this.

bigandclever

13,792 posts

238 months

Tuesday 6th December 2022
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Got my founder's edition refund today. Was fun while it lasted smile

Even though it was never going to last

eltawater

3,114 posts

179 months

Tuesday 6th December 2022
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eltawater said:
It would be a massive PR own goal from Google if they didn't allow the Stadia controller to be used on other devices.
The electronic waste mountain they'd be responsible for would be daft and mostly it'll only be a matter of time before someone in the community cracks it open anyway....

My Stadia Premiere edition is still sat in a sealed box after the bargain order price of 19.99 last December.
I've received notification of my premiere edition refund. Nice little bit of cashback for christmas and the controller is still sealed in a box on the shelf...

Cloudy147

2,722 posts

183 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
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Got my refunds as well. I purchased mainly to play assassins creed as I really liked the look of that game. For the £20 controller and £3 for the game it was a great buy. I didn’t get chance to play often but it always worked well for me when I did. A very simple way to play high def games on a lower end machine.

Good fun! Impressed that Google refunded everything too.