Google Stadia instead of next gen console??

[gangzoom]

Like the jewel in the crown, just doing some email catch up this morning with the work laptop at home, bare in mind I cannot even install WinZip normally without going to IT and begging for admin access.......Do pigs fly?? Well apparently they now do!! - Even the Xbox controller works!! So whats the point of having multiple device when my work laptop will do it all, work and play.

It's 100% Game Set Match to Stadia for me

Edited by gangzoom on Saturday 4th July 12:47

[TheDrBrian]

Given that you don’t seem too disconcerting with tech allow me to explain it to you another way

gangzoom said:

So whats the point of having multiple horsepower when my Nissan Micra will do it all, work and play.

[Oakey]

You've got to laugh at the logic of complaining about having to download game updates and then using over 40Gb in one day streaming games

[gangzoom]

Oakey said:

You've got to laugh at the logic of complaining about having to download game updates and then using over 40Gb in one day streaming games

Not complaining at all, just noticing the data usage. I pay for the unlimited service anyways so good to put it to the test.

[gangzoom]

TheDrBrian said:

Given that you don’t seem too disconcerting with tech allow me to explain it to you another way

gangzoom said:

So whats the point of having multiple horsepower when my Nissan Micra will do it all, work and play.

But a Nissan Micra woudlnt do 0-60 in 5 seconds without spending ££££.

Been able to run Destiny 2 and Grid on my 2013 home laptop or an IT managed work latop thats locked down like fort Knox (I cannot even use unauthorised unencrypted USB drives) is pretty cool.

My 2013 laptop actually run all my work computing needs fines, apart from new games. With Stadia now letting me play the latest games on it why would I bother upgrading the hardware/laptop?

Google have a winner here.

[TheDrBrian]

gangzoom said:

TheDrBrian said:

Given that you don’t seem too disconcerting with tech allow me to explain it to you another way

gangzoom said:

So whats the point of having multiple horsepower when my Nissan Micra will do it all, work and play.

But a Nissan Micra woudlnt do 0-60 in 5 seconds without spending ££££.

Been able to run Destiny 2 and Grid on my 2013 home laptop or an IT managed work latop thats locked down like fort Knox (I cannot even use unauthorised unencrypted USB drives) is pretty cool.

My 2013 laptop actually run all my work computing needs fines, apart from new games. With Stadia now letting me play the latest games on it why would I bother upgrading the hardware/laptop?

Google have a winner here.

But you’re not doing 60 in 5 seconds. You’re doing it in 15 just the speedo has been upscaled and there’s 3 seconds between you flooring it and the car responding.

Edit: mixed up game and car.

[gangzoom]

TheDrBrian said:

But you’re not doing 60 in 5 seconds. You’re doing it in 15 just the speedo has been upscaled and there’s 3 seconds between you flooring it and the game responding.

3 seconds lag, you must be joking right??

Remeber the days of dial up, UT/Quake/QS, anything under 100ms lag was seen as instant. I was still able to snipe by people half way across the map with ping times of approaching 150ms.

I get the hardware stuff, but why do you need it if Google can do it for you and stream to what ever device you have??

Am actually surprised games still have a 'load' time on Stadia, not long but 5 seconds. Am sure Google will get rid of that some point.

There is lag but no where enough for me to offset the advantages (and cheapness) Stadia brings.

I wonder what the Xbox streaming service will look like, but this is the future of gaming.

Edited by gangzoom on Saturday 4th July 13:52

[Oakey]

Because you're still playing it on your 13" laptop?

I didn't spend a load of money on a 4k TV and fancy surround sound system to feed it garbage input.

[vonuber]

gangzoom said:

Like the jewel in the crown, just doing some email catch up this morning with the work laptop at home, bare in mind I cannot even install WinZip normally without going to IT and begging for admin access.......Do pigs fly?? Well apparently they now do!! - Even the Xbox controller works!! So whats the point of having multiple device when my work laptop will do it all, work and play.

It's 100% Game Set Match to Stadia for me

Er.. My PC does all that too, and i don't need to pay a subscription service.

[DanL]

It’s weird to me that this has caused some sort of argument.

OP, glad it works for you. I’ve not tried it, and have no interest, but I’m not about to argue against your experience...

[Mastodon2]

Casual gamers gonna casual I suppose. I'm sure Google have a monster hit on their hands with Stadia. The usage figures will show it's a roaring success. Oh, wait...

As I say, if the lag doesn't affect your quality of experience, then that is great.

[gangzoom]

vonuber said:

Er.. My PC does all that too, and i don't need to pay a subscription service.

If you lent me your PC that would be much appreciated

I don't think we've spend a single £ on laptops since 2010, all our laptops are work machines supplied by work. The thought of spending even £500 on the next Xbox/PS5 seem too much to spend on games for me!

For me Stadia needs to stay at the current price to keep me interested - sub £10/month with regular 'free' games bundled in. If Google can make money from that kind of model is a different matter, Spotify still seems to be going despite me having a free account from the start.

[Doofus]

DanL said:

It’s weird to me that this has caused some sort of argument.

OP, glad it works for you. I’ve not tried it, and have no interest, but I’m not about to argue against your experience...

Agreed. Some will love it, some won't. Google (and MS and Amazon and and and) are expecting to generate huge audiences, but they're not expecting to convert everybody.

I don't stream music and don't really stream games either (although I expect that to change very soon), but I believe in the concept what it can do and what it can be.

[gangzoom]

Doofus said:

I don't stream music.

That's pretty impressive in this day and age, I gave up trying to maintain my iTunes library around 2010, about the time I got an iPhone and realised there was no way it could hold my entire music collection. I did spend some time trying to setup a home back up system for my music but than gave up.

About 3 years ago I've also given up locally backing up my digital photos, I think my last back on the NAS setup was around 2018. Its now all on the 'cloud', I have to say the recent take over of Flickr did give me someworries about all of sudden having to manually download 300gig+ of photos.

The total reliance of broadband is a potential flaw in all of this though, our hardwire connection went down on Christmas Eve, you can imagine the situation in a house filled with extended family and not even a TV aerial!! - Luckily it was sorted quickly.

I bury my head in the sand on this issue though, and try not to think what life would be like without good internet access. Gaming though for me just another move inthis direction, I could even see a situation when things like Photoshop can be 'streamed', I was mocking the initial Google Chrome books as been underpowered toys, but actually Google may have it right in the longrun

Edited by gangzoom on Saturday 4th July 14:30

[Oakey]

Photoshop already has a subscription service

[TheDrBrian]

gangzoom said:

TheDrBrian said:

But you’re not doing 60 in 5 seconds. You’re doing it in 15 just the speedo has been upscaled and there’s 3 seconds between you flooring it and the game responding.

3 seconds lag, you must be joking right??

I was putting it in terms of cars. 200-250ms of input lag is awful. It's like driving a car from the backseat.

Of a different car.

[gangzoom]

TheDrBrian said:

I was putting it in terms of cars. 200-250ms of input lag is awful. It's like driving a car from the backseat.

Of a different car.

Its not 200ms, must be below 100ms, that's in Destiny 2, multiple player.

https://youtu.be/Cs7hQe--wm0

https://youtu.be/O1gbOEtGSNs

Edited by gangzoom on Monday 6th July 18:27

[Jim on the hill]

The idea of playing huge gaming releases on a laptop rather than a 4k TV seems pointless to me. Much rather pay for a little box to go under the TV that's waiting for if I want to game.

Each to their own and glad OP likes it but it's certainly not the future of gaming.

[Doofus]

Jim on the hill said:

The idea of playing huge gaming releases on a laptop rather than a 4k TV seems pointless to me. Much rather pay for a little box to go under the TV that's waiting for if I want to game.

Each to their own and glad OP likes it but it's certainly not the future of gaming.

You can play on a huge telly. That's part of the point; it's multi-device. You can play on your tv, and switch to a desktop, laptop, tablet or even your phone as it suits. Take all your games with you wherever you go. All you need is a Chrome browser (or a Chromecast) and a controller, which can be a keyboard or a game controller.

[Jim on the hill]

Doofus said:

Jim on the hill said:

The idea of playing huge gaming releases on a laptop rather than a 4k TV seems pointless to me. Much rather pay for a little box to go under the TV that's waiting for if I want to game.

Each to their own and glad OP likes it but it's certainly not the future of gaming.

You can play on a huge telly. That's part of the point; it's multi-device. You can play on your tv, and switch to a desktop, laptop, tablet or even your phone as it suits. Take all your games with you wherever you go. All you need is a Chrome browser (or a Chromecast) and a controller, which can be a keyboard or a game controller.

That sounds a bit better then, I remember looking into it last year with all the hype but no 4K support.