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Narcisus

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8,074 posts

280 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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I've had a couple of TrackIR's over the years but always sold them on after a while. During lockdown i've been playing DCS more and purchased a Warthog HOTAS which I thought would be complemented by head tracking.

I do have a Rift S which is superb in DCS but I find it tiring after a couple of hours so decided to check out TrackIR again... Well it's certainty gone up in price ( last one cost me £120 ) and at the moment cant be had anywhere so I've decided to go with a DELANCLiP Gamer which will set me back about £70 compared to around £175 for TrackIR.

https://delanengineering.com/products/head-trackin...

I'll post a review when it arrives !

SuffolkDefender

160 posts

96 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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nothing beats VR for DCS in my opinion, complete lack of immersion if you're using anything else. I know the resolution isn't as good but I just don't think it can be beat. I just upgraded from a Rift S to a Reverb G2 and it's made a huge difference in clarity and colour/washout.


Narcisus

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8,074 posts

280 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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SuffolkDefender said:
nothing beats VR for DCS in my opinion, complete lack of immersion if you're using anything else. I know the resolution isn't as good but I just don't think it can be beat. I just upgraded from a Rift S to a Reverb G2 and it's made a huge difference in clarity and colour/washout.
I agree but I don't have £500 + spare for a G2 :-) I'm happy with a 70 quid head tracking solution when i've had enough time on the Rift.

kowalski655

14,643 posts

143 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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Try the SmoothTrack app for a tenner-uses your phone camera as a head tracker. Pretty good but needs good light,and proper mounting for the camera where it has a good view

Narcisus

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Wednesday 17th February 2021
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kowalski655 said:
Try the SmoothTrack app for a tenner-uses your phone camera as a head tracker. Pretty good but needs good light,and proper mounting for the camera where it has a good view
Purchased the DELANCLiP. Probably not work on my 10 year old phone anyway biggrin

Lim

2,274 posts

42 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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I’m tempted by a g2 but there are rumours of 120hz support coming to quest 2.

kowalski655

14,643 posts

143 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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Narcisus said:
Purchased the DELANCLiP. Probably not work on my 10 year old phone anyway biggrin
A dedicated device will certainly be better

8bit

4,867 posts

155 months

Monday 22nd February 2021
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I had the Delanclip and fairly recently bought a Reverb G2. I'd echo that the full VR system is "better" but not without a couple of caveats. For a start, you can use the zoom function with the Delanclip (or other TrackIR type system) but not wth VR. Second, in VR the head tracking is always 1:1 - turn left 30 degrees, that's where you look. with the TrackIR/Delanclip etc. systems you have motion "curves". This takes some tuning to feel "natural" but the net result is that it's easier to be able to see behind the aircraft or directly above you.

I am really impressed with the G2 but I find the field of view a bit limited and even within that, the image is blurry at the edges so I really have to move my whole head rather than glance down at displays etc. VR systems are still some way off "perfect" and they are still expensive, if I'd been able to try a G2 before purchasing I might have stuck with my Delanclip a bit longer.

Narcisus

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280 months

Monday 22nd February 2021
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8bit said:
I had the Delanclip and fairly recently bought a Reverb G2. I'd echo that the full VR system is "better" but not without a couple of caveats. For a start, you can use the zoom function with the Delanclip (or other TrackIR type system) but not wth VR. Second, in VR the head tracking is always 1:1 - turn left 30 degrees, that's where you look. with the TrackIR/Delanclip etc. systems you have motion "curves". This takes some tuning to feel "natural" but the net result is that it's easier to be able to see behind the aircraft or directly above you.

I am really impressed with the G2 but I find the field of view a bit limited and even within that, the image is blurry at the edges so I really have to move my whole head rather than glance down at displays etc. VR systems are still some way off "perfect" and they are still expensive, if I'd been able to try a G2 before purchasing I might have stuck with my Delanclip a bit longer.
Yeah as I said in my OP I have a Rift S and it's great but sometimes I just don't fancy playing in VR. Was the Delanclip OK I have had a couple of TrackIR 5's in the past. Did you sell your Delan when you purchased the VR headset ?

8bit

4,867 posts

155 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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Narcisus said:
Yeah as I said in my OP I have a Rift S and it's great but sometimes I just don't fancy playing in VR. Was the Delanclip OK I have had a couple of TrackIR 5's in the past. Did you sell your Delan when you purchased the VR headset ?
Somehow I missed that you have a Rift S, that'll teach me to read posts properly smile

I still have the Delanclip, I had a couple of issues with the HP headset so was waiting until I was sure I wasn't going to return it before getting rid of the old system. I'm also keen to get back into Falcon BMS and I gather that doesn't yet support VR so it'll be Delanclip or nothing for now.

As for how well it works, been so long since I used TrackIR (version 2 I think, before 6DoF support) but I found it OK. I got the cabled hardware, the cable was a little bit of a pain but no worse than the VR headset cable. The recommended software (I forget the name, has a pink octopus icon smile) is OK but takes a bit of fiddling with the curves to feel right. I found I'd have to press the recenter button a few times over a couple of hours' session in DCS but that's no hardship really. You can obviously see the keyboard which is helpful if, like me, you can't bind everything you need to your HOTAS in DCS.

Narcisus

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8,074 posts

280 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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Update for anyone interested in Delanclip i've finally had time to sit down and get this up and running. It just feels like TrackIR to me but about 100 quid cheaper.

Yes it's not as as polished but for the price it's great.