Gran Turismo 7
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rampageturke said:
The more I play, the more I get frustrated with the game, and its almost purely that AI (or lack of it)
Glued to a line, when they bunch up into a pack, they can hardly seem to pass each other. The worst thing, by far, and most frustrating, is their talent for being able to hit your back side and spin you into a pit maneuver, every damn time.
Sometimes not the best driving from me, but when you collide with an AI, the weight of their vehicle is off the charts, they can spin you and not be affected in the slightest. But that weight doesnt affect them in any other way such as handling.
This isn't an isolated thing at all. It's just not fun to race against this AI in this rabbit chasing 40+ second lead format.
Bought online access finally, did some daily race B, and yeah this is fun (came second in my first full race
). Humans can be f
king idiots online sometimes, but at least its organic and not artificially harder.
I’m also finding the more I play the less I spend in a session. Before I could do 2-3hrs now I’m struggling to keep entertained after 30minutes. Glued to a line, when they bunch up into a pack, they can hardly seem to pass each other. The worst thing, by far, and most frustrating, is their talent for being able to hit your back side and spin you into a pit maneuver, every damn time.
Sometimes not the best driving from me, but when you collide with an AI, the weight of their vehicle is off the charts, they can spin you and not be affected in the slightest. But that weight doesnt affect them in any other way such as handling.
This isn't an isolated thing at all. It's just not fun to race against this AI in this rabbit chasing 40+ second lead format.
Bought online access finally, did some daily race B, and yeah this is fun (came second in my first full race
). Humans can be fking idiots online sometimes, but at least its organic and not artificially harder.It will get better, I guess the problem is how long before it’s at GTsport levels and as a newer game we’d expect it to exceed that.
Yep, it can be annoying. I have got most annoyed with it when lapping AI cars. Last night I was doing one of the 1hr endurance driving missions (the one with tuned cars of 550pp - use the Radical, you can do the whole race on one tank and with just a quick stop mid way for tyres). Coming round to lap a car, pass him on the run into a turn and he just outbrakes himself and punts me off. I was far enough in the lead that I was able to recover and maintain my lead but still annoying.
Jasandjules said:
MG CHRIS said:
Jasandjules said:
Oh and I had my first taste of an online race today (not sure why there are two different online lobbies mind!).... F**K me, they are able to go faster on the straights and the corners than me... Wondering what the hell is wrong with my set ups to get the PP down the numbers to enter the race..
Are you doing custom lobbies or the daily races guessing you talking about custom races. Unless you doing gr3/4 races I wouldn't join a pp limit lobby massive difference in car set ups. Hence why we decided to go one make racing with our championship.I've been using the Gr.3 Corvette for Le Mans, Racing Hards and a lot of fuel saving generally means I can get away with a late stop (lap 5) which means I can play wait and see with the weather, the AI often have to pit at the end of lap 3 or 4, and then end up coming in again if the rain comes in.
One instance it didn't rain at all, so I managed to one stop it without changing tyres (racing hards) which so far has been the only time I've won
Have come 2nd a few times when it has rained, last race the Gr4 Corvette in front had clearly run out of fuel or tyres as he was crawling along past pit entry and through the final 2 chicanes, I went to fuel map 1 (with 1% fuel left) and overtook him on the run to the line for 2nd place
I have the AI difficulty on hard, so I'm making it unnecessarily difficult for myself I suppose, but it's good fun having to play it strategically. I do a lot of lift and coast before the Mulsanne straight chicanes, Mulsanne corner, and in to Indianapolis, and will try to use the slipstream as much as possible (even letting the AI back past) so I can run fuel map 6 without losing too much straight line speed
Haven't tried Spa yet. I'd love if there was a 30 minute endurance race at Bathurst, I haven't missed one have I?
One instance it didn't rain at all, so I managed to one stop it without changing tyres (racing hards) which so far has been the only time I've won
Have come 2nd a few times when it has rained, last race the Gr4 Corvette in front had clearly run out of fuel or tyres as he was crawling along past pit entry and through the final 2 chicanes, I went to fuel map 1 (with 1% fuel left) and overtook him on the run to the line for 2nd place
I have the AI difficulty on hard, so I'm making it unnecessarily difficult for myself I suppose, but it's good fun having to play it strategically. I do a lot of lift and coast before the Mulsanne straight chicanes, Mulsanne corner, and in to Indianapolis, and will try to use the slipstream as much as possible (even letting the AI back past) so I can run fuel map 6 without losing too much straight line speed
Haven't tried Spa yet. I'd love if there was a 30 minute endurance race at Bathurst, I haven't missed one have I?
SturdyHSV said:
I've been using the Gr.3 Corvette for Le Mans, Racing Hards and a lot of fuel saving generally means I can get away with a late stop (lap 5) which means I can play wait and see with the weather, the AI often have to pit at the end of lap 3 or 4, and then end up coming in again if the rain comes in.
One instance it didn't rain at all, so I managed to one stop it without changing tyres (racing hards) which so far has been the only time I've won
Have come 2nd a few times when it has rained, last race the Gr4 Corvette in front had clearly run out of fuel or tyres as he was crawling along past pit entry and through the final 2 chicanes, I went to fuel map 1 (with 1% fuel left) and overtook him on the run to the line for 2nd place
I have the AI difficulty on hard, so I'm making it unnecessarily difficult for myself I suppose, but it's good fun having to play it strategically. I do a lot of lift and coast before the Mulsanne straight chicanes, Mulsanne corner, and in to Indianapolis, and will try to use the slipstream as much as possible (even letting the AI back past) so I can run fuel map 6 without losing too much straight line speed
Haven't tried Spa yet. I'd love if there was a 30 minute endurance race at Bathurst, I haven't missed one have I?
I've just counted through my garage for cars I'm fairly sure I've done Le Mans in, and it's somewhere like 90 different cars. And some multiple times. So somewhere north of 100 times. One instance it didn't rain at all, so I managed to one stop it without changing tyres (racing hards) which so far has been the only time I've won
Have come 2nd a few times when it has rained, last race the Gr4 Corvette in front had clearly run out of fuel or tyres as he was crawling along past pit entry and through the final 2 chicanes, I went to fuel map 1 (with 1% fuel left) and overtook him on the run to the line for 2nd place
I have the AI difficulty on hard, so I'm making it unnecessarily difficult for myself I suppose, but it's good fun having to play it strategically. I do a lot of lift and coast before the Mulsanne straight chicanes, Mulsanne corner, and in to Indianapolis, and will try to use the slipstream as much as possible (even letting the AI back past) so I can run fuel map 6 without losing too much straight line speed
Haven't tried Spa yet. I'd love if there was a 30 minute endurance race at Bathurst, I haven't missed one have I?
I've been going through my garage and tuning a car to 700pp then taking it round there. Modded cars are great fun, rather than racing cars. You generally have a higher top speed than they do, but not always. Some of them will do more than 190mph on fuel 6. It's also cool finding out what the fuel usage is like.
It never rains until at least the end of the 2nd lap, and will always have stopped raining before the end of the race, and the amount of rain has varied from a few spits to what happened in a race yesterday where it shat it down so the rain gauge was pretty much in the upper section in laps 3-5
Opponents quite often f
k up putting in time for inters or wets then struggle round for a lap. So you can pit in when it's still dry and there's rain coming for inters and get a massive steal on them.If your car can only do three laps max, then you know you can then do (weather permitting) two stints of two laps each with the fuel map down, or say one on six then a hot one on map 1
Put simply, it's hard to not win...I've also got it set on Hard. The only time I can remember not winning was when I gave it a shot in the 250GT, which admittedly was down on pp and was lairy. Just done it again in my lunch break with the Evo. Pitted as I say when the rain was coming, so got an advantage, won by 1 minute 20
Try tuning some of the unused cars in your won list! It's good fun trying them all out, I think anyway. As long as you take all the weight off and gear it longish to help for fuel consumption, you should get a win.
I've not got that many cars left now I haven't tuned, just the dregs I know won't make it to 700pp
Here's a few pics from my many, many goes, including the Evo just now
Been playing a fair bit but still nowhere near the money and race level some of you are! I'm collector level 12, on the BMW M3 menu book and got about 800k in the bank. Luckily a few of my impulse used car purchases have come in very handy for events that have subsequently opened up (Trans Am and Viper for American FR, Impreza 22b for Asia-Pac champiionship), and some unlocks have covered a lot of the others (Renaultsport ASBO Clio for most Sunday cup stuff, 65 Mini Cooper for classics) so I've not had to rinse my budget so badly.
At what point does the menu book prescribed gameplay end and open up all the events for you to do as you please? The linear order is getting very frustrating.
Whats also frustrating is the way most races seem to start at dusk and then go dark by the end, I cant bloody see where I'm going! And on that subject.... does anyone else find the in car view annoyingly narrow? I can barely see over the dashboard and have a severe case of tunnel vision, which respectively make it hard to see apexes on unfamiliar tracks, and hard/impossible to see who's alongside me. On Assetto Corsa I could "sit" much further back from the wheel which gave a real-life field of vision.
My final gripe is that it seems impossible to sell cars to fund other things, which was always the GT way! I dont want a garage 95% full of Honda Fits and Toyota Crown Pace Cars that i'll never drive......
At what point does the menu book prescribed gameplay end and open up all the events for you to do as you please? The linear order is getting very frustrating.
Whats also frustrating is the way most races seem to start at dusk and then go dark by the end, I cant bloody see where I'm going! And on that subject.... does anyone else find the in car view annoyingly narrow? I can barely see over the dashboard and have a severe case of tunnel vision, which respectively make it hard to see apexes on unfamiliar tracks, and hard/impossible to see who's alongside me. On Assetto Corsa I could "sit" much further back from the wheel which gave a real-life field of vision.
My final gripe is that it seems impossible to sell cars to fund other things, which was always the GT way! I dont want a garage 95% full of Honda Fits and Toyota Crown Pace Cars that i'll never drive......
ChemicalChaos said:
Been playing a fair bit but still nowhere near the money and race level some of you are! I'm collector level 12, on the BMW M3 menu book and got about 800k in the bank. Luckily a few of my impulse used car purchases have come in very handy for events that have subsequently opened up (Trans Am and Viper for American FR, Impreza 22b for Asia-Pac champiionship), and some unlocks have covered a lot of the others (Renaultsport ASBO Clio for most Sunday cup stuff, 65 Mini Cooper for classics) so I've not had to rinse my budget so badly.
At what point does the menu book prescribed gameplay end and open up all the events for you to do as you please? The linear order is getting very frustrating.
Whats also frustrating is the way most races seem to start at dusk and then go dark by the end, I cant bloody see where I'm going! And on that subject.... does anyone else find the in car view annoyingly narrow? I can barely see over the dashboard and have a severe case of tunnel vision, which respectively make it hard to see apexes on unfamiliar tracks, and hard/impossible to see who's alongside me. On Assetto Corsa I could "sit" much further back from the wheel which gave a real-life field of vision.
My final gripe is that it seems impossible to sell cars to fund other things, which was always the GT way! I dont want a garage 95% full of Honda Fits and Toyota Crown Pace Cars that i'll never drive......
Selling cars is coming back apparently then I can get rid of the ruf I spent so much money on to realise it’s sAt what point does the menu book prescribed gameplay end and open up all the events for you to do as you please? The linear order is getting very frustrating.
Whats also frustrating is the way most races seem to start at dusk and then go dark by the end, I cant bloody see where I'm going! And on that subject.... does anyone else find the in car view annoyingly narrow? I can barely see over the dashboard and have a severe case of tunnel vision, which respectively make it hard to see apexes on unfamiliar tracks, and hard/impossible to see who's alongside me. On Assetto Corsa I could "sit" much further back from the wheel which gave a real-life field of vision.
My final gripe is that it seems impossible to sell cars to fund other things, which was always the GT way! I dont want a garage 95% full of Honda Fits and Toyota Crown Pace Cars that i'll never drive......
t. You can go into settings and adjust camera position in the car, I always find it puts you very low.
JRFrench said:
I’m sorry but this didn’t sit well with me at all, thankfully the correct order has now been restored
bks It was fun while it lasted! You are so bloody quick it's absurd. On one of the circuit experiences you had over 3 seconds over the person in 2nd on my list. It wasn't even a particularly long lap.ChemicalChaos said:
Been playing a fair bit but still nowhere near the money and race level some of you are! I'm collector level 12, on the BMW M3 menu book and got about 800k in the bank. Luckily a few of my impulse used car purchases have come in very handy for events that have subsequently opened up (Trans Am and Viper for American FR, Impreza 22b for Asia-Pac champiionship), and some unlocks have covered a lot of the others (Renaultsport ASBO Clio for most Sunday cup stuff, 65 Mini Cooper for classics) so I've not had to rinse my budget so badly.
At what point does the menu book prescribed gameplay end and open up all the events for you to do as you please? The linear order is getting very frustrating.
Whats also frustrating is the way most races seem to start at dusk and then go dark by the end, I cant bloody see where I'm going! And on that subject.... does anyone else find the in car view annoyingly narrow? I can barely see over the dashboard and have a severe case of tunnel vision, which respectively make it hard to see apexes on unfamiliar tracks, and hard/impossible to see who's alongside me. On Assetto Corsa I could "sit" much further back from the wheel which gave a real-life field of vision.
My final gripe is that it seems impossible to sell cars to fund other things, which was always the GT way! I dont want a garage 95% full of Honda Fits and Toyota Crown Pace Cars that i'll never drive......
It is liner until all cafe menu races are done then the other single event race unlock. Don't forget missions and circuit experiences boost up money a lot so use them some are really easy. Apparently selling cars is coming not sure when. Dark races you can increase light exposure in settings helps a lot or get the 8k bright headlights from auto store. Gt7 isn't like other GT games where you can pick and choose what championships to do.At what point does the menu book prescribed gameplay end and open up all the events for you to do as you please? The linear order is getting very frustrating.
Whats also frustrating is the way most races seem to start at dusk and then go dark by the end, I cant bloody see where I'm going! And on that subject.... does anyone else find the in car view annoyingly narrow? I can barely see over the dashboard and have a severe case of tunnel vision, which respectively make it hard to see apexes on unfamiliar tracks, and hard/impossible to see who's alongside me. On Assetto Corsa I could "sit" much further back from the wheel which gave a real-life field of vision.
My final gripe is that it seems impossible to sell cars to fund other things, which was always the GT way! I dont want a garage 95% full of Honda Fits and Toyota Crown Pace Cars that i'll never drive......
Norbury90 said:
JRFrench said:
I’m sorry but this didn’t sit well with me at all, thankfully the correct order has now been restored
bks It was fun while it lasted! You are so bloody quick it's absurd. On one of the circuit experiences you had over 3 seconds over the person in 2nd on my list. It wasn't even a particularly long lap.
MG CHRIS said:
So saw a few had gone quicker than me on the ring so goal was to get back to first oh boy did I manage to do that.
And that was far from optimal think a 6.30 flat is possible. Over to you lot now.
Solid lap that! You made me go back and have another pass at it and managed to sneak ahead again albeit with quite a few errors. And that was far from optimal think a 6.30 flat is possible. Over to you lot now.
There’s something about this car that I just can’t get comfortable with. Sometimes it feels pretty good then on some sections it just feels awful. I’ve always liked driving the Ring on the GT games but can’t say I enjoy using M6 to navigate it.
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