Dijon GP thread

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FourWheelDrift

88,556 posts

285 months

Wednesday 8th February 2006
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I practiced a bit more tonight, I can do regular 1m27s laps but can't go any quicker at the moment. In the words of Nelson Piquet, "it's like riding your bike in your living room".

Slow speed understeer is my problem I just can't get rid of at the moment, out of turn 4 (left hander) and turn 5 and turn 6

ianp68

391 posts

248 months

Thursday 9th February 2006
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D_Mike said:
PV and I were ahead of Ian after his pitstop - I know he had to have a second one after that though. That was despite a spin each on mine and pv's part - did Ian spin at all?

Only my off track excursion into the gravel on lap 1

D_Mike

5,301 posts

241 months

Thursday 9th February 2006
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ah okay, so it'd probably still have been really close even if we didn't all have a spin each... hmmm

davyboy

746 posts

256 months

Thursday 9th February 2006
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low 1.28s now in the 911

pvapour

8,981 posts

254 months

Thursday 9th February 2006
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Mike - playin my cards close to my chest 'Rossi' style the gap in the times is less than at Anders just need to keep it on track and we should be ok, Ians excursion across the grass / gravel would = less time loss than a spin I think but FWD looks a bit quicker than Ian will be damn close again though, our risk rate is lower though, as we dont have those awfull pit stops to make

Be nice to kick 76 butt again

>> Edited by pvapour on Thursday 9th February 12:07

FourWheelDrift

88,556 posts

285 months

Thursday 9th February 2006
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Can we also start prompt as well please - www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=241544&f=141&h=0

D_Mike

5,301 posts

241 months

Thursday 9th February 2006
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I had a quick go last night PV and managed an okay lap - I can definately improve as I only did 1 lap before I wnet to bed (knackered).

Maybe we should have a no racing after the pitstops rule so that we can beat them? Ferrari style

We need to concentrate on starts so we can hold them up a lot before they pit too!

ianp68

391 posts

248 months

Thursday 9th February 2006
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pvapour said:
Mike - playin my cards close to my chest 'Rossi' style the gap in the times is less than at Anders just need to keep it on track and we should be ok, Ians excursion across the grass / gravel would = less time loss than a spin I think but FWD looks a bit quicker than Ian will be damn close again though, our risk rate is lower though, as we dont have those awfull pit stops to make

Be nice to kick 76 butt again

>> Edited by pvapour on Thursday 9th February 12:07


Remember, we'll have 21 laps to make up the pitstop difference at Dijon, compared to only 15 at Anderstorp Of course the pitstop will lose us more time relatively because of the speed differential on the pit straight.

Still undecided what car to take for the race, I'll be revisiting the Capri tonight

I have a cunning plan

D_Mike

5,301 posts

241 months

Thursday 9th February 2006
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you mean you're going to pit on lap 1 so that you can lap free of traffic?

_dobbo_

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14,387 posts

249 months

Thursday 9th February 2006
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I reckon the tactic of choice for the 76 cars has to be fuel up before the start, then pit, do nothing, then run the race full length...

UncleDave

7,155 posts

232 months

Thursday 9th February 2006
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What times are we getting in the 906?

I can barely beat 1.30 - can't hold a flippin lap together right...

ianp68

391 posts

248 months

Thursday 9th February 2006
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_dobbo_ said:
I reckon the tactic of choice for the 76 cars has to be fuel up before the start, then pit, do nothing, then run the race full length...


Or if we make a good start, run the race till the penultimate lap then stop and do nothing
I'm now torn between 3 cars at Dijon, Pantera 1:27.2, Capri 1:27.4 and 911 1:28.0. With a bit more seat time in the 911 I'm sure it will be closer to the Capri times.

diver944

1,843 posts

277 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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UncleDave said:
What times are we getting in the 906?


I was struggling to get consistently under 1:31 since I've reset my wheel settings, but last night I watched a lap of Davyboys and using a couple of his lines I now have a best of 1:29

I'm now aiming for 10 laps of 1:31, then a 40 second pitstop followed by another 10 laps of 1:31

>> Edited by diver944 on Saturday 11th February 17:48

_dobbo_

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14,387 posts

249 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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I can lap 1:33s all day long in the GT40, but can't seem to crack any better than a 1:32.2 Seems the last corner is where the time is made or lost.

still i'm happier at dijon than I was at anderstorp.

FourWheelDrift

88,556 posts

285 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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_dobbo_ said:
Seems the last corner is where the time is made or lost.


What gear are you in through the last corner, if it's 3rd try 4th. The GT40 is a torquey V8 so should accelerate well in a higher gear.

Bit of background information.

In 1957 Juan Manuel Fangio won the race of his life, leading the German GP at the Nurburgring he had to pit (he started on alow fuel load and gambled on a re-fuel half way through the race), this pit stop took the targeted time PLUS a further 56 seconds due to problems. He was now almost a minute adrift of Peter Collins and Mike Hawthorn in the leading Ferraris. Collins was flying, breaking Fangio's lap record set earlier in the race. Fangio then recorded a series of laps that took most people's breath away and more importantly seconds from Collins' lead. Breaking the lap record lap after lap (he broke the lap record ten times in 22 laps), Fangio gained as much as 1 second per mile on lap 15. On lap 18 he recorded the first 90 mph lap time and by the end of the race he was close to a 92 mph lap time. With two laps to go the large lead was gone and Fangio took the lead to record his finest victory.

As well as great bravery and in his words "finally conquering the Nurburgring" one thing he did very deliberately was to use a gear higher than normal for most corners. Which is what I always try, sometimes it works.

Oh my god I've given my secret away...........

You still have to make it work though, with a higher gear in a torquey car you might find yourself spinning more, throttle control becomes very important.

Here endeth the lesson

lockstock2sb

2,855 posts

244 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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Thankyou Prof.FWD

i've been lapping at 1:28 in the pantera tonight, but thats flat out.... not looking to setup camp in the staff car park this time round

IanParker

391 posts

248 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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lockstock2sb said:
Thankyou Prof.FWD

i've been lapping at 1:28 in the pantera tonight, but thats flat out.... not looking to setup camp in the staff car park this time round


From the times being posted here, I think we should be in for a thrilling race Unless we have too many spins, at that right hander with the dip !

mj04uk

1,089 posts

267 months

Saturday 11th February 2006
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Well i'm running 1'30's constantly and flying laps of 1'29. Have changed to the Pantera, not much in it between this and the 906, but I think I can go quicker in it with a bit more practice.

clemento

15 posts

219 months

Saturday 11th February 2006
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Not done any laps yet but my little elan wont be getting anywhere near these times, lol. Is the password to the server gonna change before the race tomorrow?

Clem

UncleDave

7,155 posts

232 months

Saturday 11th February 2006
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Nah password will be same as usual..
If there are any Password changes there will be a lot of notice so nobody missed out

Don't worry about your times, I am crashing like mad and my Graphics card randomly turns itself off leaving me with no choice but to restart, and the maximum framerate is about 30... a bit like a lottery really
As long as you are consistant you should be good.
Dave.

>> Edited by UncleDave on Saturday 11th February 23:44