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Smashed said:
My mate has no trouble selling through ebay. There are some specifics about how you word the add though to stop it getting taken down.
Back on to the patch thing, anyone know when it'll hit? I'm guessing 4.1 is soon? so 4.2 is going to months away still right?
4.1 is probably a few weeks off. I'm not expecting 4.2 to be released for ~3 months.Back on to the patch thing, anyone know when it'll hit? I'm guessing 4.1 is soon? so 4.2 is going to months away still right?
O/H and I still have our accounts but aren't really finding the motivation to play, just TB dailys (she wants the mount)...
Saw a raid in general and Jumped into BH.
failed to kill the boss but DPS was up near 8-10k for most I thought that was enough the last time I killed him about a month ago, did it get buffed in a patch or something?
Saw a raid in general and Jumped into BH.
failed to kill the boss but DPS was up near 8-10k for most I thought that was enough the last time I killed him about a month ago, did it get buffed in a patch or something?
GT Kodiak said:
O/H and I still have our accounts but aren't really finding the motivation to play, just TB dailys (she wants the mount)...
Saw a raid in general and Jumped into BH.
failed to kill the boss but DPS was up near 8-10k for most I thought that was enough the last time I killed him about a month ago, did it get buffed in a patch or something?
No buffs but that fight will be easy with low dps if people know what to do and avoid taking extra damage. Bad tanks or healers will mean fail.Saw a raid in general and Jumped into BH.
failed to kill the boss but DPS was up near 8-10k for most I thought that was enough the last time I killed him about a month ago, did it get buffed in a patch or something?
Good dps on that kind of encounter will be in the 15k region. Excellent DPS up around 20k.
People with HC raid gear somewhere above that.
We usually start our raid week with that place, 10 mins and 90 VP is a good return.
The guild that the wife and I moved to took down Cho-Gall on 10 and 25 for the first time last week and we're working on Nefarian which is fun.
Seen a few raids cancelled though as people are finding Cata as a whole to be a bit 'meh'. I've been playing Rift in my non-raid time.
BH needs 10k avg DPS per player to beat the timer so you can cope with people pulling 8k as long as some are over 10k which by now many people should be capable of doing.
Is Cata "meh" I don't know. We've seen, broadly speaking, 2 types of people shouting that Cata is /fail:
1) People who have failed to adapt to the changes brought to the various classes and roles and are simply finding it all too hard. The 180 degree reversal of Blizzard's previous policy that anyone and everyone should be able to see endgame content has meant that difficulty levels have significantly scaled as has the time investment required
2) People who are "wow broken" they've played for ages, raided every tier and the game no longer holds the attraction it once did - they'll drift off to another game (RIFT for example) but ultimately they will not find a cure because fundamentally they've had it with killing dragons with the tank/healer/dps triumvirate
The realm I'm on is in a bit of a state at the moment with the previously optimistic fledgling 10 man guilds collapsing through lack of players or signups. 25 man guilds are fairing little better and underlying this seems to be reasons listed above.
From a personal standpoint I'm actually enjoying the content and finding little to complain about. Certainly raiding is challenging but appears to be tuned well and I for one do not miss the days of 30% damage and healing done buffs from ICC.
Is Cata "meh" I don't know. We've seen, broadly speaking, 2 types of people shouting that Cata is /fail:
1) People who have failed to adapt to the changes brought to the various classes and roles and are simply finding it all too hard. The 180 degree reversal of Blizzard's previous policy that anyone and everyone should be able to see endgame content has meant that difficulty levels have significantly scaled as has the time investment required
2) People who are "wow broken" they've played for ages, raided every tier and the game no longer holds the attraction it once did - they'll drift off to another game (RIFT for example) but ultimately they will not find a cure because fundamentally they've had it with killing dragons with the tank/healer/dps triumvirate
The realm I'm on is in a bit of a state at the moment with the previously optimistic fledgling 10 man guilds collapsing through lack of players or signups. 25 man guilds are fairing little better and underlying this seems to be reasons listed above.
From a personal standpoint I'm actually enjoying the content and finding little to complain about. Certainly raiding is challenging but appears to be tuned well and I for one do not miss the days of 30% damage and healing done buffs from ICC.
GnuBee said:
Is Cata "meh" I don't know. We've seen, broadly speaking, 2 types of people shouting that Cata is /fail:
1) People who have failed to adapt to the changes brought to the various classes and roles and are simply finding it all too hard. The 180 degree reversal of Blizzard's previous policy that anyone and everyone should be able to see endgame content has meant that difficulty levels have significantly scaled as has the time investment required
2) People who are "wow broken" they've played for ages, raided every tier and the game no longer holds the attraction it once did - they'll drift off to another game (RIFT for example) but ultimately they will not find a cure because fundamentally they've had it with killing dragons with the tank/healer/dps triumvirate
In Wrath I had 10 level 80s, one of each class. I can't face the thought of levelling through the new zones again and again, the story is interesting enough but the linear nature of the questing is crap.1) People who have failed to adapt to the changes brought to the various classes and roles and are simply finding it all too hard. The 180 degree reversal of Blizzard's previous policy that anyone and everyone should be able to see endgame content has meant that difficulty levels have significantly scaled as has the time investment required
2) People who are "wow broken" they've played for ages, raided every tier and the game no longer holds the attraction it once did - they'll drift off to another game (RIFT for example) but ultimately they will not find a cure because fundamentally they've had it with killing dragons with the tank/healer/dps triumvirate
GnuBee said:
From a personal standpoint I'm actually enjoying the content and finding little to complain about. Certainly raiding is challenging but appears to be tuned well and I for one do not miss the days of 30% damage and healing done buffs from ICC.
I'm enjoying the raid content but the rest of the game has definately dulled a fair bit. Our 4 tries on Neffy saw us into phase 2 without issue. It's this kind of challenge that keeps me playing.Did my first instance in Rift last night and, while being the standard trio of roles the instance, equivalent to RFK, was a nice change in pace and layout. It certainly wasn't difficult as one would expect for a starter instance so it'll be interesting to see what they turn into later on.
I think I fall into both categories somehow. I ran beta for a couple of months, and so ripped through 80-85 in under 3 days (and that was far from running 24hrs a day). So much for 5 levels being the equal of 10 old levels. Just before Christmas I get really bad flu that more or less knocked me out for a fortnight and still pretty crap for more than another month. The result was that I didn't play WoW at all, and realised that I just didn't miss it. Moreover, missing out on the various dailies meant I was behind on JC tokens and emblems from dailies. The result of this is that my gear is pretty much what I had when I levelled to 85. It feels like I am so far behind now that there is no real point catching up.
I think the emphasis on re-making existing areas for flight had taken away too many resources from the new content. I find the combination of 3 things is now putting me off.
Firstly, having to hang around narrow pokey SW instead of Dalaran. Removing the portals has also made it a real pain to travel big distances. Despite the makeover (in which SW doesn't feel like SW any more) it feels old. You just know that the damage done there will still be there in a few years time. This means that nowhere really feels like "home" now.
Immersion / RP. One of my favourite parts of the game was the quest chain for my epic Paladin mount. It felt so satisfying to have earned my charger. Of course, this requirement got removed some time ago, but this removal of immersive content has continued. Now it has got to the stage where you don't need to level your pet at all, or even feed it! Nothing seems to have to be earned now. Blizz were supposed to be making talent trees more varied and interesting. What happened there?
Finally, raids. When I was contemplating returning, I thought I should catch up on the raid fights so I watched a bunch of videos. They all just look so same-y. All been done before. I asked myself if I could do those raids with a new guild that was just starting raiding them.
Despite doing high DPS, I am annoyed with the way they keep messing around with my main hunter's talents (oh today is a Tuesday, it must be Marksman spec that's top) and the entire focus system seems clunky at best, but my Ret Pally feels uterly broken. Despite actually being my first lv85 on beta, I just can't get my head around how to play Ret any more.
Where next? No idea!
I think the emphasis on re-making existing areas for flight had taken away too many resources from the new content. I find the combination of 3 things is now putting me off.
Firstly, having to hang around narrow pokey SW instead of Dalaran. Removing the portals has also made it a real pain to travel big distances. Despite the makeover (in which SW doesn't feel like SW any more) it feels old. You just know that the damage done there will still be there in a few years time. This means that nowhere really feels like "home" now.
Immersion / RP. One of my favourite parts of the game was the quest chain for my epic Paladin mount. It felt so satisfying to have earned my charger. Of course, this requirement got removed some time ago, but this removal of immersive content has continued. Now it has got to the stage where you don't need to level your pet at all, or even feed it! Nothing seems to have to be earned now. Blizz were supposed to be making talent trees more varied and interesting. What happened there?
Finally, raids. When I was contemplating returning, I thought I should catch up on the raid fights so I watched a bunch of videos. They all just look so same-y. All been done before. I asked myself if I could do those raids with a new guild that was just starting raiding them.
Despite doing high DPS, I am annoyed with the way they keep messing around with my main hunter's talents (oh today is a Tuesday, it must be Marksman spec that's top) and the entire focus system seems clunky at best, but my Ret Pally feels uterly broken. Despite actually being my first lv85 on beta, I just can't get my head around how to play Ret any more.
Where next? No idea!
Zad said:
but my Ret Pally feels uterly broken. Despite actually being my first lv85 on beta, I just can't get my head around how to play Ret any more.
I'm still not happy with Ret, it's just too random but, with some careful UI config (power auras ftw) I can spend more time looking at the fight than watching for procs and Inquisition running out.On a simple trash fight (mobs with a few millin health) the random nature of our procs can mean as much as a 5k dps difference. DPS, not Damage Done!!!
I liked the old Ret, I could feel the play and concentrate on not standing in the fire and timing abilities to avoid GCD clash. Sometimes I end up with nothing to do after a Crusader Strike but wait the 4 seconds for the next one. At others I'm spammin Templar's Verdict on a hot streak of procs.
The key thing is that I'm now able to compete with equivalently geared guildies - our DK usually beats me on boss fights by ~1.5-2k DPS but his gear is better by a bit.
Having a usable interrupt is a brilliant thing - we now get to be useful as well as have good raid survivability.
I'm not happy with Ret but, having raided a lot with it now it's much, much better.
May as well chuck in a recruitment thread in here but The New Expedition of Defias Brotherhood (Alliance) are looking for new members our current progress is 7/13 heroic 25 man looking for capable healers and 1 or 2 melee dps and 1 or 2 ranged preferably moonkin or elemental shaman. Can check us out at www.thenewexpedition.com if anyone or you know of anyone who is currently looking for a guild, gear isn't always an issue we'd rather see someone who throughly knows their class and can pick up boss fights quickly. Hope to hear from you 
Can poke me on Taniss - alliance side for more info
Can poke me on Taniss - alliance side for more info
Moved to Overrated on The Maelstrom a while ago. 25-man raiding, 4 nights and casual atmosphere.
It's been a bit of a struggle for consistency in numbers but we finally downed Neffy.
We'll be starting HC modes on weds and are recruiting in any and all roles - if you're a DPS/Healer hybrid we'll love you long time.
At a time when 25-man raiding is dieing it looks as though this guild has, just about, weathered the storm and will be ready to pushin into 4.2 when its released.
It's been a bit of a struggle for consistency in numbers but we finally downed Neffy.
We'll be starting HC modes on weds and are recruiting in any and all roles - if you're a DPS/Healer hybrid we'll love you long time.
At a time when 25-man raiding is dieing it looks as though this guild has, just about, weathered the storm and will be ready to pushin into 4.2 when its released.
IainT said:
Moved to Overrated on The Maelstrom a while ago. 25-man raiding, 4 nights and casual atmosphere.
It's been a bit of a struggle for consistency in numbers but we finally downed Neffy.
We'll be starting HC modes on weds and are recruiting in any and all roles - if you're a DPS/Healer hybrid we'll love you long time.
At a time when 25-man raiding is dieing it looks as though this guild has, just about, weathered the storm and will be ready to pushin into 4.2 when its released.
I don't think I'm prepared to commit to 4 nights a week raiding, especially not with summer coming up. In my previous guild we had a casual raider rank. This suited me well, whenever the raid was short on numbers I jumped in (I'm a resto/moonkin druid) so basically whenever I wanted to raid I got a spot It's been a bit of a struggle for consistency in numbers but we finally downed Neffy.
We'll be starting HC modes on weds and are recruiting in any and all roles - if you're a DPS/Healer hybrid we'll love you long time.
At a time when 25-man raiding is dieing it looks as though this guild has, just about, weathered the storm and will be ready to pushin into 4.2 when its released.
just due to a lack of good healers and moonkins in the guild. I'd love to find a similar situation now but I doubt many guilds are like that.Smashed said:
I don't think I'm prepared to commit to 4 nights a week raiding, especially not with summer coming up. In my previous guild we had a casual raider rank. This suited me well, whenever the raid was short on numbers I jumped in (I'm a resto/moonkin druid) so basically whenever I wanted to raid I got a spot just due to a lack of good healers and moonkins in the guild. I'd love to find a similar situation now but I doubt many guilds are like that.
No attendance requirements which is one of the things that attracted me (plus knowing one of the guys who has been in since 2006 and raves about the atmosphere). There are plenty of people who raid 1 or 2 nights. just due to a lack of good healers and moonkins in the guild. I'd love to find a similar situation now but I doubt many guilds are like that.I was planning on ~50-75% attendance but have ended up at 100% somehow!
Smashed said:
Had a gander at your site, looks pretty good I'll let you know if I decide to apply!
Just to point out - it's not 'my' guild - I'm just a member. Moved ther to escape the pressures of runnign a raiding guild and don;t regret much apart from losing touch with a few people.Riknos said:
Just started playing this again this week after not playing for.... years and years and years.
Liking the fact that as I started via Refer a friend, we're getting 3x the EXP. Combined with the fact I'm in a guild with the +10% EXP ability it means quick leveling
I will be looking to sign back up after 2 - 3 years out - 3 x Exp sounds pretty handy - any one fancy referring me (also by referring me you must promise to give me loads of gold and armour and weapons - I can't promise I will reciprocate but I'm just that type of guy!)Liking the fact that as I started via Refer a friend, we're getting 3x the EXP. Combined with the fact I'm in a guild with the +10% EXP ability it means quick leveling
PM me if you want to be my "special friend"
Swanboy said:
Swanboy said:
Chimaeron downed last night after less than an hour.
5 bosses in total taken out in 3 hours of raiding, 1 shotted 3 of them
Atrimedes down last night, 15mins after the raid was supposed to finish 5 bosses in total taken out in 3 hours of raiding, 1 shotted 3 of them
Cho'gall and Nefarian weren't too bad, took a couple of nights raiding to learn and kill.
Al'akir was a total b@st@rd, so much RNG but we got there in about 4 raid nights.
Halfus HM also downed now, it's been a good couple of weeks
Wow is really testing thelimits of my wirless BB connection, I've been disconnected over and over again during the weekend, and really long pings tiems seem to be the norm. I've resigned myself to doing just doing quests to get the shammy to 85, but f*ck me is it repetitive! I've been through Vashjr, (but left because I was sick of miving so slowly everywhere) Hyjal (left, as there are only so many Fluffeh Bunneh Rescue missions I can tolerate) and I'm working through Deepholme, at the mo'. I'm at L82 now, does it get any better, or should just pack it in?
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