GT5 Championship / Sunday 9pm

[Pvapour]

not yet, was more interested in seeing why Ross was so much quicker than me last night

[Pvapour]

sorry Dice hopefully others aren't as stupid as I

E21_Ross said:

from other thread:

try that above test with one evora tuned to 440bhp then pegged back to 404, and compare with an evora tuned straight to 404. i'd be genuinely interested in the results

will do, I'm guessing the PP reading will tell the story before even getting to track though, what's your reading PP wise from last night?

Edited by Pvapour on Monday 21st February 17:30

[Pvapour]

E21_Ross said:

Pvapour said:

will do, I'm guessing the PP reading will tell the story before even getting to track though, what's your reading PP wise from last night?

Edited by Pvapour on Monday 21st February 17:30

no idea, will check within an hour or so once i've finished cooking and eating

no need, from the other thread....

402 hp exactly - 46.8 kgfm - 492 PP
402 hp (reduced from 449hp) - 50.1 kgfm - 498 pp

8% extra torque, not sure what that would equate to in real world?

any mathematicians out there able to work out the accelerative differences rather than doing it on track

Edited by Pvapour on Monday 21st February 18:08

[Pvapour]

vicpolky said:

Made up for a lap earlier where I rammed into the back of someone emerging from a gravel trap into the racing line in front of me - I ended up with a broken car AND a ramming penalty, whilst said person was off, and I got overtaken by another couple of cars while nursing my penalty. No hard feelings, It's all racing innit? I enjoyed the race :-)

think this may have involved me Vic, I got 'leant on' by big_sleep after letting Norbury and Ross back passed after the out-braking chicane move I made

Big_sleep leant a little to hard on me which forced me into the gravel, when I re-joined the track (i looked) you were miles away behind me, I had accelerated through at least 1 gear before you were on me, watching in my rear view mirror i was thinking 'why's he not moving over'. to me it looked like you thought I was going quicker and were going to slip stream, then realised how much slower I was and had no time to shift got me going though

[Pvapour]

be great if friction builds to the point where there's an A v B team event

any nicked ideas only = a compliment in my book tbo, all good fun

[Pvapour]

I did Jaime

will have a test later and get back to you, may have chosen car as well by then (but then again )

[Pvapour]

ok here, rooms up everyone

[Pvapour]

thanks guys, glad it went fairly smoothly, think driving on the whole was pretty good from everyone, with apologies and pulling over working well when needed

RESULTS.....

-	GT5 Championship
1ST	Norbury90 - 228
2ND	pvapour - 223
3RD	Fartgalen - 185
4TH	E21Ross - 177
5TH	Goodwoodfos - 172
6TH	the_big_sleep - 154
7TH	Darkdice - 151
8TH	Torquenstein - 122
9TH	vicpolky - 119
10TH	Pexy - 118
11TH	R1chy - 115
12TH	Diablos - 108
13TH	Rex - 107
14TH	Old_G - 57
15TH	theStig - 32

[Pvapour]

daz4m said:

Norbs, the M5 finished the season well, you guys just couldn't get past it.

I found a way

by the way, looked at replay, and according to the images you lost the back end which is how I snuck passed, I never made contact with you, did you feel contact? oo er...

I was so concerned I recorded a video of it for you be interesting to see if your replay sees it different, I was unaware of any contact through my controller which ties in with my replay

Pexy, I only went to the grass to avoid hitting you, didn't plan the grass venture

Norbury90 said:

PVA was unlucky to get a penalty in the first race, without that penalty I think it would have been a right royal battle between us! We were really closely matched on pace, I think you just had the edge on ultimate laptime pace.

very gracious of you Norbury it was weird, I had never had a penalty there EVER! or for rest of race best man won congratulations!


next championship.....

Edited by Pvapour on Monday 28th February 18:53

[Pvapour]

daz4m said:

Back end went when the merc rammed it. You were on a mission last night fella.

Edited by daz4m on Monday 28th February 20:45

not at all, drove as normal, have you watched your replay? mine shows you barging around, not me

[Pvapour]

whatever 'chief'

[Pvapour]

has completely the opposite effect on me Dice

A wide berth will be given

[Pvapour]

I'm not so sure replays are that definitive which could prove judging contact difficult in the new championship, as discussed above, I was genuinely interested to see what Daz saw in his replays as mine showed no contact at all, Daz described it as me Ramming him & I felt nothing at my end of the pad, that's a huge difference!

I'll have a look at my replay of your incident Viper to see how it differs, its important going forward I think.....

[Pvapour]

There does seem to be discrepancies between what is being felt during race and recorded for that person versus what the other player feels and has recorded.

Both replays of my incident with Daz and Vipers with Vic seem to show something different to the replays recorded by others, I got this image from my replay of Vics concern which seems to be more in line with Vics description, plus replayed showed the rear corner tap before entry to the corner, very very mild though, but as Vic says, at those high speed low grip levels...

Viper can you look at my 1st lap coming together with Daz? see if it shows a full on ramming / contact?

Edited by Pvapour on Tuesday 1st March 09:22

[Pvapour]

Daz - just looking to understand where the differences lie, there seems to have been some consistency through the championship of one person beleiving one thing has happened and the other person have a different perspective, it seems the difference in replays and feel in game at time of impact could be the reason?

from what Viper has said i clearly made contact with you and for that I applogise dont have a problem saying sorry for things when I know they've happened

but it is also quite worrying as we rely on in game feel for close proximity racing, if a driver is receiving different information in game to what's actually happening for everyone else then allowances need to be made.

Personally I love 'close' racing i & have had extremely close racing with Norbury on this basis without incident, apart from a couple where it was obvious I had made a blunder so I let him back passed, but it was obvious to me and thats the point.

I think I will make a little more space for people in the future because of this. (this will come back to haunt me I'm sure )