GT5 Championship / Sunday 9pm

[anonymous-user]

I have to say, removal of parts is going to be a MASSIVE headache. My 370Z doesn't have all 3 of those parts, I think it may only have an ECU. Reverse grid makes more sense if the intention is to make it fairer, otherwise I can see everyone piling in a car such as the 370Z negating the intention of making it fairer.

Just my 2p as I'm not actually in the championship.

[S3_Graham]

MSTRBKR said:

I have to say, removal of parts is going to be a MASSIVE headache. My 370Z doesn't have all 3 of those parts, I think it may only have an ECU. Reverse grid makes more sense if the intention is to make it fairer, otherwise I can see everyone piling in a car such as the 370Z negating the intention of making it fairer.

Just my 2p as I'm not actually in the championship.

i'll have to bail as well as i'm with the GF every weekend, and as nice as you chaps are. Its just not the same ( no boobs )

[Pvapour]

ok, with you now, not sure how many of the cars actually chosen would fall into this scenario though.

not into the 'nany state' thing myself either, I live in France FFS

I'm happy either way, I suggested it as it worked really well on a couple of other leagues I competed in as it kept some of the less capable drivers interested.

This is a league for everyone not just the people who win and I dont personaly dont think a reverse grid will make enough of a difference by the time the 1st lap is finished (could be wrong)

as I say, I'm happy either way but I do think its for all players to decide.

so... a show of hands from everybody on the playing list to say:

Yes / No / Easy

1	Darkdice	darkdice	Y/N/E
2	pvapour	pvapour	E
3	RB26DETT	pumazetecs	Y/N/E
4	RouleDuke	OLD_G_KUSH	Y/N/E
5	Vicpolky	vicpolky	Y/N/E
6	TheStig44	TheStig44	Y/N/E
7	Rex	Rex218	Y/N/E
8	Norbury90	Norbury90	Y/N/E
9	Lord_Howit_hertz	Lord_Howit_Hertz	Y/N/E
10	Fartgalen	ViperGTS67	Y/N/E
11	Daz4m	Torquenstein_05	Y/N/E
12	pexy	pexy123	Y/N/E
13	44quattro	the_big_sleep	Y/N/E
14	les3002	les3002	Y/N/E
15	Ian_Suk	Ian_sUK	Y/N/E
16	S3_Graham	Gsi_2000	Y/N/E
16	Diablos-666	Diablos-666MkII	Y/N/E

[Norbury90]

Any thoughts on mechanical damage or time penalties?

I think a reverse grid is a good idea... the difference in pace between most people will be relatively small, it won't be easy for guys at the back for the second race to fight their way through.

I'm going to have to begind a serious testing schedule of buying lots of cars, getting them to 400/1200 and then analysing performance and driveability on a range of tracks. Time-consuming stuff!

Oh also, I tuned a concept car to 400/1200 on the dot, and while it doesn't have any aero that is adjustible in the settings, it does have an air-brake on the rear of the car that moves when braking and when cornering. I'm not sure how effective it actually is though. Would I be allowed to run this in the races? If I can't then it's no biggie, I don't know if it's my fastest car yet anyway.

[Meoricin]

Is there still space to join this? As a reserve if necessary - I'm mostly finished with single player now, so I'm starting to look at playing online more, and I think I'd enjoy the tuning challenge.

PSN ID is Meoricin

[Pvapour]

Norbury90 said:

Any thoughts on mechanical damage or time penalties?

I think a reverse grid is a good idea... the difference in pace between most people will be relatively small, it won't be easy for guys at the back for the second race to fight their way through.

I'm going to have to begind a serious testing schedule of buying lots of cars, getting them to 400/1200 and then analysing performance and driveability on a range of tracks. Time-consuming stuff!

Oh also, I tuned a concept car to 400/1200 on the dot, and while it doesn't have any aero that is adjustible in the settings, it does have an air-brake on the rear of the car that moves when braking and when cornering. I'm not sure how effective it actually is though. Would I be allowed to run this in the races? If I can't then it's no biggie, I don't know if it's my fastest car yet anyway.

thx for the input, mech damage at min I think was suggested, not sure on time penalties, whats run in the normal series that's going on at the mo?

I'm not bothered about the concept car brake addition, its probably more gimick than anything.

will put you down for a No on the car restrictions then

1	Darkdice	darkdice	Y/N/E
2	pvapour	pvapour	E
3	RB26DETT	pumazetecs	Y/N/E
4	RouleDuke	OLD_G_KUSH	Y/N/E
5	Vicpolky	vicpolky	Y/N/E
6	TheStig44	TheStig44	Y/N/E
7	Rex	Rex218	Y/N/E
8	Norbury90	Norbury90	N
9	Lord_Howit_hertz	Lord_Howit_Hertz	Y/N/E
10	Fartgalen	ViperGTS67	Y/N/E
11	Daz4m	Torquenstein_05	Y/N/E
12	pexy	pexy123	Y/N/E
13	44quattro	the_big_sleep	Y/N/E
14	les3002	les3002	Y/N/E
15	Ian_Suk	Ian_sUK	Y/N/E
16	S3_Graham	Gsi_2000	Y/N/E
16	Diablos-666	Diablos-666MkII	Y/N/E

Edited by Pvapour on Wednesday 5th January 16:49

[Fartgalen]

Pvapour said:

ok, with you now, not sure how many of the cars actually chosen would fall into this scenario though.

not into the 'nany state' thing myself either, I live in France FFS

I'm happy either way, I suggested it as it worked really well on a couple of other leagues I competed in as it kept some of the less capable drivers interested.

This is a league for everyone not just the people who win and I dont personaly dont think a reverse grid will make enough of a difference by the time the 1st lap is finished (could be wrong)

as I say, I'm happy either way but I do think its for all players to decide.

so... a show of hands from everybody on the playing list to say:

Yes / No / Easy

1	Darkdice	darkdice	Y/N/E
2	pvapour	pvapour	E
3	RB26DETT	pumazetecs	Y/N/E
4	RouleDuke	OLD_G_KUSH	Y/N/E
5	Vicpolky	vicpolky	Y/N/E
6	TheStig44	TheStig44	Y/N/E
7	Rex	Rex218	Y/N/E
8	Norbury90	Norbury90	Y/N/E
9	Lord_Howit_hertz	Lord_Howit_Hertz	Y/N/E
10	Fartgalen	ViperGTS67	Y/N/E
11	Daz4m	Torquenstein_05	Y/N/E
12	pexy	pexy123	Y/N/E
13	44quattro	the_big_sleep	Y/N/E
14	les3002	les3002	Y/N/E
15	Ian_Suk	Ian_sUK	Y/N/E
16	S3_Graham	Gsi_2000	Y/N/E
16	Diablos-666	Diablos-666MkII	Y/N/E

Yes, no, easy ? huh ? don't get it.

No, to removing mods for 1st 2nd and 3rd anyway.
No aero - is what we've had before.
No aids - only ABS.

[Norbury90]

Cheers chap

[Pvapour]

removed aero mods from 1st draft

sorry wasn't clear, the idea is to be voting Yes, No or Easy, on wether you would like power penalties for 1st, 2nd, 3rd winners of R1, hopefully thats clearer

1	Darkdice	darkdice	Y/N/E
2	pvapour	pvapour	E
3	RB26DETT	pumazetecs	Y/N/E
4	RouleDuke	OLD_G_KUSH	Y/N/E
5	Vicpolky	vicpolky	Y/N/E
6	TheStig44	TheStig44	Y/N/E
7	Rex	Rex218	Y/N/E
8	Norbury90	Norbury90	Y/N/E
9	Lord_Howit_hertz	Lord_Howit_Hertz	Y/N/E
10	Fartgalen	ViperGTS67	N
11	Daz4m	Torquenstein_05	Y/N/E
12	pexy	pexy123	Y/N/E
13	44quattro	the_big_sleep	Y/N/E
14	les3002	les3002	Y/N/E
15	Ian_Suk	Ian_sUK	Y/N/E
16	S3_Graham	Gsi_2000	Y/N/E
16	Diablos-666	Diablos-666MkII	Y/N/E

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[44quattro]

1	Darkdice	darkdice	Y/N/E
2	pvapour	pvapour	E
3	RB26DETT	pumazetecs	Y/N/E
4	RouleDuke	OLD_G_KUSH	Y/N/E
5	Vicpolky	vicpolky	Y/N/E
6	TheStig44	TheStig44	Y/N/E
7	Rex	Rex218	Y/N/E
8	Norbury90	Norbury90	Y/N/E
9	Lord_Howit_hertz	Lord_Howit_Hertz	Y/N/E
10	Fartgalen	ViperGTS67	N
11	Daz4m	Torquenstein_05	Y/N/E
12	pexy	pexy123	Y/N/E
13	44quattro	the_big_sleep	N
14	les3002	les3002	Y/N/E
15	Ian_Suk	Ian_sUK	Y/N/E
16	S3_Graham	Gsi_2000	Y/N/E
16	Diablos-666	Diablos-666MkII	Y/N/E

Updated...

[Diablos-666]

I'm not sure taking away mods after wins will really work. My first thought when reading that was to choose a car that already had 400bhp stock.

I think a reverse order is much better or a lottery similar to what they do in touring cars where the top 3 get put in random places.

I also think there should be a restriction on tyre choice. Sports sport max no racing tyres. Not until we start getting into serious BHP.

What about sacrificing some BHP in exchange for a lighter car too? This will give a mixed field instead of a race track full of 400bhp 1200kg stock cars (can't be that many on offer?)

Just my 2p worth

HTH?

[Castrol Craig]

id love to play, but just too many rules, its like spankys dark days ruling f1, plus your running at the ring, and i simply cant stand that place.

[Evo]

Some of the TVRs would fit in nicely at 350bhp and 1050kgs.

[Diablos-666]

Evo said:

Some of the TVRs would fit in nicely at 350bhp and 1050kgs.

That's what I was aiming at! Damn you sussed me out.

Still a good idea though don't you think?

[y2blade]

hell yeah

I'm in

[y2blade]

Evo said:

Some of the TVRs would fit in nicely at 350bhp and 1050kgs.

yes they do..as we proved, but others started bhing about them


I'm happy to have them, I'd probably run my Cerbie if so

[Evo]

Y2's Cerbie was no faster than a 400hp 1200kg car anyway.

If you don't want a grid full of BMW M3's then I can't see the hangup about using a T350, Griffith or Cerbera.

[rex]

1	Darkdice	darkdice	Y/N/E
2	pvapour	pvapour	E
3	RB26DETT	pumazetecs	Y/N/E
4	RouleDuke	OLD_G_KUSH	Y/N/E
5	Vicpolky	vicpolky	Y/N/E
6	TheStig44	TheStig44	Y/N/E
7	Rex	Rex218	N
8	Norbury90	Norbury90	Y/N/E
9	Lord_Howit_hertz	Lord_Howit_Hertz	Y/N/E
10	Fartgalen	ViperGTS67	N
11	Daz4m	Torquenstein_05	Y/N/E
12	pexy	pexy123	Y/N/E
13	44quattro	the_big_sleep	N
14	les3002	les3002	Y/N/E
15	Ian_Suk	Ian_sUK	Y/N/E
16	S3_Graham	Gsi_2000	Y/N/E
16	Diablos-666	Diablos-666MkII	Y/N/E

Updated...

[anonymous-user]

S3_Graham said:

MSTRBKR said:

I have to say, removal of parts is going to be a MASSIVE headache. My 370Z doesn't have all 3 of those parts, I think it may only have an ECU. Reverse grid makes more sense if the intention is to make it fairer, otherwise I can see everyone piling in a car such as the 370Z negating the intention of making it fairer.

Just my 2p as I'm not actually in the championship.

i'll have to bail as well as i'm with the GF every weekend, and as nice as you chaps are. Its just not the same ( no boobs )

You know the answer to this dilemma, don't you?

[Pvapour]

Diablos-666 said:

I'm not sure taking away mods after wins will really work. My first thought when reading that was to choose a car that already had 400bhp stock.

I think a reverse order is much better or a lottery similar to what they do in touring cars where the top 3 get put in random places.

I also think there should be a restriction on tyre choice. Sports sport max no racing tyres. Not until we start getting into serious BHP.

What about sacrificing some BHP in exchange for a lighter car too? This will give a mixed field instead of a race track full of 400bhp 1200kg stock cars (can't be that many on offer?)

Just my 2p worth

HTH?

Tyres are restricted to sports soft anyway and the 333hp per ton applies to your 2nd car anyway so you can use that for the whole championship if you want.

with penalties for winners removed the rules would be pretty much the same as for the random races that are happening currently, which most seem to be happy with

will let the poll run till tomorrow.....