Battlefield 3

[Mr Happy]

The Black Flash said:

Mr Happy said:

Using frag rounds against infantry though is the mark of a noob.

This really makes me laugh, given that you've got to put in about 100 hours to unluck the usas, then get a further 90 kills to get frags. That's quite a long time to still be a noob. Nob, maybe, but not noob.

Personally I've no issues with it.

Well ok, noob is possibly the wrong word if we're talking semantically - nob is better but doesn't convey as much desire to highlight their lack of skill. Comparing them to someone who is a noob to the game accurately reflects the lack of skill required in order to get big amounts of kills with the frag rounds on infantry maps.

Of course there is always the acronym for USAS being U. Suck At Shooting

(the dot is only there because for some reason, if you end a bold tag and start another one, the forum software doesn't recognise the space in the middle)

ETA - it's only 60 kills to get the frag rounds, and with the pop gun on buckshot, any half decent player should be able to get that amount of kills in no more than 6 rounds. Also, noobs can still play with the gun, as they're dropped all over op metro. Just pick one up and pop away...

Edited by Mr Happy on Wednesday 29th February 17:30

[crocodile tears]

The Black Flash said:

crocodile tears said:

probably more like 70 hours? to unlock the usas and a max of 90 minutes to unlock the frag rounds (if you can't get a kill a minute when trying - you suck)

You don't really learn the game until you've played about 200+ hours imo

Well, it's taken me about 100. Though I am new to the whole BF thing. And probably suck.
Either way, two working weeks worth of play does not equal n00b in my book.

You can have 200 hours play time but if you still suck or don't understand game mechanics or tactics I'd still call you a n00b

..because your input to the team is equivilent of a n00bs.

[Stagpump]

Mr Happy said:

Using frag rounds against infantry though is the mark of a noob. People with thousands of USAS kills are usually the ones who brag about how awesome they are, whilst keeping schtum about their 0.8% accuracy and 50% quit ratio!

This is a war game. You wouldn't get the us marine core saying:-

"Nah I won't use this extremely effective gun that will increase my survival chances and make up for some of the shortfall I may have in skill because it might upset my opponent"

The guns are there for a reason. They are legal and quite frankly if my using it annoys you then good cos you'll get flustered and I'll have a better chance of killing you again. Metro, Grand bazaar and even Karkand the shotty is a great weapon and I'm not going to stop using it because you might think my skill level is low if I do.

As long as someone plays within the server rules and does not hack then what difference does it make what weapon they use??? Surely part of the fun is working together with your team mates to get the annoying usas user is it not??

[Mr Happy]

Stagpump said:

Mr Happy said:

Using frag rounds against infantry though is the mark of a noob. People with thousands of USAS kills are usually the ones who brag about how awesome they are, whilst keeping schtum about their 0.8% accuracy and 50% quit ratio!

This is a war game. You wouldn't get the us marine core saying:-

"Nah I won't use this extremely effective gun that will increase my survival chances and make up for some of the shortfall I may have in skill because it might upset my opponent"

The guns are there for a reason. They are legal and quite frankly if my using it annoys you then good cos you'll get flustered and I'll have a better chance of killing you again. Metro, Grand bazaar and even Karkand the shotty is a great weapon and I'm not going to stop using it because you might think my skill level is low if I do.

As long as someone plays within the server rules and does not hack then what difference does it make what weapon they use??? Surely part of the fun is working together with your team mates to get the annoying usas user is it not??

Doesn't annoy me at all, I have plenty of counter usas tactics in my repertoire!

U Suck At Shooting

[Stagpump]

True but not because I use a shotgun.

In a round of karg or caspian I use other gun types (my fav being the M416)

But in a round of metro I use a shotty, tugs, spawn point combo thus increasing my kills but also aiding my team massively so how is that noobish???

Switching your kit to suit the situation and helping your team be more effective is surely as un-noobish as you can get.

Though, I will admit people who ruin a perfectly good fire fight with a rpg do get on my tits a bit but that just make their eventual t-bagging all the sweeter.

[crocodile tears]

Stagpump said:

True but not because I use a shotgun.

In a round of karg or caspian I use other gun types (my fav being the M416)

But in a round of metro I use a shotty, tugs, spawn point combo thus increasing my kills but also aiding my team massively so how is that noobish???

Switching your kit to suit the situation and helping your team be more effective is surely as un-noobish as you can get.

Though, I will admit people who ruin a perfectly good fire fight with a rpg do get on my tits a bit but that just make their eventual t-bagging all the sweeter.

You ever heard of the term "n00b ch00b" ?
The USAS is a high capacity, automatic n00b ch00b launcher. Says it all really

anyway.. when people use a USAS I bring out my FAMAS with a m320 launcher at hand

[Mr Happy]

Stagpump said:

True but not because I use a shotgun.

In a round of karg or caspian I use other gun types (my fav being the M416)

But in a round of metro I use a shotty, tugs, spawn point combo thus increasing my kills but also aiding my team massively so how is that noobish???

Switching your kit to suit the situation and helping your team be more effective is surely as un-noobish as you can get.

Though, I will admit people who ruin a perfectly good fire fight with a rpg do get on my tits a bit but that just make their eventual t-bagging all the sweeter.

Just like all the other USAS-noobs, turning each and every metro match into a frag-oriented noobfest.

Whenever I play metro, I can be found generally laying smoke, pushing forward as much as possible, killing the enemy and reviving my team mates...

Also, it's pointless using a T-UGS on metro as everyone knows where the pinch points are. Carrying a T-UGS on op metro is as opportunistic as carrying a U Suck At Shooting with frags!! Oh hang on...

[Geezer-20v]

Absolutely loving the L85A2 at the moment. For all the effort it took to unlock it I don't know why it took it me so long to try it out.

[Jasandjules]

Mr Happy said:

Whenever I play metro, I can be found generally laying smoke, pushing forward as much as possible, killing the enemy and reviving my team mates...

I play C4 kills.... I die a fair bit as a rule but I don't half have fun trying to drop C4 along corridors and choke points then randomly detonating. Got a 4 kill yesterday with that..... But then also I find sneaking up behind the enemy squad in a corridor and letting rip with my LMG is fun too!!

[Stagpump]

Mr Happy said:

Just like all the other USAS-noobs, turning each and every metro match into a frag-oriented noobfest.

Also, it's pointless using a T-UGS on metro as everyone knows where the pinch points are. Carrying a T-UGS on op metro is as opportunistic as carrying a U Suck At Shooting with frags!! Oh hang on...

1)I don't use frag rounds I use buckshot.

2)"Also, it's pointless using a T-UGS on metro as everyone knows where the pinch points are." Speak up your trousers were muffling what you were saying. Just cos you know where the pinch point is doesn't mean you know where the enemy are approaching it from or how many there are.

Really I wish you would stop accusing people of not knowing how to play the game because they don't agree with your tactics.

you really do sound like a 13yr old cod player "wah wah wah your not playing the way I like wah wah wah"

[Jasandjules]

Let's face it, the delight of playing against humans is the variety of tactics deployed.

[Mr Happy]

Stagpump said:

Mr Happy said:

Just like all the other USAS-noobs, turning each and every metro match into a frag-oriented noobfest.

Also, it's pointless using a T-UGS on metro as everyone knows where the pinch points are. Carrying a T-UGS on op metro is as opportunistic as carrying a U Suck At Shooting with frags!! Oh hang on...

1)I don't use frag rounds I use buckshot.

2)"Also, it's pointless using a T-UGS on metro as everyone knows where the pinch points are." Speak up your trousers were muffling what you were saying. Just cos you know where the pinch point is doesn't mean you know where the enemy are approaching it from or how many there are.

Really I wish you would stop accusing people of not knowing how to play the game because they don't agree with your tactics.

you really do sound like a 13yr old cod player "wah wah wah your not playing the way I like wah wah wah"

Mission Accomplished!

[Stagpump]

Mr Happy said:

Mission Accomplished!

[militantmandy]

Had a couple of good days online. I have had some personal achievements:

Shot down a chopper with a tank (finally)
Shot down a littlebird with a Z11 (finally)
Sniped a chopper pilot and gunner
Jihadi jeep 2 tanks at the same time
Sniped the driver of a jeep from about 350m

I've been on a serious roll with the tank busting too. I think c4ing tanks may be one of the most fun things you can do in a game.

I love BF31!

[Iggle Piggle]

Petrolhead95 said:

youngsyr said:

Is it just my paranoia, or are more and more people using the USAS-12 with fresh rounds?

I played a game of conquest in operation metro the other night and it's no exaggeration to day that art least half the other side eye using them

Yupp, it's the wimps gun.

I would disagree. It is a great gun to use to play the game correctly. I ensure I play the strenght of whichever class I currently select. The USAS is a powerful gun but I find its popularity has been surpassed by the Famas. I only play hardcore now as its a much more even game but on Normal servers the famas is almost an instant kill whereas the USAS takes a good 3 to 4 hits to kill someone.

I do however enjoy using the USAS as a bit of a troll weapon purely because you know the person at the other end of the kill is calling you a USAS we, currently on approx 1250 kills with it but much preferring the QB-55 and the ASVAL at the minute.

[crocodile tears]

Mr Happy said:

Whenever I play metro, I can be found generally laying smoke, pushing forward as much as possible, killing the enemy and reviving my team mates...

Also, it's pointless using a T-UGS on metro as everyone knows where the pinch points are. Carrying a T-UGS on op metro is as opportunistic as carrying a U Suck At Shooting with frags!! Oh hang on...

my mind = blown at anyone other than me using smoke ch00bs on metro and pushing forwards as much as possible


However I don't agree with the tugs being pointless on metro though

[anonymous-user]

I'm gutted that they implemented the M26 MASS into this game, because it completely negates the M320 BUCK round In BC2 I had nearly 500 kills with the 40mm shotgun rounds (so nearly platinum star), but it just isn't the same in BF3.

[Polarbert]

crocodile tears said:

Mr Happy said:

Whenever I play metro, I can be found generally laying smoke, pushing forward as much as possible, killing the enemy and reviving my team mates...

Also, it's pointless using a T-UGS on metro as everyone knows where the pinch points are. Carrying a T-UGS on op metro is as opportunistic as carrying a U Suck At Shooting with frags!! Oh hang on...

my mind = blown at anyone other than me using smoke ch00bs on metro and pushing forwards as much as possible


However I don't agree with the tugs being pointless on metro though

Yes indeed. Its always good having one laying around as you can spot some guys looping around.

[Mr Happy]

Polarbert said:

crocodile tears said:

Mr Happy said:

Whenever I play metro, I can be found generally laying smoke, pushing forward as much as possible, killing the enemy and reviving my team mates...

Also, it's pointless using a T-UGS on metro as everyone knows where the pinch points are. Carrying a T-UGS on op metro is as opportunistic as carrying a U Suck At Shooting with frags!! Oh hang on...

my mind = blown at anyone other than me using smoke ch00bs on metro and pushing forwards as much as possible


However I don't agree with the tugs being pointless on metro though

Yes indeed. Its always good having one laying around as you can spot some guys looping around.

See, if you push through to C or A early enough, you can negate any flankers pretty easily.

Too many people are hung up on getting the first point, when that's not the way to play metro. From the outset head straight to B, then as soon as B is capped, lay smoke down and push through to A or C (depending on side). Once you've got through to the point nearest the enemy spawn, it's just a case of maintaining it and winning.

I sometimes also use smoke as a distraction technique - lay it down an exit you aren't going to use, and the oppo almost always automatically go towards it.

Or that's how I play metro anyway. No requirement for the recon class really, let alone a T-UGS!...

[JB434]

You guys know that the MAV also works as a motion sensor? Effectively makes TUGS useless as you can put the MAV down, use it to help you clear people out and then when you move on you don't even need to go back and pick it up again, just activate it and fly it to yourself.
Also you can fly it into an objective before you go in to recon and then provide you with a motion sensor sitting right on top of it as you approach.