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PotatoSalad

601 posts

84 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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DibblyDobbler said:
Another one from the Scottish Borders smile


The Eildon Hills by Mike Smith, on Flickr
What do you think about Fuji for landscapes? I've been struggling with foliage from both X-T1 and X-T2, some raw converters are better than others but trees in the distance often come out very mushy compared to other cameras with APS-C sensors. I even compared it with some photos I've taken with Canon 30D 10 years ago and the Fuji came off worse. I swapped my full frame gear for it and while I love the colours and the feel of the camera, trying to get a sharp photo of some trees or grass drives me mad, even with prime lenses that are razor sharp for anything else. Lightroom CC has improved a bit but still..

PotatoSalad

601 posts

84 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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Does anyone else here like abandoned structures?







DavidY

4,459 posts

285 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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PotatoSalad said:
What do you think about Fuji for landscapes? I've been struggling with foliage from both X-T1 and X-T2, some raw converters are better than others but trees in the distance often come out very mushy compared to other cameras with APS-C sensors. I even compared it with some photos I've taken with Canon 30D 10 years ago and the Fuji came off worse. I swapped my full frame gear for it and while I love the colours and the feel of the camera, trying to get a sharp photo of some trees or grass drives me mad, even with prime lenses that are razor sharp for anything else. Lightroom CC has improved a bit but still..
I've had all versions of the X-Trans sensors, and Lightroom has improved and is much better on the X-Trans 3 sensors than previous ones. I've used Lightroom with the Peter Bridgewood settings, and not had any issues, but I know of others that have. I think that they are one of those things once seen can never be unseen.

Irident X-Transformer (now available as a plug-in (and free trial) for Lightroom is reckoned to be the best, but I've been very happy with Lightroom.

PotatoSalad

601 posts

84 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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DavidY said:
PotatoSalad said:
What do you think about Fuji for landscapes? I've been struggling with foliage from both X-T1 and X-T2, some raw converters are better than others but trees in the distance often come out very mushy compared to other cameras with APS-C sensors. I even compared it with some photos I've taken with Canon 30D 10 years ago and the Fuji came off worse. I swapped my full frame gear for it and while I love the colours and the feel of the camera, trying to get a sharp photo of some trees or grass drives me mad, even with prime lenses that are razor sharp for anything else. Lightroom CC has improved a bit but still..
I've had all versions of the X-Trans sensors, and Lightroom has improved and is much better on the X-Trans 3 sensors than previous ones. I've used Lightroom with the Peter Bridgewood settings, and not had any issues, but I know of others that have. I think that they are one of those things once seen can never be unseen.

Irident X-Transformer (now available as a plug-in (and free trial) for Lightroom is reckoned to be the best, but I've been very happy with Lightroom.
Thank you, I googled Peter's method and interestingly he seems to be doing the opposite of what I came up with. I set the sharpening quite high but radius and detail on minimum. I'll test it tonight.

Iridient was indeed good but it adds extra steps to the workflow and it generates huge TIFFs that quickly eat disk space. I also tried demo of Capture One and I was impressed but since my entire library, presets etc. are in Lightroom and it costs £250 I didn't see it worth swapping for my amateur needs.


DavidY

4,459 posts

285 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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PotatoSalad said:
DavidY said:
PotatoSalad said:
What do you think about Fuji for landscapes? I've been struggling with foliage from both X-T1 and X-T2, some raw converters are better than others but trees in the distance often come out very mushy compared to other cameras with APS-C sensors. I even compared it with some photos I've taken with Canon 30D 10 years ago and the Fuji came off worse. I swapped my full frame gear for it and while I love the colours and the feel of the camera, trying to get a sharp photo of some trees or grass drives me mad, even with prime lenses that are razor sharp for anything else. Lightroom CC has improved a bit but still..
I've had all versions of the X-Trans sensors, and Lightroom has improved and is much better on the X-Trans 3 sensors than previous ones. I've used Lightroom with the Peter Bridgewood settings, and not had any issues, but I know of others that have. I think that they are one of those things once seen can never be unseen.

Irident X-Transformer (now available as a plug-in (and free trial) for Lightroom is reckoned to be the best, but I've been very happy with Lightroom.
Thank you, I googled Peter's method and interestingly he seems to be doing the opposite of what I came up with. I set the sharpening quite high but radius and detail on minimum. I'll test it tonight.

Iridient was indeed good but it adds extra steps to the workflow and it generates huge TIFFs that quickly eat disk space. I also tried demo of Capture One and I was impressed but since my entire library, presets etc. are in Lightroom and it costs £250 I didn't see it worth swapping for my amateur needs.
There is a difference in the way lightroom processes between 99% and 100% on the detail slider, so if using X-Trans1 and X-Trans2 sensor cameras I would whack it all the way to 100%.

I've found X-Trans3 files easier to work with, and often found that a small adjustment on the Clarity gives the sharpness/punch that I need.

Also I would recommend using the in-camera histogram, the Fuji's are very sensitive to clipping on the right hand side, and their highlight recovery is poor in comparison with the shadow recovery, especially noticable on X-Trans3 where the Shadow Recovery is astonishing. Expose towards the rhs on the histogram, but try not to clip!!

Which Fuji are you using?

PotatoSalad

601 posts

84 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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DavidY said:
PotatoSalad said:
DavidY said:
PotatoSalad said:
What do you think about Fuji for landscapes? I've been struggling with foliage from both X-T1 and X-T2, some raw converters are better than others but trees in the distance often come out very mushy compared to other cameras with APS-C sensors. I even compared it with some photos I've taken with Canon 30D 10 years ago and the Fuji came off worse. I swapped my full frame gear for it and while I love the colours and the feel of the camera, trying to get a sharp photo of some trees or grass drives me mad, even with prime lenses that are razor sharp for anything else. Lightroom CC has improved a bit but still..
I've had all versions of the X-Trans sensors, and Lightroom has improved and is much better on the X-Trans 3 sensors than previous ones. I've used Lightroom with the Peter Bridgewood settings, and not had any issues, but I know of others that have. I think that they are one of those things once seen can never be unseen.

Irident X-Transformer (now available as a plug-in (and free trial) for Lightroom is reckoned to be the best, but I've been very happy with Lightroom.
Thank you, I googled Peter's method and interestingly he seems to be doing the opposite of what I came up with. I set the sharpening quite high but radius and detail on minimum. I'll test it tonight.

Iridient was indeed good but it adds extra steps to the workflow and it generates huge TIFFs that quickly eat disk space. I also tried demo of Capture One and I was impressed but since my entire library, presets etc. are in Lightroom and it costs £250 I didn't see it worth swapping for my amateur needs.
There is a difference in the way lightroom processes between 99% and 100% on the detail slider, so if using X-Trans1 and X-Trans2 sensor cameras I would whack it all the way to 100%.

I've found X-Trans3 files easier to work with, and often found that a small adjustment on the Clarity gives the sharpness/punch that I need.

Also I would recommend using the in-camera histogram, the Fuji's are very sensitive to clipping on the right hand side, and their highlight recovery is poor in comparison with the shadow recovery, especially noticable on X-Trans3 where the Shadow Recovery is astonishing. Expose towards the rhs on the histogram, but try not to clip!!

Which Fuji are you using?
X-T2 so it's X-Trans 3. It's not a huge issue with the latest Lightroom CC and I hardly ever print full resolution photos, resized for typical web use they look absolutely fine. I'll see how those settings compare to mine, I've taken few shots with 35mm prime closed down few steps and I was really surprised to see the foliage coming out so badly. It's more of an annoyance once you realise it's not a £200 camera and it really shouldn't be such a pain in this price bracket.

DavidY

4,459 posts

285 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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PotatoSalad said:
Does anyone else here like abandoned structures?
Yes, I have a thing for old slate quarries at the moment!! (All X-T2 BTW)


170302 Maenofferen 2 by David Yeoman, on Flickr


170504 Dinorwic Blondin by David Yeoman, on Flickr


170504 Dinorwic - Abandoned Quarrymen Boots by David Yeoman, on Flickr


170302 Maenoffren 6 by David Yeoman, on Flickr

PotatoSalad

601 posts

84 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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Excellent, I love rusty things!

jonvw84

228 posts

82 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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Some that I've taken myself over the years (nothing fancy camera wise, think was a 4/5 megapixel camera!)









BTW that's my (old) car next to the 747 biggrin

Dogsey

4,300 posts

231 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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DibblyDobbler

11,274 posts

198 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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PotatoSalad said:
What do you think about Fuji for landscapes? I've been struggling with foliage from both X-T1 and X-T2, some raw converters are better than others but trees in the distance often come out very mushy compared to other cameras with APS-C sensors. I even compared it with some photos I've taken with Canon 30D 10 years ago and the Fuji came off worse. I swapped my full frame gear for it and while I love the colours and the feel of the camera, trying to get a sharp photo of some trees or grass drives me mad, even with prime lenses that are razor sharp for anything else. Lightroom CC has improved a bit but still..
I love it! Hadn't noticed any issues with trees or grass but maybe I just wasn't looking closely enough! David knows way more than me about this stuff so I won't bother trying to elaborate further smile

PS - nice work up there ^^^

tuffer

8,850 posts

268 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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Some of my favourites from a recent US trip:
PH Grand Canyon by Chris Brown, on Flickr
DSC_1528 by Chris Brown, on Flickr
DSC_1275 by Chris Brown, on Flickr
DSC_0545_1 by Chris Brown, on Flickr

DibblyDobbler

11,274 posts

198 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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Another couple from the Scottish Borders smile


Abbotsford House by Mike Smith, on Flickr


Drygrange Old Bridge and the Leaderfoot Viaduct by Mike Smith, on Flickr

realjv

1,114 posts

167 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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DibblyDobbler

11,274 posts

198 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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^^^ Like that RealJV clap

DibblyDobbler

11,274 posts

198 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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Couple more from the Borders smile


Dryburgh Abbey (1) by Mike Smith, on Flickr


Dryburgh Abbey (2) by Mike Smith, on Flickr

jonvw84

228 posts

82 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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One more from my archives, again on a 6MP camera, spotting him tacking across Aberystwyth Bay and waited about five mins for him to get into position!


DibblyDobbler

11,274 posts

198 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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jonvw84 said:
waited about five mins for him to get into position!
Surprised it took him that long when sailing downhill biggrin

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Saturday 19th August 2017
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Galactic by Rob Dickinson, on Flickr

DibblyDobbler

11,274 posts

198 months

Saturday 19th August 2017
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bowbowbow

Awesome Level = 100 biggrin
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