Canon DPP Raw Processor

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joust

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14,622 posts

260 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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For those that haven't spotted it, you can now download Canon's raw DPP processor for any Canon digital camera. Previously you only could get this if you had the serial number of a 1D.
www.canon-europe.com/Support/Patches/dpp/

There is also a fantastic guide to it at
www.photoworkshop.com/canon/dpp/index.html

You'll never shoot in JPEG again, and the results you can get are amazing...

J

EmmaP

11,758 posts

240 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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I'll check this out. I've been using C1 software. It is absolutely amazing. It is incredible the difference it makes to the quality of the image. The noise reduction and abscence of colour fringing in sharpening is staggering. It also does a fantastic job of batch processing too.

nighthawk

1,757 posts

245 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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Does this do anything that photoshop CS can't do?

joust

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Saturday 1st January 2005
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nighthawk said:
Does this do anything that photoshop CS can't do?
Err - yes, and it's really a completly different package....

The most important thing is that it has Canon's processing from Raw to JPG/TIFF in it, hence you get an algorithm that was written by the people that make the camera...

J

Mustard

6,992 posts

246 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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whooosh straight over the top of my head...

with an IXUS430 I guess this isnt something I should be worrying about, hey Emma? I best go back to I guess

joust

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Saturday 1st January 2005
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Mustard said:
whooosh straight over the top of my head...
with an IXUS430 I guess this isnt something I should be worrying about, hey Emma? I best go back to I guess
Err - no - it needs a Canon camera that generates RAW files - normally the digital SLRs.



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ehasler

8,566 posts

284 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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joust said:

nighthawk said:
Does this do anything that photoshop CS can't do?

Err - yes, and it's really a completly different package....

The most important thing is that it has Canon's processing from Raw to JPG/TIFF in it, hence you get an algorithm that was written by the people that make the camera...

J
Photoshop CS supports Canon RAW files as standard now, as will Photoshop Elements 4, and you can also get Camera Raw for PS 7.

Most reviews I've seen have found that 3rd party conversion software works better than Canon's, e.g., C1 and BreezeBrowser. The general consensus seems to be that Canon should stick to building cameras and leave writing software to others!

nighthawk

1,757 posts

245 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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Thats pretty much what i'd heard about canons software.

I've never even opened the software that came with my camera, and I have photoshop CS installed on my main machine and my laptop.

The only real aspect of it I was interested in was batch resizing and batch conversion from raw to jpg after the images have been optimized.
I'm sure it can be done by recording an action on PS, but i've not managed to crack it yet.

joust

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Saturday 1st January 2005
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nighthawk said:
Thats pretty much what i'd heard about canons software.
I've never even opened the software that came with my camera, and I have photoshop CS installed on my main machine and my laptop.
The only real aspect of it I was interested in was batch resizing and batch conversion from raw to jpg after the images have been optimized.
I'm sure it can be done by recording an action on PS, but i've not managed to crack it yet.
t's so much more than what's included with commercial cameras!

I suggest you spend 5 minutes looking at the tutorial at
www.photoworkshop.com/canon/dpp/index.html or have a quick read of www.outbackphoto.com/artofraw/raw_14/essay.html and then see if you don't want to download it....

J

joust

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Saturday 1st January 2005
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ehasler said:
Most reviews I've seen have found that 3rd party conversion software works better than Canon's, e.g., C1 and BreezeBrowser. The general consensus seems to be that Canon should stick to building cameras and leave writing software to others!

??? Are you sure?!?

DPReview's forums have everyone raving about DPP over Adobe's versions.... Photoworkshop also say that it's better as it give much more control.

That's how I found out about it yesterday, I followed the dpreview forum thread about it and ended up at the photoworkshop tutorial.

With Adobe you can't combine RAW and RGB space white balancing, you have to do two steps. With DPP it seems that you can do both at the same time. DPP also seems to be real time updates and a "before and after" view mode. The "copy and paste" of the profiles also allows you to set a whole series of photos to a good "base" correction, and then just tweak each one from that base.

Sure you aren't thinking of Zoombrowser EX - I'd agree that is truely a horrible piece of software, but then that's bundled with every Canon consumer camera. DPP came from the professional side of Canon's business, and as I said, only used to be available with the 1D.

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bilko2

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233 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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Damn!
It doesn't support windows 98se! and i'm not about to fork out for the £90 odd upgrade to xp. I like 98.
Oh well, back to file viewer and zoom browser. They are nasty though.

joust

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Saturday 1st January 2005
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bilko2 said:
Damn!
It doesn't support windows 98se! and i'm not about to fork out for the £90 odd upgrade to xp. I like 98.
Oh well, back to file viewer and zoom browser. They are nasty though.
Bummer. FV and ZB are truely horrible aren't they!

J

Andy M

3,755 posts

260 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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I'm having problems installing the software.

Here's a grab of the message that keeps popping up:



Anybody have any ideas?

Ian_H

650 posts

245 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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Have you tried downloading the file again in case the download was corrupted and make sure it is the right file for either Mac or Windows


Cheers
Ian

Andy M

3,755 posts

260 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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Yeah I've tried that - it still no worky

nighthawk

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245 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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Andy

have you got any of the other canon software installed?

the page says you need at least one of

File Viewer Utility 1.1-1.3
EOS Viewer Utility 1.0/1.1
Digital Photo Professional 1.0/1.1
RAW Image Task 1.2


to be installed before it'll install.

Andy M

3,755 posts

260 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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nighthawk said:
Andy

have you got any of the other canon software installed?

the page says you need at least one of

File Viewer Utility 1.1-1.3
EOS Viewer Utility 1.0/1.1
Digital Photo Professional 1.0/1.1
RAW Image Task 1.2


to be installed before it'll install.


Brian,

Yes, I have Digital Photo Professional v1.1.0.3 installed which came with my 20D.

I may try uninstalling that and then try reinstalling it from scratch,

Thanks for your help

joust

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14,622 posts

260 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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Nod. The posts on dpreview and others suggest that it has problems if it can't "find" one of the listed programmes.

If a re-install doesn't sort it, give me a shout and I'll see what I can google for you.

J

mikef

4,887 posts

252 months

Sunday 2nd January 2005
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joust said:
For those that haven't spotted it, you can now download Canon's raw DPP processor for any Canon digital camera. Previously you only could get this if you had the serial number of a 1D.
Thanks, I have a few thousand CRW images from my D30, I'll give this a try

Mike

murph7355

37,762 posts

257 months

Monday 3rd January 2005
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I hate the Canon software

Not very intuitive in use (my intuition anyway ), not very quick and a pain in the arse to do batch stuff, even using the batch processor.

But all that said, it's free, and it's possible to get good quality results out of it. C1 and the like are expensive and I'm not sure they're worth the extra.