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Sorry can't help you there as i use an iPhone.
Today's mission was a couple of short flights in the countryside and despite a minor hiccup - flew it into the branches of a tree, at least i did some pruning i suppose - i got some decent pictures, some of the countryside and some of a water tower not too far away.
Today's mission was a couple of short flights in the countryside and despite a minor hiccup - flew it into the branches of a tree, at least i did some pruning i suppose - i got some decent pictures, some of the countryside and some of a water tower not too far away.
There is a building in the local town, used to be an insurance company building, then once they had left it was used by various companies, the last being BetFair.
Then a developer wanted to demolish it, the local council said no and it went to appeal. The council won, so the developer appealed it and it went to - i think - the Environmental Secretary who agreed with the local council, so it went to apeal again and the High Court ruled the developer can proceed with their plans to demolish it and build 7 20 storey tower blocks of flats/apartments
And as i was up in the air, i rotated 180 degrees and took a pic of the local railway station
Then a developer wanted to demolish it, the local council said no and it went to appeal. The council won, so the developer appealed it and it went to - i think - the Environmental Secretary who agreed with the local council, so it went to apeal again and the High Court ruled the developer can proceed with their plans to demolish it and build 7 20 storey tower blocks of flats/apartments
And as i was up in the air, i rotated 180 degrees and took a pic of the local railway station
I had my first encounter with the Drone Police today. I was out with family having a bite to eat at Sheriff Hutton. Behind the pub are the ruins of a castle which we read about over dinner and then walked around it. Anyway, threw the Mavic into the air to get a shot and within minutes a guy was ranting at me about invasion of privacy and that he’ll shoot it down if I didn’t move on. He said the castle was classed as his back garden and therefore not mine to photograph. I told him he was very lucky and unfortunately I wasn’t doing anything wrong.
Shame really, it’s an interesting looking place. I’d have happily engaged with him properly, but there was no reasoning with him. His neighbour then came over and politely asked to see the photos to ensure I’d not got anyone sunbathing etc… which I politely showed him what I’d taken.
Anyone else been told off yet?
Also, pic. I would have liked to get a little lower down, but decided it wasn’t worth the hassle:
Shame really, it’s an interesting looking place. I’d have happily engaged with him properly, but there was no reasoning with him. His neighbour then came over and politely asked to see the photos to ensure I’d not got anyone sunbathing etc… which I politely showed him what I’d taken.
Anyone else been told off yet?
Also, pic. I would have liked to get a little lower down, but decided it wasn’t worth the hassle:
Got a bit braver with the Mini 2 over the weekend. I've always been a bit cautious with it, but that's probably stopped me getting some decent shots.
So, on Saturday morning, I got brave with height, distance and water...
Straining tower reflections in the sun by Nigel Ogram, on Flickr
Sunrise at Lake Vyrnwy by Nigel Ogram, on Flickr
Rest of the album here - https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjA2Sv4
It got me thinking about the CAA distance rules (must be able to see the drone) - with a DJI Mini, I couldn't see it at 120 metres altitude directly above me, so I also lost sight of it at around 100 metres horizontal distance. I know the rules are about safety, but I can't see how a good FPV view is any less safe than actually being able to see a tiny speck in the distance.
Some of the drone shots I've seen on this thread are clearly past the point of being able to see the drone - what are other people's views on the distance rules?
So, on Saturday morning, I got brave with height, distance and water...
Straining tower reflections in the sun by Nigel Ogram, on Flickr
Sunrise at Lake Vyrnwy by Nigel Ogram, on Flickr
Rest of the album here - https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjA2Sv4
It got me thinking about the CAA distance rules (must be able to see the drone) - with a DJI Mini, I couldn't see it at 120 metres altitude directly above me, so I also lost sight of it at around 100 metres horizontal distance. I know the rules are about safety, but I can't see how a good FPV view is any less safe than actually being able to see a tiny speck in the distance.
Some of the drone shots I've seen on this thread are clearly past the point of being able to see the drone - what are other people's views on the distance rules?
Great shots. I especially like the top down one. Flying over water was nerve racking at first, but once it dawned on my that there were fewer obstacles, it made for good practice. My first proper video was at Henley Traditional Boat Festival. Keeping the drone above the height of the boats and then tracking up and down the river worked really well to get rid of those nerves. I got permission from the organisers for that day.
Re the line of sight. It is difficult sometimes and I accept that there are occasions I lose sight, however the only times this happens is if I’m high enough to avoid any impacts. If I’m flying near a building, I’ll never fly around the side of it for example.
I do plan the flight where possible and even when I’ve got full visibility, a keep an eye on the map and the first person view.
Re the line of sight. It is difficult sometimes and I accept that there are occasions I lose sight, however the only times this happens is if I’m high enough to avoid any impacts. If I’m flying near a building, I’ll never fly around the side of it for example.
I do plan the flight where possible and even when I’ve got full visibility, a keep an eye on the map and the first person view.
Technically speaking, anyone flying a drone could potentially be breaking the law re line of sight. If say you have an Mavic, you have to be 50 mts up and 180mts horizontally from any bystanders.
I don’t care how good your eyesight is, you wont see it 180 mts away.
I think the general principle is you must be in a direct line of sight to where the drone is, you can’t fly it round a hill for example or in the case of the Mini range, round the back of buildings over a residential area.
I try and keep mine in direct line of sight when flying it so no matter which way i fly, conceivably i could see it if my vision was enhanced. Because if i fly that up to 51 mts, trust me you need good eyesight to see it.
That’s my view of it anyway and i might well be wrong.
I don’t care how good your eyesight is, you wont see it 180 mts away.
I think the general principle is you must be in a direct line of sight to where the drone is, you can’t fly it round a hill for example or in the case of the Mini range, round the back of buildings over a residential area.
I try and keep mine in direct line of sight when flying it so no matter which way i fly, conceivably i could see it if my vision was enhanced. Because if i fly that up to 51 mts, trust me you need good eyesight to see it.
That’s my view of it anyway and i might well be wrong.
slopes said:
Technically speaking, anyone flying a drone could potentially be breaking the law re line of sight. If say you have an Mavic, you have to be 50 mts up and 180mts horizontally from any bystanders.
I don’t care how good your eyesight is, you wont see it 180 mts away.
I think the general principle is you must be in a direct line of sight to where the drone is, you can’t fly it round a hill for example or in the case of the Mini range, round the back of buildings over a residential area.
I try and keep mine in direct line of sight when flying it so no matter which way i fly, conceivably i could see it if my vision was enhanced. Because if i fly that up to 51 mts, trust me you need good eyesight to see it.
That’s my view of it anyway and i might well be wrong.
It'll all be automated soon, fines the same as speed cameras etc.I don’t care how good your eyesight is, you wont see it 180 mts away.
I think the general principle is you must be in a direct line of sight to where the drone is, you can’t fly it round a hill for example or in the case of the Mini range, round the back of buildings over a residential area.
I try and keep mine in direct line of sight when flying it so no matter which way i fly, conceivably i could see it if my vision was enhanced. Because if i fly that up to 51 mts, trust me you need good eyesight to see it.
That’s my view of it anyway and i might well be wrong.
https://www.dji.com/uk/aeroscope
Dougie.
I would hope that any technology to apply control to drones would be to protect ‘sensitive’ areas, not to clobber a responsible hobby flyer.
The technology already exists to make a car stick to the speed limits, but hasn’t been implemented (yet…) so I’m hoping that drones will escape too.
My flights were early on Saturday morning and I took the drone out of sight, although it was definitely in line of sight (ie nothing between me and the drone). However, at the time of the first flight (before 6am) I hadn’t seen anyone else at the location and by the last flight (8-ish), I had seen one other person, who was running the lake perimeter road and definitely not anywhere near the drone.
I’ll probably continue to interpret the rules based on a responsible assessment of the risk, rather than a binary view on whether or not I can see it.
The technology already exists to make a car stick to the speed limits, but hasn’t been implemented (yet…) so I’m hoping that drones will escape too.
My flights were early on Saturday morning and I took the drone out of sight, although it was definitely in line of sight (ie nothing between me and the drone). However, at the time of the first flight (before 6am) I hadn’t seen anyone else at the location and by the last flight (8-ish), I had seen one other person, who was running the lake perimeter road and definitely not anywhere near the drone.
I’ll probably continue to interpret the rules based on a responsible assessment of the risk, rather than a binary view on whether or not I can see it.
driver67 said:
slopes said:
Technically speaking, anyone flying a drone could potentially be breaking the law re line of sight. If say you have an Mavic, you have to be 50 mts up and 180mts horizontally from any bystanders.
I don’t care how good your eyesight is, you wont see it 180 mts away.
I think the general principle is you must be in a direct line of sight to where the drone is, you can’t fly it round a hill for example or in the case of the Mini range, round the back of buildings over a residential area.
I try and keep mine in direct line of sight when flying it so no matter which way i fly, conceivably i could see it if my vision was enhanced. Because if i fly that up to 51 mts, trust me you need good eyesight to see it.
That’s my view of it anyway and i might well be wrong.
It'll all be automated soon, fines the same as speed cameras etc.I don’t care how good your eyesight is, you wont see it 180 mts away.
I think the general principle is you must be in a direct line of sight to where the drone is, you can’t fly it round a hill for example or in the case of the Mini range, round the back of buildings over a residential area.
I try and keep mine in direct line of sight when flying it so no matter which way i fly, conceivably i could see it if my vision was enhanced. Because if i fly that up to 51 mts, trust me you need good eyesight to see it.
That’s my view of it anyway and i might well be wrong.
https://www.dji.com/uk/aeroscope
Dougie.
slopes said:
driver67 said:
slopes said:
Technically speaking, anyone flying a drone could potentially be breaking the law re line of sight. If say you have an Mavic, you have to be 50 mts up and 180mts horizontally from any bystanders.
I don’t care how good your eyesight is, you wont see it 180 mts away.
I think the general principle is you must be in a direct line of sight to where the drone is, you can’t fly it round a hill for example or in the case of the Mini range, round the back of buildings over a residential area.
I try and keep mine in direct line of sight when flying it so no matter which way i fly, conceivably i could see it if my vision was enhanced. Because if i fly that up to 51 mts, trust me you need good eyesight to see it.
That’s my view of it anyway and i might well be wrong.
It'll all be automated soon, fines the same as speed cameras etc.I don’t care how good your eyesight is, you wont see it 180 mts away.
I think the general principle is you must be in a direct line of sight to where the drone is, you can’t fly it round a hill for example or in the case of the Mini range, round the back of buildings over a residential area.
I try and keep mine in direct line of sight when flying it so no matter which way i fly, conceivably i could see it if my vision was enhanced. Because if i fly that up to 51 mts, trust me you need good eyesight to see it.
That’s my view of it anyway and i might well be wrong.
https://www.dji.com/uk/aeroscope
Dougie.
I guess it's the usual case of a few bad apples screwing it up for the rest of us and the legislation has to cope with the lowest common denominator.
I don't know if all drones have geofencing, but I suspect a few don't and these are then used by people who don't know (or care) about the drone laws.
I love the extra freedom that a sub 250g drone brings, but I still use it responsibly. I wouldn't use it over people or residential areas, simply because I'd worry that they wouldn't be happy about it (despite it being within the rules).
I don't know if all drones have geofencing, but I suspect a few don't and these are then used by people who don't know (or care) about the drone laws.
I love the extra freedom that a sub 250g drone brings, but I still use it responsibly. I wouldn't use it over people or residential areas, simply because I'd worry that they wouldn't be happy about it (despite it being within the rules).
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