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Byker28i

60,135 posts

218 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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Lost Soul said:
It was on a youtube video, i'll look it up later but best to check the drone before buying them as they add 6 grams or so to the overall weight. I weighed mine as i was curious and i think mine weighed 241gms with the battery in so would still be well inside the 250gram category


Here's the link to Amazon for the strobes and they can be done as red and green, so easy to identify which way it is facing
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ultralight-Brightness-Col...
Thanks,
the problem I have is that because of the small size you'll need lights on the arms, and I've not found light enough ones to fit on the mini

Byker28i

60,135 posts

218 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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Lost Soul said:
These might be better

https://www.flyingtech.co.uk/electronics/vifly-str...

Dobbo - yes you can but the current rules for VLOS state you must be able to do that without looking at telemetry, so you cannot look at your screen basically.
If you use red and green strobes, then in low light conditions you can easily tell which side is facing which way even if you are 500 mts away

Edited by Lost Soul on Wednesday 26th April 16:42


Edited by Lost Soul on Thursday 27th April 07:31
Still 6 gms each - thats 12gms added, which even at 241gms puts it over the limit.
Obviously not a problem on a bigger machine but then that has different rules, loses the advantages of a smaller drone and flight area etc.
Hence why I've always kept it close and in sight rather than just fly it up the beach etc

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 27th April 10:42

Lost Soul

38,831 posts

188 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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Byker28i said:
Lost Soul said:
These might be better

https://www.flyingtech.co.uk/electronics/vifly-str...

Dobbo - yes you can but the current rules for VLOS state you must be able to do that without looking at telemetry, so you cannot look at your screen basically.
If you use red and green strobes, then in low light conditions you can easily tell which side is facing which way even if you are 500 mts away

Edited by Lost Soul on Wednesday 26th April 16:42


Edited by Lost Soul on Thursday 27th April 07:31
Still 6 gms each - thats 12gms added, which even at 241gms puts it over the limit.
Obviously not a problem on a bigger machine but then that has different rules, loses the advantages of a smaller drone and flight area etc.
Hence why I've always kept it close and in sight rather than just fly it up the beach etc

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 27th April 10:42
You'd be surprised, weight your drone on some kitchen scales with the battery in, it's way less than 249 grams.
Personally i wouldn't want to fly my drone that far away but as i mentioned yesterday, the VLOS rules are a framework open to however you wish to interpret them but you need to be able to prove you are following the rules if something were to happen. Imagine if you were flying halfa mile or so away and lost control and hit someone, try explaining you were complying with VLOS in that situation

For me and what i want to do, i will be either flying at a height that most people wont see it or hear it, or be in an area so isolated that nobody is about and i can fly as low as i like. But even so, i don't much like the idea of flying that far away from myself and i think the furthest i have been away from myself is probably 500 mts whereas recently, it has been within eyesight.

Lost Soul

38,831 posts

188 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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Still trying to work out how to edit stuff, i might just stop trying to edit things as i can't seem to work out the aperture i need to use


GetCarter

29,400 posts

280 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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Lost Soul said:
Still trying to work out how to edit stuff, i might just stop trying to edit things as i can't seem to work out the aperture i need to use

Are you taking in RAW? If so, you can sort this sorta' stuff easily in free progs or something like Lightroom.

If you are letting your drone decide what will happen with the camera, then you have little control over the results.

These were all shot in RAW (by a domestic DJI drone) , then 5 mins to get back to 'real' rather than what a bad camera saw...:

http://stevecarter.com/random/Aerial.htm

ETA.. first up, your drone is set to massively over expose, reset it to its default.

Edited by GetCarter on Sunday 30th April 14:38

Lost Soul

38,831 posts

188 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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Yeah they were shot in Raw and i know i need to sort the exposure, that's the bit i am struggling with the most right now, it's just immesely frustrating.
I've messed about with editing but as you said, the over exposure is what is killing the pics right now.

It's a learning curve and i can deal with the editing it afterwards bit, it's not being able to resolve the overexposure no matter what i try that is so frustrating

mikef

4,882 posts

252 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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Lost Soul said:
Yeah they were shot in Raw and i know i need to sort the exposure, that's the bit i am struggling with the most right now,
I’ve had a Mini 2 SE and now a Mini 3 and have never seen issues like those pics, even shooting directly toward the sun. Are you getting any decent, well-exposed photo’s?

Lost Soul

38,831 posts

188 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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mikef said:
Lost Soul said:
Yeah they were shot in Raw and i know i need to sort the exposure, that's the bit i am struggling with the most right now,
I’ve had a Mini 2 SE and now a Mini 3 and have never seen issues like those pics, even shooting directly toward the sun. Are you getting any decent, well-exposed photo’s?
If you only shoot in JPEG and Auto settings, then you get almost perfect pictures but if you want to edit them, you have to move out of AUTO and that is where the trouble starts

mikef

4,882 posts

252 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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I shoot in RAW (+JPG, can’t turn that off), never seen results like that

Edited by mikef on Sunday 30th April 17:39

Lost Soul

38,831 posts

188 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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mikef said:
I shoot in RAW (+JPG, can’t turn that off), never seen results like that

Edited by mikef on Sunday 30th April 17:39
You can get almost perfect pictures using JPEG+RAW if you leave it in Auto but as i said, if you want to manipulate things afterwards then it's best to turn off the Auto function* but then you have to be on top of the shutter speed, aperture settings etc and that is where i struggle. It's all down to learning more about those particular settings and how best to adjust them to get the pictures i want but also learning how to then edit them.

* If you look on the screen at the bottom right hand side, you can see the Auto button there. Try turning it off and take a picture to see if you get the same thing happen? That way you might see what i mean, just remember to turn Auto back on again afterwards smile

Off out with the drone tomorrow to try and get some pics and see if switching Auto back on makes any difference, if not i'll have to reset the camera settings back to factory settings.

GetCarter

29,400 posts

280 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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Lost Soul said:
If you only shoot in JPEG and Auto settings, then you get almost perfect pictures but if you want to edit them, you have to move out of AUTO and that is where the trouble starts
If you stop messing with the aperture settings it'll be fine.

mikef

4,882 posts

252 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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Yeah, I generally use the Pro (manual) settings. Out of interest, do you have a record of what settings you were using for those images?

Lost Soul

38,831 posts

188 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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mikef said:
Yeah, I generally use the Pro (manual) settings. Out of interest, do you have a record of what settings you were using for those images?
Nope, sorry and to answer GetCarter, i didn't touch them that much and once i adjusted them and couldn't get what i wanted as a result, i went back and put them back to what they were to start with. Then tried a different way. It's all a learning curve and i need to learn more but it is frustrating

Lost Soul

38,831 posts

188 months

Monday 1st May 2023
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It's strange, after listening to you both yesterday, i went back into the drone settings and set the camera to Auto.
Here are two pictures taken today during the same flight, slight difference of position of the drone but nothing else touched



So way better than before which just proves i have an awful lot to learn about aperture settings, exposure etc but then picture two is totally different but with exactly the same settings



Strange how one is so much more vivid than the second and the only difference is the angle they are taken from as the gimbal settings are the same in as much as i didn't move it during the flight.
I still have a lot to learn clearly

dobbo_

14,384 posts

249 months

Monday 1st May 2023
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The camera is having to expose for the sky and the ground which makes the top image appear flatter. The bottom image has much less sky in frame so the exposure means it looks more vibrant

thebraketester

14,246 posts

139 months

Monday 1st May 2023
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Lost Soul said:
It's strange, after listening to you both yesterday, i went back into the drone settings and set the camera to Auto.
Here are two pictures taken today during the same flight, slight difference of position of the drone but nothing else touched



So way better than before which just proves i have an awful lot to learn about aperture settings, exposure etc but then picture two is totally different but with exactly the same settings



Strange how one is so much more vivid than the second and the only difference is the angle they are taken from as the gimbal settings are the same in as much as i didn't move it during the flight.
I still have a lot to learn clearly
Auto.... that doesn't mean the same settings (iso, shutter, aperture etc) hence two vastly different results.

Lost Soul

38,831 posts

188 months

Monday 1st May 2023
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dobbo_ said:
The camera is having to expose for the sky and the ground which makes the top image appear flatter. The bottom image has much less sky in frame so the exposure means it looks more vibrant
Yeah that makes sense i guess

GetCarter

29,400 posts

280 months

Monday 1st May 2023
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Very, very low tide reveals seabed here. Pic from 200 ft.


Lost Soul

38,831 posts

188 months

Monday 1st May 2023
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Different pic subject that Steve, great pic though

Byker28i

60,135 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2023
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Lost Soul said:
You'd be surprised, weight your drone on some kitchen scales with the battery in, it's way less than 249 grams.
Personally i wouldn't want to fly my drone that far away but as i mentioned yesterday, the VLOS rules are a framework open to however you wish to interpret them but you need to be able to prove you are following the rules if something were to happen. Imagine if you were flying halfa mile or so away and lost control and hit someone, try explaining you were complying with VLOS in that situation

For me and what i want to do, i will be either flying at a height that most people wont see it or hear it, or be in an area so isolated that nobody is about and i can fly as low as i like. But even so, i don't much like the idea of flying that far away from myself and i think the furthest i have been away from myself is probably 500 mts whereas recently, it has been within eyesight.
Yup if you see from a previous post I weighed my drone when I got a skin for it, and weighed the skin to ensure it's under 250gm, mine wasn't 'way under'...

I think some sort of light/strobe is needed. I've flown on the beach this weekend, sea fog rolled in quickly and I lost it, had to hit the home button because I lost all sight of it and reference on the ground on the screen. Still didn't see it until it descended through about 6-8 feet...