Entry level DSLR

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craigjm

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17,960 posts

201 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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Simpo Two said:
Eh wot? The 3400 has a built-in flash...

But yes, they have a hot shoe as well, for beefier units, just like film SLRs.
So it does.... none of the promo pictures were showing it popped up

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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Access to cheap wireless triggers and strobes is plentiful if you want to get into that in a big way, even ttl metering and stuff is pretty easy these days

craigjm

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17,960 posts

201 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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Thanks guys, really helpful. Anything else to consider?

eltawater

3,114 posts

180 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Processing software! Make sure she always has the camera set to shoot RAW + Jpeg and get her to learn how to use something like Lightroom to bring out the best in her RAW files.

Simpo Two

85,526 posts

266 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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eltawater said:
Processing software! Make sure she always has the camera set to shoot RAW + Jpeg and get her to learn how to use something like Lightroom to bring out the best in her RAW files.
One step at a time! Stay with JPG until she can work the camera properly and compose a photo smile When she gets to the level of worrying about white balance and highlight recovery THEN you can unleash the RAW...

zedx19

2,756 posts

141 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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I know very little about Photography so bought a cheap Canon 1200D over a year ago, mainly to photograph my children growing up. Personally find the thing superb, takes crisp photos (in my eyes) and it's quick to respond. However you have to use the viewfinder to take photos, if you try to use the screen it's very very slow. For a cheap DSLR though, I'm very very happy.

eltawater

3,114 posts

180 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Simpo Two said:
One step at a time! Stay with JPG until she can work the camera properly and compose a photo smile When she gets to the level of worrying about white balance and highlight recovery THEN you can unleash the RAW...
I think the desire to crop and adjust things like exposure will be there from a very early stage though so it's worth getting into the habit of at least loading the RAW into something like lightroom and getting used to a workflow.... By all means fiddle with the JPEG if it's quicker but at least if the RAW is being captured at the same time then she can always revisit them later with her new found techniques.

flight147z

977 posts

130 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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zedx19 said:
I know very little about Photography so bought a cheap Canon 1200D over a year ago, mainly to photograph my children growing up. Personally find the thing superb, takes crisp photos (in my eyes) and it's quick to respond. However you have to use the viewfinder to take photos, if you try to use the screen it's very very slow. For a cheap DSLR though, I'm very very happy.
I wanted a 1200D when I bought my 1100D (The 1100D was being discontinued at the time). The build quality is much nicer and I imagine the 1300D is a progression of that too

Weslake-Monza

461 posts

184 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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I bought my daughter a Nikon 5200 and the thing she most liked about it was that I bought her the one that's red. I got her a cheap Nikon 55-200 to go with it and she rarely takes it off to use anything wider or my 40 Micro (Nikon calls Macro, Micro).

craigjm

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17,960 posts

201 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Yes I had noticed they do a red version of the Nikon. I guess she would probably like that. Going to go to Jessops at the weekend and see which menu system etc she likes

flight147z

977 posts

130 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Weslake-Monza said:
I bought my daughter a Nikon 5200 and the thing she most liked about it was that I bought her the one that's red. I got her a cheap Nikon 55-200 to go with it and she rarely takes it off to use anything wider or my 40 Micro (Nikon calls Macro, Micro).
Telephoto on a DSLR and a decent camera phone makes a good combo if you don't want to switch lenses when you're out. I normally stick a wider lense on at night

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Honestly Id be careful with entry level nikons.

Was shocked on the last workshop to find out the D3300 doesnt do some very very basic stuff like exposure simulation & bracketing.

Simpo Two

85,526 posts

266 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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RobDickinson said:
Honestly Id be careful with entry level nikons.

Was shocked on the last workshop to find out the D3300 doesnt do some very very basic stuff like exposure simulation & bracketing.
Then again, I have no idea what the first is and never use the second.

(well I tried it once but you forget to take it off and then wonder why your exposures are all over the place next time)

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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"I dont use it therefore its irrelevant" ...

Simpo Two

85,526 posts

266 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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RobDickinson said:
"I dont use it therefore its irrelevant" ...
If you don't, then it is!

My point is - don't buy a camera based on how many bullet points it has. Buy it on how well it fits how you want to use it. A feature you don't want, need or use is not a feature smile

craigjm

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201 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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RobDickinson said:
"I dont use it therefore its irrelevant" ...
It would be more helpful if you could kindly explain what they are please.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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craigjm said:
RobDickinson said:
"I dont use it therefore its irrelevant" ...
It would be more helpful if you could kindly explain what they are please.
Automatic bracketing allows the camera to take 3 different exposures for you, one darker, one as you have set and one lighter, great for if you are not sure or if you are blending exposures in landscapes

Exposure simulation is when you put it in live view the screen shows you pretty much exactly what you will get rather than showing you a good brightness regardless of your settings.

craigjm

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17,960 posts

201 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Thank you

eltawater

3,114 posts

180 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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I'd say they're really rather more nice to haves than reasons to dismiss entry level cameras biggrin

alock

4,228 posts

212 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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craigjm said:
Going to go to Jessops at the weekend and see which menu system etc she likes
If your branch is anything like ours, then you might want to try somewhere else instead.

Our Jessops seems to be staffed by part time students with little interest/experience in photography.

Our local London Camera Exchange (not in London) is vastly more knowledgeable and offer real advice.