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singlecoil

33,610 posts

246 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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Here's another one. Exposure-wise, how it looks on a standard iPad 2 straight from Flickr is what we wanted.

Sparkenhoe and Wensleydale Blue by Elliott and Nolan, on Flickr

Speed addicted

5,574 posts

227 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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singlecoil said:
Here's another one. Exposure-wise, how it looks on a standard iPad 2 straight from Flickr is what we wanted.

Sparkenhoe and Wensleydale Blue by Elliott and Nolan, on Flickr
And now I'm getting hungry...

Looks good, the only thing I would suggest is a little more light from another direction to bring out the colours in the fruit and get rid of the slightly harsh shadow around the bread. Possibly a slightly lower angle so you could see the crust on the bread too?
Actually is the slice of bread propped up on something? The angle it's at looks different from the angle the board is at somehow.

I take it this is mostly natural light?

singlecoil

33,610 posts

246 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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Speed addicted said:
And now I'm getting hungry...

Looks good, the only thing I would suggest is a little more light from another direction to bring out the colours in the fruit and get rid of the slightly harsh shadow around the bread. Possibly a slightly lower angle so you could see the crust on the bread too?
Actually is the slice of bread propped up on something? The angle it's at looks different from the angle the board is at somehow.

I take it this is mostly natural light?
It's all strobe, one in a softbox close behind the subject, and another at the front high up and some distance away. We tried a reflector to get some light into the front but it just wasn't enough, hence the strobe at the front. Which of course caused the shadow behind the slice which, believe it or not, I hadn't noticed until you pointed it out. Now I can't stop seeing it and I'm going to have to do something about it in PS as the set has now been dismantled.

The sides of the slice fall away rapidly because it was the first full slice off the cob . It's flat on the board but its shape makes it look like that. We did try subsequent slices but they were all too large.


Incidentally the cider at the top right was completely flat by the time we got to the final version, so I had to clone in the bubbles from a much earlier shot.

Speed addicted

5,574 posts

227 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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singlecoil said:
Speed addicted said:
And now I'm getting hungry...

Looks good, the only thing I would suggest is a little more light from another direction to bring out the colours in the fruit and get rid of the slightly harsh shadow around the bread. Possibly a slightly lower angle so you could see the crust on the bread too?
Actually is the slice of bread propped up on something? The angle it's at looks different from the angle the board is at somehow.

I take it this is mostly natural light?
It's all strobe, one in a softbox close behind the subject, and another at the front high up and some distance away. We tried a reflector to get some light into the front but it just wasn't enough, hence the strobe at the front. Which of course caused the shadow behind the slice which, believe it or not, I hadn't noticed until you pointed it out. Now I can't stop seeing it and I'm going to have to do something about it in PS as the set has now been dismantled.

The sides of the slice fall away rapidly because it was the first full slice off the cob . It's flat on the board but its shape makes it look like that. We did try subsequent slices but they were all too large.


Incidentally the cider at the top right was completely flat by the time we got to the final version, so I had to clone in the bubbles from a much earlier shot.
In that case I'd do a little mid range boost to bring out the colours a little more. Nothing too much, you don't want it to look too american!

Dismantled = eaten? sounds like a job I could get into!


Speed addicted

5,574 posts

227 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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Shot at 600mm, f6.2 (the only way I'd be shooting them!)

singlecoil

33,610 posts

246 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Speed addicted said:

Shot at 600mm, f6.2 (the only way I'd be shooting them!)
I've been wondering if there is anything I can say about this picture since I first saw it. Apart from it being excellent that is. I don't think there is any way in which it could be improved from my point of view. You were in the right place at the right time (lovely golden hour light) with the right gear pointing in the right direction. All of which takes quite a bit of doing, I realise, so well done.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Composition and light are great, not sure its the best pose just sat there staring but guess you take what you can.

I think it could be processed with a little more output sharpening for web that size.

corozin

2,680 posts

271 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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I have no idea why this thread exists. If you want constructive critique, post your stuff for review on photo.net.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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corozin said:
I have no idea why this thread exists. If you want constructive critique, post your stuff for review on photo.net.
why does anything exist? Perhaps we dont care for photo.net?

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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I'm waiting for a pic of tumbling or falling water which resembles cotton wool so I can attack it tongue out
There are some fantastic examples of photography in here, I can only look on at your talent with some envy.

Craigwww

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853 posts

169 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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corozin said:
I have no idea why this thread exists. If you want constructive critique, post your stuff for review on photo.net.
I have no idea why this comment exists. If you want to be constructive, pick an image and leave a critique. Otherwise you might feel more at home on mums.net.



Edited by Craigwww on Monday 20th November 05:25

DavidY

4,459 posts

284 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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227bhp said:
I'm waiting for a pic of tumbling or falling water which resembles cotton wool so I can attack it tongue out
There are some fantastic examples of photography in here, I can only look on at your talent with some envy.
But that would be subjective critique not objective critique!!!!

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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DavidY said:
227bhp said:
I'm waiting for a pic of tumbling or falling water which resembles cotton wool so I can attack it tongue out
There are some fantastic examples of photography in here, I can only look on at your talent with some envy.
But that would be subjective critique not objective critique!!!!
It's critique and that is what the thread is for, it's a fact that cotton wool doesn't flow over rocks. What is a picture? To me it is capturing a moment to be viewed forever and as close (in detail) as it was viewed by the naked eye.
Anyhow, lets not derail the thread unless you want to take my off the cuff comment seriously?

DavidY

4,459 posts

284 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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227bhp said:
It's critique and that is what the thread is for, it's a fact that cotton wool doesn't flow over rocks. What is a picture? To me it is capturing a moment to be viewed forever and as close (in detail) as it was viewed by the naked eye.
Anyhow, lets not derail the thread unless you want to take my off the cuff comment seriously?
My comment was 'just as non-serious' so here goes, fill your boots (I am actually genuinely interested in the critique, both objectively and subjectively)


160107 Vale Royal Sluice sm by David Yeoman, on Flickr

singlecoil

33,610 posts

246 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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DavidY said:
227bhp said:
It's critique and that is what the thread is for, it's a fact that cotton wool doesn't flow over rocks. What is a picture? To me it is capturing a moment to be viewed forever and as close (in detail) as it was viewed by the naked eye.
Anyhow, lets not derail the thread unless you want to take my off the cuff comment seriously?
My comment was 'just as non-serious' so here goes, fill your boots (I am actually genuinely interested in the critique, both objectively and subjectively)


160107 Vale Royal Sluice sm by David Yeoman, on Flickr
I must admit that I also am not keen on long exposure shots of moving water, and I'm not hugely keen on B&W images either. But leaving that aside for my taste that picture is a bit too contrasty. Apart from that I think it's an excellent photo, with plenty of impact.

Craigwww

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853 posts

169 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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singlecoil said:
I must admit that I also am not keen on long exposure shots of moving water, and I'm not hugely keen on B&W images either. But leaving that aside for my taste that picture is a bit too contrasty. Apart from that I think it's an excellent photo, with plenty of impact.
I would tend to agree on the above. However I do enjoy the odd 'moving water' shot when done correctly.

Personally for me, although it's not a 'bad' image at all, I'm struggling to find the point of it. In this image the water seems to be the subject of the photo. I find that moving water shots work only when they are part of an image but not the main focus, e.g foreground of a landscape shot, where the landscape is more the subject. The reason I say this, is that I too had a series of shots I took of moving water at sunset and after spending hours processing them... I sat back and thought..that's boring..so I converted it to B&W to see if it would make more of an impact.. before realising I was trying to polish a turd and just abandoned it. BTW I am not saying your image is a turd!!

What was the reason this was processed in B&W, was that the intention when you took the shot or like me, you felt the image lacked something so a monochrome conversion was employed to bring some mood?

Edited by Craigwww on Monday 20th November 12:11

DavidY

4,459 posts

284 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Interesting feedback

I did a small project on Industrial Decline local to me, and all the images (whether rightly or wrongly) were processed in a B&W 'Northern Gritty' style, hence the boosted contrast, and high structure (clarity).

On this particular picture the water (and the force of the water) was the subject. Surprisingly the exposure is only 1/4 second, so it just shows the speed the water was travelling at.

Craigwww

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853 posts

169 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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DavidY said:
Interesting feedback

I did a small project on Industrial Decline local to me, and all the images (whether rightly or wrongly) were processed in a B&W 'Northern Gritty' style, hence the boosted contrast, and high structure (clarity).

On this particular picture the water (and the force of the water) was the subject. Surprisingly the exposure is only 1/4 second, so it just shows the speed the water was travelling at.
Provided with some context, I can see how this image would work as a series on industrial decline.


DibblyDobbler

11,271 posts

197 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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DavidY said:
Surprisingly the exposure is only 1/4 second
That's what makes it work for me - I don't generally like these where the shutter is too slow but where you can still get the movement in the water (even at maybe 1/10th - 1/20th) then they tend to work better IMHO smile

Nigel_O

2,889 posts

219 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Speed addicted said:

Shot at 600mm, f6.2 (the only way I'd be shooting them!)
Great shot - I'd love to get something like that. However, when I saw it, I wondered if a tight crop would help - what do you think? (image on Thumbsnap simply 'cos I couldn't be bothered with Flickr for someone else's images)



I think it makes the image feel a bit more intimate and looks as though you were closer than you really were