Canon Lens - "normal" vs Image Stabilising

Canon Lens - "normal" vs Image Stabilising

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Podie

Original Poster:

46,630 posts

276 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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I'm just about to purchase a 70-300mm lens for the camera (Canon 300D) before going on holiday.

I was all set to buy the Canon EF Zoom Lens - 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 III - USM (and a filter) brand new from Jessops in Southend (excellent service and advice there from Nina)... but a mate of mine is selling his Canon EF Zoom Lens - 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 IS USM - the Image Stabilising jobbie (his Canon got nicked and he has bought a Nikon).

So... question is... do I buy the "normal" lens... or the year old Image Stabilising jobbie..? Is the Image Stabilising worth it...?

Thoughts..?

sihemm

1 posts

230 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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Had a I/S lens a while back and found it heavier and after a few hours use you feel the extra weight The only advantage (over the non I/S) was better tracking of moving subjects - in my case motorbikes.
If you are getting it for a good price (similar to non I/S) go for it, otherwise not worth the extra dollar compared to the non I/S. Only my opinion; being strictly amateur!

simpo two

85,603 posts

266 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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Podie said:
his Canon got nicked and he has bought a Nikon).

Sounds like the D70 Clud (Sabotage Wing) at work

Rude Girl

6,937 posts

260 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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simpo two said:

Podie said:
his Canon got nicked and he has bought a Nikon).


Sounds like the D70 Clud (Sabotage Wing) at work


Well they didn't do a very good job then, did they Simpo? If they'd have had the lens nicked as well, it could have found its way back to Podie for a tenner!

Podie

Original Poster:

46,630 posts

276 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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Rude Girl said:

simpo two said:


Podie said:
his Canon got nicked and he has bought a Nikon).



Sounds like the D70 Clud (Sabotage Wing) at work



Well they didn't do a very good job then, did they Simpo? If they'd have had the lens nicked as well, it could have found its way back to Podie for a tenner!


a tenner, you say... go on then

406

3,636 posts

254 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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Rude Girl said:

simpo two said:


Podie said:
his Canon got nicked and he has bought a Nikon).



Sounds like the D70 Clud (Sabotage Wing) at work



Well they didn't do a very good job then, did they Simpo? If they'd have had the lens nicked as well, it could have found its way back to Podie for a tenner!


No No No. It's a Canon lens, make that a fiver

Rude Girl

6,937 posts

260 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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You rotten sods!

Well since I shoved it further off topic, I feel I ought to bring it back (Podie knows where I live).

What's the advice then? Is a second hand IS lens better value than a non-IS with warranty if they're both about the same price?

406

3,636 posts

254 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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Rude Girl said:
You rotten sods!

Well since I shoved it further off topic, I feel I ought to bring it back (Podie knows where I live).

What's the advice then? Is a second hand IS lens better value than a non-IS with warranty if they're both about the same price?


The used IS one is worth slightly less than the ew Non IS. However, accidental damage to any of them should be covered by household insurance If you get my drift

poah

2,142 posts

229 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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buy the IS version

Podie

Original Poster:

46,630 posts

276 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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Rude Girl said:
Well since I shoved it further off topic, I feel I ought to bring it back (Podie knows where I live).


It's OK lads... hold off the



Bee_Jay

2,599 posts

249 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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The 75-300 IS is the first generation IS, and is not all that good (we are now on 3rd Generation, with lenses like the 70-300 DO IS). As such it only gives you a 1-1.5 stop advantage in real life, as opposed to the 2.5 to 3 of the latest lenses.

It does however get a higher rating than the 75-300 III USM, and given the choice between the 2, I would probably buy the IS.

I have heard conflicting reports about this lens, some thing it is a bit slow in focussing.

For more, read here: www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=16&sort=7&cat=27&page=2

Bee_Jay

2,599 posts

249 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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Also for some sample pictures from lots of people look here:
www.pbase.com/cameras/canon/ef_75300_4is

Podie

Original Poster:

46,630 posts

276 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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Hmm... still torn as to what to do...

Seems that the IS function is a nice to have, rather than a need to have... question is, does it warrant the extra money...?


Bee Jay.. thanks for the post and the links... but some of the techno-speak stuff was a bit over my head... can I have it in "simple" please...?

V6GTO

11,579 posts

243 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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I've got the 100-400L IS and believe me, the IS gets you shots you can't get otherwise.

Martin

Bee_Jay

2,599 posts

249 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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Podie said:
Hmm... still torn as to what to do...

Seems that the IS function is a nice to have, rather than a need to have... question is, does it warrant the extra money...?


Bee Jay.. thanks for the post and the links... but some of the techno-speak stuff was a bit over my head... can I have it in "simple" please...?


How much extra money are we talking here?

Podie

Original Poster:

46,630 posts

276 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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Bee_Jay said:

Podie said:
Hmm... still torn as to what to do...

Seems that the IS function is a nice to have, rather than a need to have... question is, does it warrant the extra money...?


Bee Jay.. thanks for the post and the links... but some of the techno-speak stuff was a bit over my head... can I have it in "simple" please...?



How much extra money are we talking here?


Been offered the IS for £200...

Podie

Original Poster:

46,630 posts

276 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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Just been reading about the "DO" lens... wow! Looks cool, but a bit of overkill for an enthusiastic amateur...!!


V6GTO said:
I've got the 100-400L IS and believe me, the IS gets you shots you can't get otherwise.

Martin


Think is Martin... how do I put this..? You're a bit good at this photo malarky... I'm just trying to move up from taking snaps to taking pictures...

Realistically I'll be taking photos of cars (moving and stationary), scenery, the odd bit of wildlife, and probably trying to catch people unaware (which I like doing!).

Really appreciate the thoughts and imput..

Podie

Original Poster:

46,630 posts

276 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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Bee_Jay said:
The 75-300 IS is the first generation IS, and is not all that good (we are now on 3rd Generation, with lenses like the 70-300 DO IS). As such it only gives you a 1-1.5 stop advantage in real life, as opposed to the 2.5 to 3 of the latest lenses.

It does however get a higher rating than the 75-300 III USM, and given the choice between the 2, I would probably buy the IS.


Ah, got my head round this now...

Ex-biker

1,315 posts

248 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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I'm following this with interest.

I was thinking of a 100-400mm Canon or 80-400mm Sigma as my next purchase (both IS/OS).

Since moving to a Dslr from the Canon S1 IS, the IS is something I really miss. I found I rarely used a tripod before for static shots, but need it now (70-300mm Sigma APO).

For action & motorsport thought I find I can get good enough (imo anyway) results without the IS.

Higher than 300mm though? Is IS a must?

Bee_Jay

2,599 posts

249 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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At £200 it would be worth getting the IS.

I have the 70-300 DO, and it is fantastic. Small, and always in my camera bag. Used it almost exclusively at a wedding reception on Sat night.

It is an OUTSTANDING lens. The IS really is useful.

I do borrow a 100-400L off a friend for special occasions though (motorsports etc.) though can't justify the investment personally as yet and have more than coped with the 70-300 in the past.

I find that the difference between 300 and 400 really isn't that much in real life, and on a 1.6x body (20D, 300D etc.) 300mm is quite a lot of reach (equivalent of 480mm).

Having said that, a big white lens like the 100-400 does get people to move out of the way to get a shot as they realise you are 'working' and in the past has got me straight past security with no questions asked.