Macro Photo thread

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rich888

2,610 posts

200 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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Just been looking over these macro photos and have to say they are stunning, it's quite inspirational to see these photos taken using a variety of cameras and lenses to such great effect.

Well I have the 100mm macro lens so have no excuses now, so will be out looking for a few slow moving insects to photograph. Ironically yesterday I walked past a few enormous sunflowers which had some very busy bees hanging onto them. And guess where the camera was, yup, sat at home!!!

Will try harder and post a few examples on here smile

DibblyDobbler

11,273 posts

198 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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Look forward to seeing some results Rich thumbup

Vintage Racer

621 posts

146 months

Thursday 13th September 2018
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2 weeks away in the UK and no chance of any macro, so back home and straight out in the garden this morning......

DSC_4367 by Glynn Hobbs, on Flickr

DSC_4345 by Glynn Hobbs, on Flickr

DSC_4295 by Glynn Hobbs, on Flickr

DSC_4287 by Glynn Hobbs, on Flickr

DSC_4279 by Glynn Hobbs, on Flickr

nre

533 posts

271 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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Some great shots there Glynn, particularly like no. 2.

brown hairstreak butterfly by Nigel, on Flickr

bee on salvia by Nigel, on Flickr

hoverfly on rudbekia by Nigel, on Flickr

Fallingup

1,550 posts

99 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Resolutionary

1,260 posts

172 months

Monday 8th October 2018
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My latest pet acquisition cleaning itself:

Rhombodera sp by RA, on Flickr

Smollet

10,609 posts

191 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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Using Helicon stacking(16 images) with Canon 6D + Sigma 150, F2.8 macro lens



LongQ

13,864 posts

234 months

Saturday 13th October 2018
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Smollet said:
Using Helicon stacking(16 images) with Canon 6D + Sigma 150, F2.8 macro lens


I rather like that but my eye was instantly drawn to what look like shadows in the background and they slightly detract from the overall result IMO. Mainly because I can't unsee them.

They should be easy enough to edit out with several approaches possible after which the image would be top class in my opinion.

I suspect they are real shadows but "enhanced" by the stacking process.

Apologies for the critique at the beginning of the post but, imo, there is so much to be gained by a few minutes of processing that I though I should make the suggestion to see if anyone else agreed.

Smollet

10,609 posts

191 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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LongQ said:
I rather like that but my eye was instantly drawn to what look like shadows in the background and they slightly detract from the overall result IMO. Mainly because I can't unsee them.

They should be easy enough to edit out with several approaches possible after which the image would be top class in my opinion.

I suspect they are real shadows but "enhanced" by the stacking process.

Apologies for the critique at the beginning of the post but, imo, there is so much to be gained by a few minutes of processing that I though I should make the suggestion to see if anyone else agreed.
All constructive criticism welcome. I’m new to stacking having only started on Friday. Hopefully I’ll improve with time. How would I remove the background shadows?

LongQ

13,864 posts

234 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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Smollet said:
LongQ said:
I rather like that but my eye was instantly drawn to what look like shadows in the background and they slightly detract from the overall result IMO. Mainly because I can't unsee them.

They should be easy enough to edit out with several approaches possible after which the image would be top class in my opinion.

I suspect they are real shadows but "enhanced" by the stacking process.

Apologies for the critique at the beginning of the post but, imo, there is so much to be gained by a few minutes of processing that I though I should make the suggestion to see if anyone else agreed.
All constructive criticism welcome. I’m new to stacking having only started on Friday. Hopefully I’ll improve with time. How would I remove the background shadows?
Within the stacking process I would have no idea unless the tool you are using offers a specific facility or approach for that sort of requirement.

I suspect it might be possible but tricky to reliably eliminate the shadows at the point of shooting.

So that leaves some post processing of the image in its current state.

There are probably a number of techniques possible but I would guess that a healing layer adjustment could blend the residual shadows with the background OR one might well be able to darken the background to match the shadow lines for this particular image composition. Your choice whether to go with a dark or not so dark background.

The best way of making the edits (there are likely several options and maybe more than one type of edit required depending upon how critical you might want to be with the result) probably depends mostly on which editor you are using and what facilities it offers.

If you are already into editing then just treat the already stacked image as an original that you want to enhance a little and take it from there. Some sort of tool that allows you merge a range of "colours" or exposure into a single but common colour/exposure without having to undertake tricky "shading and burning" via some sort of hand crafted layer might be a good option for this particular image.

ETA: are the dark parts shadow or shadow aggregation from multiple images or some sort of artifact of subject movement between frames?

If it is movement related can the stacking process allow you to eliminate the frame(s) that cause the "shadow" or, perhaps better, the parts of the frames where there is undesirable movement?


Edited by LongQ on Sunday 14th October 12:49

Smollet

10,609 posts

191 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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LongQ said:
So that leaves some post processing of the image in its current state.

There are probably a number of techniques possible but I would guess that a healing layer adjustment could blend the residual shadows with the background OR one might well be able to darken the background to match the shadow lines for this particular image composition. Your choice whether to go with a dark or not so dark background.

The best way of making the edits (there are likely several options and maybe more than one type of edit required depending upon how critical you might want to be with the result) probably depends mostly on which editor you are using and what facilities it offers.



Edited by LongQ on Sunday 14th October 12:49
Using Lightroom CC I’ve erased the shadows and upped the black. A better result I feel. What do you think?



DibblyDobbler

11,273 posts

198 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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Smollet said:
Using Lightroom CC I’ve erased the shadows and upped the black. A better result I feel. What do you think?


Awesome - love it clap

ps - please treat yourself to a Flickr account and ditch thumbsnap smile

LongQ

13,864 posts

234 months

Sunday 14th October 2018
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DibblyDobbler said:
Smollet said:
Using Lightroom CC I’ve erased the shadows and upped the black. A better result I feel. What do you think?


Awesome - love it clap

ps - please treat yourself to a Flickr account and ditch thumbsnap smile
Yup, I too like that.

But here's a challenge ...

If you look at the background of your original rendition there is quite pleasing dappled dark grey effect. I have no idea what you background was and whether the dappling is a result og the stacking process or was original to the background. You can, for example, get rolls of backing paper for studio work that can give a similar effect.

So as a further challenge that should be possibly using LightRoom, going back to your original image - try to change the bits of dark "shadow" to match the dappled background charcoal colour. I would thing the healing brush tool should be able to do it. But you could also try the opposite adjustment for what did when going black. Now that may take some extra effort compared to going black so don't necessarily spend the time making it perfect - just shifting the "shadows" in the right direction so they almost merge in should be enough to understand how such a change should be possible. Another option to play with when the right image comes along.

Long nights are a good time to work on these experiments.



Smollet

10,609 posts

191 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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LongQ said:
Yup, I too like that.

But here's a challenge ...

If you look at the background of your original rendition there is quite pleasing dappled dark grey effect. I have no idea what you background was and whether the dappling is a result og the stacking process or was original to the background. You can, for example, get rolls of backing paper for studio work that can give a similar effect.

So as a further challenge that should be possibly using LightRoom, going back to your original image - try to change the bits of dark "shadow" to match the dappled background charcoal colour. I would thing the healing brush tool should be able to do it. But you could also try the opposite adjustment for what did when going black. Now that may take some extra effort compared to going black so don't necessarily spend the time making it perfect - just shifting the "shadows" in the right direction so they almost merge in should be enough to understand how such a change should be possible. Another option to play with when the right image comes along.

Long nights are a good time to work on these experiments.
Thanks. iirc the back ground was a dark grey sheet. Long nights are best spent in the pub but I'll see what I can come up with.biggrin

nre

533 posts

271 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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Some late October bee action before the temperature drops in the next few days.

Honey bee on salvia by Nigel, on Flickr

Flying honey bee on mahonia by Nigel, on Flickr

rich888

2,610 posts

200 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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DibblyDobbler said:
Look forward to seeing some results Rich thumbup
Have been trying very hard to find suitable subjects and chanced upon these two characters who were out enjoying the sunshine... smile




DibblyDobbler

11,273 posts

198 months

Thursday 8th November 2018
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rich888 said:
DibblyDobbler said:
Look forward to seeing some results Rich thumbup
Have been trying very hard to find suitable subjects and chanced upon these two characters who were out enjoying the sunshine... smile



Well done Rich thumbup If you want any advice on settings etc ask away smile

rich888

2,610 posts

200 months

Thursday 8th November 2018
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Cheers DD,

I've now realise that it's very important to have plenty of light on the subject, along with a wide depth of field, so shooting at f/2.8 is way too narrow as can be seen on the photo of the ladybird which I took at f/5, whereas the photo of the bee was taken at f/10 which is better.

I realise that I ought to be hot-linking from the likes of Flickr but I've been experimenting with these pics so haven't uploaded them onto there yet, plus I'm wary of going over the 1000 photo limit for the time being.

Have cropped a couple of other pics down as shown below:


1/160th f/5 ISO 1000


1/125 f/10 ISO 1600

DibblyDobbler

11,273 posts

198 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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Spot on Rich - depth of field is the key for macro so as small an aperture as you can get whilst maintaining an adequate shutter speed is the trick. Most guys use flash to solve this little conundrum - of course then you’ll need diffusers to stop the light being too harsh...

Smollet

10,609 posts

191 months

Monday 12th November 2018
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Canon 6D with 150:Sigma 2.8 macro. F2,8. ISO 320. 1/100
Using Helicon remote and Helicon Focus.
Both stacked with approx 50/60 images each.