Seat Belt Mod

[v8s4me]

glenrobbo said:

Link?

v8s4me said:

7/16th" RH female rod end XFR7 from http://mcgillmotorsports.co.uk/

Reasonable price and good service.

[mk1fan]

2 of these;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/380068477121?ssPageName=...

A pack of these;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/380827707055?ssPageName=...

And a pack of these;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300681795721?ssPageName=...

Correction £16 worth of goods.

I used some threadlock too.

Any mods to seatbelts are done at the owners risk.

[phillpot]

A pack of these: nice bolts

and a pack of these: nice washers...

[glenrobbo]

v8s4me said:

glenrobbo said:

Link?

v8s4me said:

7/16th" RH female rod end XFR7 from http://mcgillmotorsports.co.uk/

Reasonable price and good service.

Thanks Joe et al,
Sorry, I wasn't paying attention
I've been meaning to do this mod for ages, ever since you showed me at Stratford last year. Hopefully I'll have it done for Stratford this year

[mk1fan]

Should be able to get it done by the 28th!

[Scoobimax]

Excellent - i too have been wanting to do this for ages so will be ordering some bits

[greymrj]

WARNING: hope that got your attention!!!

Take care, the rose joins referred to on ebay are CFR spec; carbon steel, specifically for applications which do NOT have a heavy load. These are NOT suitable for seat belt anchorages.

Look back on the thread and you will see the correct ones are XFR, which is the correct high performance spec. From the same company, £21.00 incl, (per pair) delivered

Edited by greymrj on Friday 14th February 18:50

[Scoobimax]

greymrj said:

WARNING: hope that got your attention!!!

Take care, the rose joins referred to on ebay are CFR spec; carbon steel, specifically for applications which do NOT have a heavy load. These are NOT suitable for seat belt anchorages.

Look back on the thread and you will see the correct ones are XFR, which is the correct high performance spec. From the same company, £21.00 incl, delivered

Cheers - this one I presume: XFR link

Max

[phillpot]

Even if declared and agreed with your insurers I think the Rose Joint idea looks a bit "home made" and just possibly, should the worst happen, an independent assessor may not be impressed?

This version however looks far more "factory" and would possibly go un-noticed by all but the most fastidious assessor. All IMHO

clicky for full description (scroll down to "seat Belt Mod" on left hand side)

[greymrj]

Hi Max, those are the ones, the XFR spec, my price was of course for a pair. I should have made that clear.

Hi Mike, I have got no problem with the DIY approach (provided you keep evidence that the steel is an appropriate spec), but I would not see any problem with an insurer being satisfied with a high strength component acceptable for race scrutineering, and from a well established supplier. I haven't notified mine yet but I will be notifying them of a couple of upgrades when the current programme of work is done.

[Scoobimax]

greymrj said:

Hi Max, those are the ones, the XFR spec, my price was of course for a pair. I should have made that clear.

Hi Mike, I have got no problem with the DIY approach (provided you keep evidence that the steel is an appropriate spec), but I would not see any problem with an insurer being satisfied with a high strength component acceptable for race scrutineering, and from a well established supplier. I haven't notified mine yet but I will be notifying them of a couple of upgrades when the current programme of work is done.

I've got a contact who can make these so I'll post a separate thread to gauge interest.

Max

[mk1fan]

greymrj said:

WARNING: hope that got your attention!!!

Take care, the rose joins referred to on ebay are CFR spec; carbon steel, specifically for applications which do NOT have a heavy load. These are NOT suitable for seat belt anchorages.

Look back on the thread and you will see the correct ones are XFR, which is the correct high performance spec. From the same company, £21.00 incl, (per pair) delivered

Edited by greymrj on Friday 14th February 18:50

Is there really that 'much' force in volved in seat belts that a [effectively] m12 size steel fitting can't cope with?

ETA: The rose joint does allow the seatbelt to 'self adjust' to suit different people. The other mod, while still sorting the pull of the belt, won't give the movement.

Edited by mk1fan on Saturday 15th February 12:59

[glenrobbo]

mk1fan said:

greymrj said:

WARNING: hope that got your attention!!!

Take care, the rose joins referred to on ebay are CFR spec; carbon steel, specifically for applications which do NOT have a heavy load. These are NOT suitable for seat belt anchorages.

Look back on the thread and you will see the correct ones are XFR, which is the correct high performance spec. From the same company, £21.00 incl, (per pair) delivered

Edited by greymrj on Friday 14th February 18:50

Is there really that 'much' force in volved in seat belts that a [effectively] m12 size steel fitting can't cope with?

ETA: The rose joint does allow the seatbelt to 'self adjust' to suit different people. The other mod, while still sorting the pull of the belt, won't give the movement.

Edited by mk1fan on Saturday 15th February 12:59

McGill's data for the CF7 type rod end shows max radial load of 9150 lbf.
If you divide this by the average male body weight, you get a figure of 45.75, so in theory, it should withstand the forces involved in a 45G impact. ( or 30G if you are an American )
How hard are you expecting to crash?

[Ragtop]

mk1fan said:

The rose joint does allow the seatbelt to 'self adjust' to suit different people. The other mod, while still sorting the pull of the belt, won't give the movement.

For what it's worth, When I got my first S, the belt used to snag at least every other time I used it. I fitted the 'other mod' six years ago, and I don't think the belt has ever snagged since.

G

[mk1fan]

I think you've mis-read what I put. Both mods stop the belt catching / snagging. The rose joint gives some side to side play that I don't see the other mod giving.

As for the crashing ' G', its an S not a Griff

[v8s4me]

Mine are the XFR7 spec ones. 7 1/6th" RH female rod ends are the ones to ask for if you want to go this route.

[v8s4me]

phillpot said:

A pack of these: nice bolts

and a pack of these: nice washers...

If you have any left over can I buy a pair of bolts & washers off you?

[AutoAndy]

I could be interested if les than 15 quid, like my viper stripes and my .......new. Splitter....

[SJS357]

v8s4me said:

phillpot said:

A pack of these: nice bolts

and a pack of these: nice washers...

If you have any left over can I buy a pair of bolts & washers off you?

Same for me too please Mike.
If you have any spares.

[phillpot]

SJS357 said:

v8s4me said:

phillpot said:

A pack of these: nice bolts

and a pack of these: nice washers...

If you have any left over can I buy a pair of bolts & washers off you?

Same for me too please Mike.
If you have any spares.

Buy your own, got mine years ago