help me I cant swim
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ok, now that JSG has put his curse on the summer and its raining again I have been able to assess whether or not my car stays dry. short answer is no.
the passenger footwell has a cm worth of water in it after last nights downpour. Having looked at the bible last time i replaced the grommets with new ones and watersealed these but its obviously not that.
Being more observant this time around, it seems as though the water comes in whilst the car is stationary so its obviously something other than the drainage holes in the floor. Anyone offer any clues? My only thoughts are some sort of drainage pipe from the top of the bonnet that has somehow got misdirected and ended up pouring it inside the car.
anyone help? if only with a pair of flippers
the passenger footwell has a cm worth of water in it after last nights downpour. Having looked at the bible last time i replaced the grommets with new ones and watersealed these but its obviously not that.
Being more observant this time around, it seems as though the water comes in whilst the car is stationary so its obviously something other than the drainage holes in the floor. Anyone offer any clues? My only thoughts are some sort of drainage pipe from the top of the bonnet that has somehow got misdirected and ended up pouring it inside the car.
anyone help? if only with a pair of flippers
I kept a pair of Goldfish in my S3C, they were very happy there.
Leak is almost certainly through the bulkhead where the various wires/cables travel through, put a little upside down 'V' above them all in silicone sealer and fill the holes with it.
You can also try Fabsil on the roof though I'm fairly sure my roof never leaked.
Leak is almost certainly through the bulkhead where the various wires/cables travel through, put a little upside down 'V' above them all in silicone sealer and fill the holes with it.
You can also try Fabsil on the roof though I'm fairly sure my roof never leaked.
There should be ton's of stuff in the archive about leaks, don't just search on the S because of course the same applies for the Griffith/Chimaera.
That said, I had an S3c for 3 1/2 years and it was pretty well water tight. So first Fabsil/Thompsons the roof, even if you think the water is not coming in from the top it should be done. Use the paint on stuff not the spray and decide between Fabsil from a camping shop or Thompsons Weather Seal (for brickwork) from B&Q. Another tip re' the roof, mine leaked once when I was parked on a steep nose down slope, turned out the water gathered in the centre between the two halves of the roof and dripped on the gear lever area! Park level or nose up and it would be ok! So roof waterproofed check out the holes where the wiper spindles come through, a bit of sealant around these helps. Incidentally I swear by something called "Seek'n Seal" made by Comma, it's great for drizzling into tight gaps and it flows in by osmosis (?) and seals the gap - it's made for sealing around leaky windscreens. What about the holes where the bonnet catches latch down, I think there should be drain tubes coming down from these but I am not sure. Other than that seal ALL the pipes, tubes and cables going through the bulkhead. But if it leaked when it parked then it must be something coming down rather than spray being flung up. What about the door seals, any chance that water may be geting in through them? What about the drain holes in the bottom of your doors, water will run down the outside of the windows and needs to get out underneath the door, worth a look. Good luck, Rich...
That said, I had an S3c for 3 1/2 years and it was pretty well water tight. So first Fabsil/Thompsons the roof, even if you think the water is not coming in from the top it should be done. Use the paint on stuff not the spray and decide between Fabsil from a camping shop or Thompsons Weather Seal (for brickwork) from B&Q. Another tip re' the roof, mine leaked once when I was parked on a steep nose down slope, turned out the water gathered in the centre between the two halves of the roof and dripped on the gear lever area! Park level or nose up and it would be ok! So roof waterproofed check out the holes where the wiper spindles come through, a bit of sealant around these helps. Incidentally I swear by something called "Seek'n Seal" made by Comma, it's great for drizzling into tight gaps and it flows in by osmosis (?) and seals the gap - it's made for sealing around leaky windscreens. What about the holes where the bonnet catches latch down, I think there should be drain tubes coming down from these but I am not sure. Other than that seal ALL the pipes, tubes and cables going through the bulkhead. But if it leaked when it parked then it must be something coming down rather than spray being flung up. What about the door seals, any chance that water may be geting in through them? What about the drain holes in the bottom of your doors, water will run down the outside of the windows and needs to get out underneath the door, worth a look. Good luck, Rich...
Schnozz
-Haven't we been here before!
Here's some places I found for water ingress on me S2
1) Windscreen Surround...collects on the dash and drenches the passenger when first pulling away
2) Wiper mounts...sits in these and seeps through, down the drive cable and through the top of the passenger footwell
3) Doors...weather strip is tat as are the drainage holes in bottom. Water enters via top of door / window interface and fills up around the lower hinge bolt, drains into the sills and collects in those 'trough' thingys I mentioned (the bits where the extinguisher may / may not be positioned)
...the drainage holes in the door are bybassed by the water via a lip at the outer door skin bottom
4) Bulkhead...yep, all them cable and bolt entry points need sealing
5) Side lamp repeaters...perished seals are another entry point and often overlooked
My roof is sound so can't comment
Cheers
Pete
PS learn to swim like this little fella
An essential life skill for TVR ownership 
>> Edited by pete_w on Wednesday 31st July 11:50
-Haven't we been here before!
Here's some places I found for water ingress on me S2
1) Windscreen Surround...collects on the dash and drenches the passenger when first pulling away
2) Wiper mounts...sits in these and seeps through, down the drive cable and through the top of the passenger footwell
3) Doors...weather strip is tat as are the drainage holes in bottom. Water enters via top of door / window interface and fills up around the lower hinge bolt, drains into the sills and collects in those 'trough' thingys I mentioned (the bits where the extinguisher may / may not be positioned)
...the drainage holes in the door are bybassed by the water via a lip at the outer door skin bottom 4) Bulkhead...yep, all them cable and bolt entry points need sealing
5) Side lamp repeaters...perished seals are another entry point and often overlooked
My roof is sound so can't comment
Cheers
Pete
PS learn to swim like this little fella
An essential life skill for TVR ownership >> Edited by pete_w on Wednesday 31st July 11:50
we have been here before Pete I think I will be here again too!
that gives me something to get me started. problem is I really need to have a good look when its raining to try and work out where it comes from!
carpets are getting ruined anyways so thinking maybe replace the flooring with aluminium race look flooring and then it doesnt matter how much water comes in!
I think I will be here again too! that gives me something to get me started. problem is I really need to have a good look when its raining to try and work out where it comes from!
carpets are getting ruined anyways so thinking maybe replace the flooring with aluminium race look flooring and then it doesnt matter how much water comes in!
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carpets are getting ruined anyways so thinking maybe replace the flooring with aluminium race look flooring and then it doesnt matter how much water comes in!
I drove round for months with the Driver's side carpet out to save it rotting !!
Trouble is you just end up rotting the backs of your trousers instead.
>> Edited by keirangrogan on Wednesday 31st July 13:26
Shnozz, I fixed my leaks by cutting small vertical strips out of the door rubber.....sounds counter-productive I know, but basically, what was happening was that water would run down the line of the door seal on the inside of where the door frame closes against the seal...if you see what I mean. By cutting little slots in the door rubber (in line with the diagonal grooves in the door frame if you're a perfectionist!) I created an escape path for this water which used to dive over the door shut flange for the door rubber and into the car.
What gave it away was that the carpet on the side of the car underneath the door rubber was always wet when the footwells got damp.
Just a thought, hope it helps......
>> Edited by chin up on Wednesday 31st July 15:31
What gave it away was that the carpet on the side of the car underneath the door rubber was always wet when the footwells got damp.
Just a thought, hope it helps......
>> Edited by chin up on Wednesday 31st July 15:31
I bought a half-cover which I use when parked overnight or at work through the day. Its surprisingly effective. Driving all I get in mine is a dribble from the rear of the centre join between the roof panels. Now there's hostage to fortune..I just bet ol'Murphy 'll have me on my way home tonight..
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