S1 rebuild....not one for the purist

S1 rebuild....not one for the purist

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DamianS3

1,803 posts

183 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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As I said good work.. imho the 2 best things you can do to the s are the LSD and then better mirrors for parking when you can't see out the back screen.

Mx5 work well unless your TVR had electric but I think yours pre dates the xj220 mirror option wink

I'm running fiesta mk6/7 items.

Damian

Alan 1209

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157 posts

96 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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Bit late to change mirrors, the whole thing is in respray now. but thanks for the info.

DJR 7

1,413 posts

258 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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Mx5 work well unless your TVR had electric but I think yours pre dates the xj220 mirror option wink

Damian
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The next time someone points out that my mirrors are from a Citroen I'm going to use the xj220 as reference hehe

TVR-Stu

813 posts

200 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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DJR 7 said:
The next time someone points out that my mirrors are from a Citroen I'm going to use the xj220 as reference hehe

You can add to that, Marcos and Lotus (a version of the esprit). Anyone know of any others?
Oops! How could I forget the McLaren F1!


Edited by TVR-Stu on Wednesday 11th January 16:38

DamianS3

1,803 posts

183 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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I think the F1 had VW Corrado door mirrors ?

Cheers Damian S3

TVR-Stu

813 posts

200 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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DamianS3 said:
I think the F1 had VW Corrado door mirrors ?

Cheers Damian S3
I think they were a bit like 'our' cars and the factory used what ever was available wink
This one appears to have Citroen mirrors.


Sorry OP for drifting off topic!

Alan 1209

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157 posts

96 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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No Prob, nothing to add for a few days. Body away being painted, First coat of POR15 on the chassis. .
Another coat of this then a couple of layers of black to return it to the original colour.
In the meantime I have to fit a tow bar to the Volvo. And maybe i'll do a bit of work work as well.

Alan 1209

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157 posts

96 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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I forgot the 1st rule of TVR.
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Never, and I mean Never take one out in the rain.
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Alan Whitaker

2,054 posts

183 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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Nice red paintwork, best colour for the TVR S

Alan

glenrobbo

35,293 posts

151 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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I prefer my reds a little more on the blueish side... even though red matches my eyes. wink

Alan, I still think the original colour of your S1 was perfect.
But I'm still looking forward to the unveiling ceremony of your radically different beast, whatever the colour.

Alan 1209

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157 posts

96 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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Sports cars have to be red. Its the rules.

AutoAndy

2,265 posts

216 months

Saturday 14th January 2017
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Alan 1209 said:
Sports cars have to be red. Its the rules.
....if they are from Italy.....but if British, they should be...mmmmm, I wonder

..anyway, yours looks good despite that
smile

Edited by AutoAndy on Saturday 14th January 23:21

Alan 1209

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157 posts

96 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/59njt0gsxic8r87/Chassis....
This is where I'm going with the bonnet hinge, the hinges are early ford Ka boot hinges and have some assistance from gas springs, I've left these out video of the for reasons of sanity. This gives an 80deg opening angle and lifts the bonnet by some 40mm at around 60deg opening.

Alan Whitaker

2,054 posts

183 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Like the idea, look forward to seeing it on the car.

greymrj

3,316 posts

205 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Alan 1209 said:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/59njt0gsxic8r87/Chassis....
the hinges are early ford Ka boot hinges and have some assistance from gas springs,
The design principles look good Alan, although given the weight and twisting moment of that bonnet it is going to need to be beefier than the Kia boot one surely? Wont the legs deflect and the pressed joints on the Kia hinges then fail?
Love the drawings you clever bugger, when I did my kinematics it all had to be done on drawing boards and laborious mock ups.

Alan Whitaker

2,054 posts

183 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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You may be right, not looked at the hinges so they could be beefy and up to the job. I went for 12mm steel plate and 25mm rose joint wit a 25mm thread bar
2 M12 bolts to the chassis gives me up / down, left / right, in & out

Alan


Alan 1209

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157 posts

96 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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greymrj said:
The design principles look good Alan, although given the weight and twisting moment of that bonnet it is going to need to be beefier than the Kia boot one surely? Wont the legs deflect and the pressed joints on the Kia hinges then fail?
Love the drawings you clever bugger, when I did my kinematics it all had to be done on drawing boards and laborious mock ups.
Thanks both, I use Solidworks as a design package. I was always a st draughtsman, CAD set me free...

Alan, Did you say you designed power stations? an m12 bolt has a Pnom shear of 13.8Kn, or for the non engineers 1407 kilogram force, 1.4 tonnes. so 2 of them should just about hold your bonnet onhehe

The Ka hinges have 4 10mm hinge pins and a restricted sideways movement when shut, the legs are 4mm thick, and the base 3.2, I've hung my 81.5 kilo carcass off an open hinge without causing it any trouble other than a bit of flex, nothing better than a bit of empiric data! The gas spring goes slightly over centre to apply a small closing force. Side to side is covered by slots in the base plate, the up/down by slots in the hinge plate and fwd/reverse by slots in the bonnet rib. And i don't plan to have the bonnet open all that often. If needed I'll put 2 stays in. This is supposed to be a light weight sports car after all.

Alan Whitaker

2,054 posts

183 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Hi Alan.
I ended up with 2 stays, twister with only 1

mk1fan

10,523 posts

226 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Those hinges look very similar to the Escort Cabrio ones used one the Tamora - and later Chims or Griefs I think. I happen to have a spare so will have a looky looky.

Alan 1209

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157 posts

96 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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mk1fan said:
Those hinges look very similar to the Escort Cabrio ones used one the Tamora - and later Chims or Griefs I think. I happen to have a spare so will have a looky looky.
they have been slightly modified, but ford are good at multi use so may well be. They are chunkier the bonnet hinges on my Volvo, and that aint no lightweight.smile