Genuine TVR enthusiasts please be aware
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I had a 99 chim a few years back 50K miles and chassis looked "OK"
The guy who bought wasn't sure so we came to an agreement and split the difference on a body lift.
One of the out riggers completly gone............. Willow sports cars (straight 6 as was at Newark)
The S is a lovely car, just wanted to make people aware of "what" they may be buying.
I had priced a chassis up at £2K,
TVR's are my hobby and not a business to me........ I love owning them and driving them, Currently run a T350 and looking for a chim as a project ........ more regular all year round drive........... yes I will be keeping the T350.
As for the milage, it was a little less than 150K so why it was taken back to exactly the same as the last MOT I don't know as 132K ......... 140K or 150K does it matter on a car of this age........?? its more the condition, whats been done etc etc.
the guy who had it before me had it a long time, you will see my wife's name on the log book for the past 6 or so months.
Yes I'm sure some one will buy it and have many miles of pleaseure, the S's are a lovely car
The guy who bought wasn't sure so we came to an agreement and split the difference on a body lift.
One of the out riggers completly gone............. Willow sports cars (straight 6 as was at Newark)
The S is a lovely car, just wanted to make people aware of "what" they may be buying.
I had priced a chassis up at £2K,
TVR's are my hobby and not a business to me........ I love owning them and driving them, Currently run a T350 and looking for a chim as a project ........ more regular all year round drive........... yes I will be keeping the T350.
As for the milage, it was a little less than 150K so why it was taken back to exactly the same as the last MOT I don't know as 132K ......... 140K or 150K does it matter on a car of this age........?? its more the condition, whats been done etc etc.
the guy who had it before me had it a long time, you will see my wife's name on the log book for the past 6 or so months.
Yes I'm sure some one will buy it and have many miles of pleaseure, the S's are a lovely car
If this car has been clocked I wouldn't touch it no matter what its current condition or any other of his cars for sale whatever the price!! 
Whilst it is now easy to check the MOT's from the DVLA website for any car, unless it has been into a reputable garage for a service (or at least work where the mileage is recorded by them) you are relying on the honesty of the seller regarding the true mileage. However, as whizz suggests, what is the point of clocking this S back to 132k from 150k as it will make b*gger all difference to the value and, if discovered, as this is now apparent, will damn any and all your cars for sale and may lead to your prosecution!!!
Whilst it is now easy to check the MOT's from the DVLA website for any car, unless it has been into a reputable garage for a service (or at least work where the mileage is recorded by them) you are relying on the honesty of the seller regarding the true mileage. However, as whizz suggests, what is the point of clocking this S back to 132k from 150k as it will make b*gger all difference to the value and, if discovered, as this is now apparent, will damn any and all your cars for sale and may lead to your prosecution!!!
Regarding the mileage, since it is exactly the same as 6 yrs ago (no MoT in between), it could be just an error.
The tester may not have changed the mileage when entering it, or forgotten to write down what it was and just used the previous entry. Either way would still be unprofessional IMHO.
The tester may not have changed the mileage when entering it, or forgotten to write down what it was and just used the previous entry. Either way would still be unprofessional IMHO.
ianwayne said:
Regarding the mileage, since it is exactly the same as 6 yrs ago (no MoT in between), it could be just an error.
The tester may not have changed the mileage when entering it, or forgotten to write down what it was and just used the previous entry. Either way would still be unprofessional IMHO.
If the mileage is exactly the same, it suggests the speedo's not working.The tester may not have changed the mileage when entering it, or forgotten to write down what it was and just used the previous entry. Either way would still be unprofessional IMHO.
ianwayne said:
Whizz65 said it was reading just under 150k when he sold it though.
I've often been mistaken when trying to remember the mileage on cars I used to own years ago, would be completely understandable if the OP is indeed mistaken.If not, who knows? Something's not right as in the ad he says the mileage is very close to what it was in the last MoT. No mate, it's EXACTLY the same!
All he's got to do is get some pics up of the chassis underneath in detail, and he's away. It's not an expensive car if the chassis doesn't need anything doing for a couple of years.
But the OP only sold it a couple of months ago so I would expect him to be correct with his recollection of the (approx) mileage! Whenever I sell a car I always produce 2 copies of a bill of sale with the mileage noted on it which is signed by both parties; a bit OCD maybe but it would help in this situation!
A picture of the chassis won't tell you a lot (as well you know Richard) and, as you and others have stated, only a body lift will reveal the full story but it may have been tarted up with a wire brush and tin of Hammerite that a close inspection will reveal.
Maybe a photo of the Odometer would help if anyone is seriously considering buying this before wasting time going to have a look??
A picture of the chassis won't tell you a lot (as well you know Richard) and, as you and others have stated, only a body lift will reveal the full story but it may have been tarted up with a wire brush and tin of Hammerite that a close inspection will reveal.
Maybe a photo of the Odometer would help if anyone is seriously considering buying this before wasting time going to have a look??
Ah, I misread it as he sold it ages ago.
Does seem a bit fishy yes, but could still be an innocent explanation. It's probably pointless us all going on about it unless someone interested actually goes to see it.
A picture of the chassis in detail is often enough for me to guesstimate what the rest of it looks like. You can see enough on an S to know if it's in trouble or not, though the extent of the 'trouble' can only really be assessed once the chassis' been shot blasted. It's the Chimaeras and Griffiths that you struggle with a bit more.
Does seem a bit fishy yes, but could still be an innocent explanation. It's probably pointless us all going on about it unless someone interested actually goes to see it.
A picture of the chassis in detail is often enough for me to guesstimate what the rest of it looks like. You can see enough on an S to know if it's in trouble or not, though the extent of the 'trouble' can only really be assessed once the chassis' been shot blasted. It's the Chimaeras and Griffiths that you struggle with a bit more.
Just a little update on this. The seller is not the guy who purchased it from wizz; I have been told that the mileage is correct as he has the advert from the guy who originally bought it from wiz. He has also told me that welding was done on the chassis and it was not as bad as thought, I don’t have any details of the work done but think the guy is genuine on his reply. If you are looking for a TVR S to get you going I think might be worth a look.
I am not posting the reply but if you want to PM me for details.
Alan
I am not posting the reply but if you want to PM me for details.
Alan
I don't want to say anything bad about the car as it may all be OK now, but I do have the bill of sale and lots of pics..... along with lots of details when I bought the car, so if anyone wants more information then please ask, I have had TVR's for over 10 years, prior to that an MGB for 21 years, so I do know a little bit about cars............ if the out riggers had been done then why does the add not say so.
It was inspected by a guy who use to work for TVR and then set up on his own, what he doesn't know about TVR's.....!! and he told me the chassis was very poor before I bought it as it had been in his workshop for an inspection.
I'll leave you all to make your own minds up just wanted to make people aware of what "they may" be buying,
If its all sorted and a good car then great, but he's a dealer so would he have spent more than he needs to to sell the car? again its up to you to decide not for me to say as I'm not in a position to comment am I?
It was inspected by a guy who use to work for TVR and then set up on his own, what he doesn't know about TVR's.....!! and he told me the chassis was very poor before I bought it as it had been in his workshop for an inspection.
I'll leave you all to make your own minds up just wanted to make people aware of what "they may" be buying,
If its all sorted and a good car then great, but he's a dealer so would he have spent more than he needs to to sell the car? again its up to you to decide not for me to say as I'm not in a position to comment am I?
It's had outriggers, must be recently. The rest of the chassis and wishbones, bolts washers the lot has has red paint thrown at it, no prep just slapped allover it. It's a mess.
Overall it's a car that could become very nice but a complete re build would be needed for that. It's tired and whoever has painted the chassis has no clue or no care or no bloody idea.
Anyone who knows Tvr will offer 2.5 k for it max as I didn't think the engine looked or sounded that great either.
Someone asked me to look at this car. I walked away quickly rather than argue the toss.
Its all there, chassis looked ok but you have to ask why has the chassis been re painted in situ with nothing removed and a right mess ensues.
Overall it's a car that could become very nice but a complete re build would be needed for that. It's tired and whoever has painted the chassis has no clue or no care or no bloody idea.
Anyone who knows Tvr will offer 2.5 k for it max as I didn't think the engine looked or sounded that great either.
Someone asked me to look at this car. I walked away quickly rather than argue the toss.
Its all there, chassis looked ok but you have to ask why has the chassis been re painted in situ with nothing removed and a right mess ensues.
Thank you Classic Chim, someone who speaks some sense.
This is exactly what is required, a full rebuild. As for someone who “paints over rust” short term quick fix and a MOT inspector should have picked this up.
Yes the engine had an oil leak from high up……… but it did make good oil pressure
This is going to be my last post on the subject as all I wanted to do was stop someone who dreamed of TVR ownership buying this thinking wow cheap TVR only to find huge bills in 12 months time, then saying TVR’s are not so good….. when they are great cars
This is exactly what is required, a full rebuild. As for someone who “paints over rust” short term quick fix and a MOT inspector should have picked this up.
Yes the engine had an oil leak from high up……… but it did make good oil pressure
This is going to be my last post on the subject as all I wanted to do was stop someone who dreamed of TVR ownership buying this thinking wow cheap TVR only to find huge bills in 12 months time, then saying TVR’s are not so good….. when they are great cars
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