POWER STEERING TO FIT TO S TYPE. SUPPLIERS

POWER STEERING TO FIT TO S TYPE. SUPPLIERS

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greymrj

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3,316 posts

205 months

Friday 18th January 2019
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Hope you dont mind but I thought this warranted a new post as I am talking about professionally supplied systems. This came up on Facebook recently. I confess I am not sure just how much has been done already so please feel free to add any links that would add to the information available.
I did undertake to contact two companies one who supplies and fits, the other who will supply in kit form. For now I am going to concentrate on the latter. The Company, DCEMotorsports have, I believe been mentioned in Sprint in connection with Chimaera systems. The costs of the kit does seem realistic and, if the experience in MGB power steering conversions is anything to go by, could well be largely recovered in enhanced value of the car.
I have no prior knowledge of the company. They have operations in the US and UK . The UK base is in Maldon Essex. The ideal solution as far as I can see would be for someone closer (regrettably I am in Lancashire) to act as a guinea pig and to share the information, in detail on PH. The issue for us is likely to be how to make a strengthening bracket tailored to our car which might be manufactured in small numbers (Is Richard Kitchen watching!!), and that needs carefully dimensioned drawings.

Hello Richard,
Please see attached information on our new Microsteer EPAS system. This will work well on the TVR. I have also attached an image of a larger system that has been fitted onto a Chimaera, our system is smaller so should be easy to fit in a similar position.
The system has all the parts you will need other than a speed sensor which I have listed separately below. The speed sensor is only required if you want to make it speed sensitive (if the car has some form of digital speed sensor already then you can share this signal otherwise a speed sensor can be fitted to look at a bolt head on the prop shaft with a simple bracket).
The system simply requires a section of steering column to be removed then a bracket created so the motor unit can be installed in line. Connect the battery and you have instant, tuneable power steering.
EPAS200 Microsteer Kit £665.00
EPAS200W Speed Sensor £39.00
All prices exclude shipping and VAT.
Please let me know if you need any further information?
With Kind Regards
David Cunliffe
Director / CEO
DC Electronics
www.dcemotorsport.com

mentall

453 posts

131 months

Friday 18th January 2019
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There's a press release on p7 of January's 'Sprint', with 5% off for TVRCC members until July.

greymrj

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3,316 posts

205 months

Friday 18th January 2019
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Thanks, I hadn't seen it. Trying to assess interest and see if we can establish goodwill with this firm. But there may be others, I simply do not know what is out there. It is a very long way for me but I could go to Burghley and on from there! I want to see the issues in reality and see how good they are to deal with. I know it sounds a lot of money but I just had the K Jetronic components on my 2.8 overhauled....it sounds cheaper now!!

Alan Whitaker

2,054 posts

183 months

Friday 18th January 2019
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This is a good place to try Easysteer EFI power steering

www.simonebirchall.co.uk

LLantrisant

996 posts

160 months

Friday 18th January 2019
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Alan Whitaker

2,054 posts

183 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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Now fitted the Easy steer EPAS electronics to the Corsa C Column, quite a tidy fit on the S as there is so much room to work with
Good points, can turn with one finger lock to lock.

Only down side is the bulk head bearing where it bolts to the body, with power racks all the torque is in the rack but with EPS it’s all on the bearing where it passes through the body. It’s quite thin glass at that point and it looks like it could crack the fiberglass with use, only solution is to beef up the glass with 8 layers of fiberglass and include a backing ring to sandwich the two parts together. I have gone for a spherical bearing to allow for any movement between the column and the bearing.
Other than that works very well.

A quick edit, I have a high ratio rack, one turn each way to full lock, so that will put extra force on the bearing

Edited by Alan Whitaker on Saturday 2nd March 12:35

Fefeu52

198 posts

67 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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Just one question in my head.... Why don't you put the EPS device on the steering column under the bonnet ? Between the bulk head bearing and the rack... There is plenty of room and it's easy to fix the device on the nearby subframe. No more torque on the bulk head bearing..... The battery is closed for power supply. A stainless steel box can protect the EPS from the exhaust manifold thermal radiations and water/mud splash.

Alan Whitaker

2,054 posts

183 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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Steering column has all the motor built in and it has all the sockets for the indicators , washers and steering wheel, all one lump. This type won't split






Corsa Column



Edited by Alan Whitaker on Saturday 2nd March 12:14

Fefeu52

198 posts

67 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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...with a grinder and a welding machine.... I'm able to split and merge all what I want wink



Only this part interest me, and I have to fix the calculator on the body.

When an idea is in my mind....

Alan Whitaker

2,054 posts

183 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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No room to do that on mine as you can see


Alan Whitaker

2,054 posts

183 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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Not sure a cut and weld would be MOT legal. IF you are going to do EPAS steering, ask the people who are selling you the kit about linkages and DON'T weld any linkage shafts , there are plenty of UJ and Double D rods for sale so you can make up a linkage without welding.

Edited by Alan Whitaker on Saturday 2nd March 17:37

Fefeu52

198 posts

67 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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Alan Whitaker said:
No room to do that on mine as you can see
Not on yours laugh

Alan Whitaker said:
Not sure a cut and weld would be MOT legal. IF you are going to do EPAS steering, ask the people who are selling you the kit about linkages and DON'T weld any linkage shafts , there are plenty of UJ and Double D rods for sale so you can make up a linkage without welding.
Don't worry, I'm not a beginner in mechanics and I'm old enough to have been on front on my TV the 05/01/1994. I'm not talking about welding the steering shaft.I work for the car industry, not to design cars, but to design machines used to build cars. I don't trifle with security.

Alan Whitaker said:
Not sure a cut and weld would be MOT legal.
In France, if the mod is good-looking enough for the controller to imagine it's genuine.... It's approved biggrin Not any modification on the car is legal, sold by a professional or not. NO ONE.

Edited by Fefeu52 on Saturday 2nd March 21:36

Alan Whitaker

2,054 posts

183 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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Good luck with that one

Alan Whitaker

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183 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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greymrj said:
The system simply requires a section of steering column to be removed then a bracket created so the motor unit can be installed in line. Connect the battery and you have instant, tuneable power steering.
I did look at this system before I went for the Corsa, I had the Ford column on the bench for quite a while trying to decide how to cut out a section and be able to connect UJ’s on to the cut ends. Just thought it would be difficult to add brackets to the TVR mounting bar.
I found Eaststeer did some Ford columns with the triangular fitting but just decided to use a Corsa adjustable unit so I can have a bit of tilt in the column. I know Easysteer have done a few TVR’s so just went with their controller.