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SPIVVY said:
so the sequence is
rinse the dirt off
wash the car
dry it
use something like super resin to seal it
and then a good quality wax ???
and show shine on top
all agreed
>> Edited by SPIVVY on Tuesday 15th April 16:50
Only problem with this is I usually get as far as rinse the car, then I go for a blatt as the sun is out..
The one time I got as far as the full Zymol treament the results were definately worth it, then we had a freeze and I got caught behind a gritting lorry..
Well here's my tip! you dont have to belive me, But if your lazy like me read on for good results easily.
If you have a new car and sinse you all seem to be loaded enough to by new TVR's Lucky gets this may apply to you.
I have tried turtle wax top coat cover/Gloss(somat like that). OK its cheap but here is the thing its like water you just wipe it on then wipe off really, really easy and it gives fantastic results very quickly,
so if your short of time or you find waxing cars really boring try this. remember it has no abrasives in it so best on new cars.
markbigears said: i bought 5 bars! should last a few years! i know of other places that do clay bars..... raceglaze.co.uk and incero.co.uk and mothers do them too, all around 20-30 quid.
Mark,
What is the purpose of using the clay i.e what's it achieve over and above just using wax ? I'm interested as my car has a dull area at the back side of the car wondered if this would help at all.
Ian
Ian,
Allow me to jump in, if I may!
"Claying" a car involves the use of a substance not dissimilar to Plasticine and a suitable lubricant to remove foreign debris, tar spots and so forth from the finish of your paintwork. As you rub the clay against the paint, the particles are transferred into the surface of the clay. You are left with a paint finish that feels like glass, it is so smooth.
I first tried it with my Merc last year as it was covered in tar spots (silver - not good) and the results were staggering, coupled with the Zymol wax I use.
I'd recommend this process to anyone, regardless of what wax you use. A tar remover, such as Autoglym is all well and good but it will only remove tar spots and nothing else.
Price wise as Mark indicates expect to pay anything between 15 - 30 quid for a clay kit - Megiaurs (sp?), Swissol sell them.
Hope this helps you - I very much doubt this will fix the problem you have - this sounds like oxidisation of the paint and will require a very mild cutting paste, or a polish such a Autoglym which is very mildly abrasive.
Cheers!
Greg
Allow me to jump in, if I may!
"Claying" a car involves the use of a substance not dissimilar to Plasticine and a suitable lubricant to remove foreign debris, tar spots and so forth from the finish of your paintwork. As you rub the clay against the paint, the particles are transferred into the surface of the clay. You are left with a paint finish that feels like glass, it is so smooth.
I first tried it with my Merc last year as it was covered in tar spots (silver - not good) and the results were staggering, coupled with the Zymol wax I use.
I'd recommend this process to anyone, regardless of what wax you use. A tar remover, such as Autoglym is all well and good but it will only remove tar spots and nothing else.
Price wise as Mark indicates expect to pay anything between 15 - 30 quid for a clay kit - Megiaurs (sp?), Swissol sell them.
Hope this helps you - I very much doubt this will fix the problem you have - this sounds like oxidisation of the paint and will require a very mild cutting paste, or a polish such a Autoglym which is very mildly abrasive.
Cheers!
Greg
rustoni said: I'm interested as my car has a dull area at the back side of the car wondered if this would help at all.
Ian
Try Autoglym Paint Renovator... www.autoglym.co.uk
ian, the best product ive found for buffing a dull area and scratch removal is a product called GS27, its sold in some halfords and woolworths.(about £5) Its milder than autoglym paint renovater, which leaves alot of swirls in the paintwork, then use super resin to finish. As Greg will tell you, no one product is going to make your car look fantastic, its all about preparation and
applying various steps, that takes time. Claying will make no difference to dull areas, its a surface treatment only. Hope this helps.
>> Edited by markbigears on Wednesday 16th April 10:06
applying various steps, that takes time. Claying will make no difference to dull areas, its a surface treatment only. Hope this helps.
>> Edited by markbigears on Wednesday 16th April 10:06
For best protection and shine this is what i use and the car looks amazing..... autoglym super resin followed by blitz wax. autoglym is avaliable from halfords and blitz by mail order only from frost.co.uk
took your advice and bought blitz wax
just done the bonnet over the weekend and it is the mutts nuts
top man
We've just done a Lancia Fulvia (30 odd years old) with our products (DT Concours) and it came up sparkling. If your paintwork has only been polished in the past and it is more than a couple of years old it might be an idea to check how smooth it is with a cellophane glove, you'll be surprised at how much minute debri can be embedded into the paint. If left there it will make the paint deteriorate.
A good quality wax is essential for protecting the paintwork and preventing/postponing oxidation.
Polishes are fine and can clean and protect in one go, but may not clean as well as a paint cleanser or give as long a lasting protection as a good quality wax.
Here's what we did to the Fulvia,
1. A good intense cleaning with car shampoo and warm water.
2. Clay and lubricant all over the paintwork. Twice in some areas.
3. Rinsed the car thoroughly.
4. Applied paint cleanser.
5. Cleaned the glass inside and out.
6. Applied tyre dressing.
7. Buffed off the paint cleanser.
5. Applied and buffed off Carnauba Wax.
the results can be seen at this link,
[url] Fulvia|www.dtconcours.co.uk/gallery.htm [/url]
A good quality wax is essential for protecting the paintwork and preventing/postponing oxidation.
Polishes are fine and can clean and protect in one go, but may not clean as well as a paint cleanser or give as long a lasting protection as a good quality wax.
Here's what we did to the Fulvia,
1. A good intense cleaning with car shampoo and warm water.
2. Clay and lubricant all over the paintwork. Twice in some areas.
3. Rinsed the car thoroughly.
4. Applied paint cleanser.
5. Cleaned the glass inside and out.
6. Applied tyre dressing.
7. Buffed off the paint cleanser.
5. Applied and buffed off Carnauba Wax.
the results can be seen at this link,
[url] Fulvia|www.dtconcours.co.uk/gallery.htm [/url]
Hi Rustoni,
have a look at this page it explains about the clay and what it does,
[url] clay|www.dtconcours.co.uk/clay.htm [/url]
have a look at this page it explains about the clay and what it does,
[url] clay|www.dtconcours.co.uk/clay.htm [/url]
spivvy, glad i could help, it is one of the best waxes out there and the price is modest. In the states its up there with the very best in carnauba wax tests and its finish lasts better than many others at 4-5 times the price. If you didn't clay, try it next time. Honestly its one product that still amazes me everytime i use it. The detailers best kept secret!
Anyone tried Meguiars? Personally found it to be pretty good, easy to apply etc. Always thought Autoglym a bit powdery and prone to static....beginning to feel like an topic.....and same goes for a lot of others. Could try a paint cleaner followed by polish, followed by a colour based polish/wax (such as Turtle/Halfords) and topped up with good q. carnuaba based wax such as Megs Gold Class although I`m always prepared to be convinced theres better but, hell, how far do ya go?????
Dave, (sad cabbage who had an operation during nicest days of 2003 so far & can`t drive for a few weeks due to painful dangly bits....! Thanks in advance for the pity but hope u all enjoyed the weather & roads, best regards.)
Dave, (sad cabbage who had an operation during nicest days of 2003 so far & can`t drive for a few weeks due to painful dangly bits....! Thanks in advance for the pity but hope u all enjoyed the weather & roads, best regards.)
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