What speed?

What speed?

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johno

8,429 posts

283 months

Thursday 25th April 2002
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Yours or mine



Cheers
Matt.




Definitely yours !!!! Mine looks awful at the front. I will see if I can find a photo and email it to you as I have none on the web anywhere.

Mark

M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Thursday 25th April 2002
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My original plates are underneath the ones on the car (pervious owner trick)..

cream interior.. blue roof.. I think its the original as its a bit ropey but the cars only done 38,000 miles..

I am so stunned by this whole thing... !!! this has made my day... bloody hell ???? you've got my mail address...
Cheers
Matt.



>> Edited by M@H on Thursday 25th April 16:28

johno

8,429 posts

283 months

Thursday 25th April 2002
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My original plates are unterneath the ones on the car (pervious owner trick)..

cream interior.. blue roof..

I am so stunned by this whole thing... !!! this has made my day... bloody hell ???? you've got my mail address...
Cheers
Matt.


>> Edited by M@H on Thursday 25th April 16:27



Forgot that the car reg. is just on the photos from the first S meet at Virginia Waters.

If you look at the top row middle picture its side on......but the one that counts is the bottom row on the right picture which shows the cars lined up after the little run we have to the pub. That shows my Reg just.

It also shows my arse as I leant into the car !!!!

Mark

johno

8,429 posts

283 months

M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Thursday 25th April 2002
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Mark.. get a pic to me and I'll bung it up somewhere on the net...

Ted can do us a "separated at birth" story at least

johno

8,429 posts

283 months

Thursday 25th April 2002
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Mark.. get a pic to me and I'll bung it up somewhere on the net...

Ted can do us a "separated at birth" story at least



Working on it !!

M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Thursday 25th April 2002
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Yep I see.... we'll have to get them side by side for a photo

Same wheels and everything...


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johno

8,429 posts

283 months

Thursday 25th April 2002
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Picture on its way.

Old picture I should say !!!

Mark

M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Thursday 25th April 2002
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The Twin


Cheers
Matt.


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johno

8,429 posts

283 months

Thursday 25th April 2002
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This is just spooksville !!!!



Hooray once again for the power of Pistonheads !!!

Ted for King and all that !!!!

How long have we been chatting on and off this group and never knew of the above !!!



M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Thursday 25th April 2002
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Its weird isn't it..

I'm most pleased about the whole thing

we will definiely have to get them together.. are you going to chatsworth..?


PS. its 5pm so I'll collect the answer tomorrow..

johno

8,429 posts

283 months

Thursday 25th April 2002
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I'm definitely going to Chatsworth !!!

Even more so now if the pair can be matched up !!!

JSG

2,238 posts

284 months

Thursday 25th April 2002
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God these Blue S2s are too common. You want to be like me and have something unique like a Green V8S

HarryW

15,151 posts

270 months

Thursday 25th April 2002
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Johno

Just checked in the 'bible' V6 S's have a final drive of around 26.66mph per 1000 rpm in top, so either;

1. You were doing 160mph
2. You have a non standard final drive ratio, different diff?
3. Your clutch is slipping.
4. Your rev counter is out.

My money's on number 2, wat do ya recon?

Harry

PS V8S final drive is around 24.5mph/1000rpm

johno

8,429 posts

283 months

Friday 26th April 2002
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Johno

Just checked in the 'bible' V6 S's have a final drive of around 26.66mph per 1000 rpm in top, so either;

1. You were doing 160mph
2. You have a non standard final drive ratio, different diff?
3. Your clutch is slipping.
4. Your rev counter is out.

My money's on number 2, wat do ya recon?

Harry

PS V8S final drive is around 24.5mph/1000rpm



I'd like to think it was number 1 !!

I haven't checked any of the figures as I leave that for the tech heads, but as Jas has designed his own close ratio box based on all of the data etc I will go with his figures.

Although I wouldn't trust any of the instrumentation in a TVR with my life so I reckon number 4 if anything. The final drive in my car is standard as far as I'm aware.

Cheers

Mark

M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Friday 26th April 2002
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My money's on Jas's calculation as well I'm afraid, as theres no way mines as high as 26.. with the S being advertised as a "140mph sportscar" this would also suggest that 23 is a bit closer...

..saying that perhaps Mark and I have got different final drives and the rest of you can do 160 although it would seem unlikely..

Cheers
Matt.

HarryW

15,151 posts

270 months

Friday 26th April 2002
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I never said it could do 160 just that as its standard off the shelf Ford running gear it's has a highly geared 5th for economy and therefore has a theoretical maximum speed of about 160 @ 6000rpm, I was a little surprised that an S2 could reach max rpm in top given that fact.
Given that you've probably got 55 profile fitted this will reduce the gearing by 1%.
If it's wildly out then the tyre tables in the bible are all out then I did state at the beginning of my post I was quoting that as the reference.
Either way it was above the NSL
Out of interest Jas what final drive figures are you using as the end result of 140mph would still seem a little high, even the road testers of the day only managed to get just over 130 out of the S2 and that I would have imagined was with a factory prepared press car


Harry

HarryW

15,151 posts

270 months

Friday 26th April 2002
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M@H and Johno given the closeness in registration numbers have you checked to see how close are the Chassis numbers. That could prove to be even more interesting if one of you needs a donor for ringing

Harry

johno

8,429 posts

283 months

Friday 26th April 2002
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I never said it could do 160 just that as its standard off the shelf Ford running gear it's has a highly geared 5th for economy and therefore has a theoretical maximum speed of about 160 @ 6000rpm, I was a little surprised that an S2 could reach max rpm in top given that fact.
Given that you've probably got 55 profile fitted this will reduce the gearing by 1%.
If it's wildly out then the tyre tables in the bible are all out then I did state at the beginning of my post I was quoting that as the reference.
Either way it was above the NSL
Out of interest Jas what final drive figures are you using as the end result of 140mph would still seem a little high, even the road testers of the day only managed to get just over 130 out of the S2 and that I would have imagined was with a factory prepared press car


Harry




60 profile tyres...

I have no idea about any of this.

Each to a corner please.....ding ding round one

Paceracing

729 posts

267 months

Friday 26th April 2002
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Final Drive Ratio was 3.62:1
(Not 3.64:1 as quoted in the bible. I think that was a misprint as Ford never made a 3.64 diff according to a certain well known Race Transmission builder! In the Ford Scorpio workshop manual, it also states 3.62 as being the final drive ratio).
My calculations were based on Yokohama A520 road tyres at 60% profile.
As a side note, my car will pull 6000 RPM in 5th even if the car is going up a very, very slight hill. Interestingly it will not go past 6000 rpm even on a slight decline!
I've been clocked at 140 MPH by a friend in a Griff 500 also on his way to the dentist in Germany!

Jas.

>> Edited by Paceracing on Friday 26th April 22:33