I've had it with unreliable daily drivers...

I've had it with unreliable daily drivers...

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charlie 944

230 posts

251 months

Friday 22nd July 2005
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Agree on the '7' front must be worth a look also what about a 968 ? Loads of fun !!

LongQ

13,864 posts

234 months

Friday 22nd July 2005
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I think it requires something very sensible for a while else the benefits of the more extreme aspects of choice are surely diminished by over exposure.

What about an MX5?

Then after a couple of months simply pick the brains of other owners on PH about how to make it go ludicrously fast - if you still feel the need for that from a daily driver.

My understanding from reading comments is that the other aspects of the MX5 - esp. handling and reliability - should not be issues.

Not sure about insurance though.

EmmaP

11,758 posts

240 months

Friday 22nd July 2005
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I think that Tom will only be satisfied by something that is a little bit different. While a Dax, Caterham or Westfield will offer him just that, I think that the most realistic choice would be the S2. It is sufficiently different and offers the excitement and raw driving experience that Tom craves. If he gets a hard top roof then that would be a real plus in my mind.

andymadmak

14,609 posts

271 months

Friday 22nd July 2005
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Emma! He needs a BIG BAD WEDGE !!!!

You know it's the only thing that makes enough noise for him

Andy

Fatboy

7,986 posts

273 months

Friday 22nd July 2005
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andymadmak said:
Emma! He needs a BIG BAD WEDGIE !!!!

You know it's the only thing that makes enough noise for him

Andy

How is pulling his underpants over his head going to help his car reliability?

LongQ

13,864 posts

234 months

Friday 22nd July 2005
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EmmaP said:
I think that Tom will only be satisfied by something that is a little bit different. While a Dax, Caterham or Westfield will offer him just that, I think that the most realistic choice would be the S2. It is sufficiently different and offers the excitement and raw driving experience that Tom craves. If he gets a hard top roof then that would be a real plus in my mind.


Yep, I know, but 'different' and 'reliable' don't often go together in my experience. And in any case if reliable also means cost effective the diversion of funds from simply "trying to keep mobile/pockets of taxi drivers" to "refurb the G33" it would re-introduce the 'different' component.

Sometimes a bout of relative normality can be useful in assisting with re-focusing on what 'different' really means!

EmmaP

11,758 posts

240 months

Friday 22nd July 2005
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LongQ said:
'different' and 'reliable' don't often go together in my experience. And in any case if reliable also means cost effective the diversion of funds from simply "trying to keep mobile/pockets of taxi drivers" to "refurb the G33" it would re-introduce the 'different' component.

Sometimes a bout of relative normality can be useful in assisting with re-focusing on what 'different' really means!


I agree entirely, but 'sensible' ain't a word that springs to mind when tallking about Tom and motors. Neither is 'reliable' . If he was being sensible he'd get a Corrado VR6 and use the extra £10K he proposes on shelling out on a new motor getting the Ginetta sorted. S2 is lovely but will need to get a new set of rear tyres every 1,500 miles. More money!

minimax

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11,984 posts

257 months

Friday 22nd July 2005
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thanks for the useful comments folks, i'm going to the lotus dealer while i'm in newcastle on the weekend and i'm also going to drop by the VX220 dealer. I have been considering all things from a 3-series to a BMW mini including a civic type-R and a few others

I think the lotus is forerunner while followed by the VX (VX more able to stand up to thrashings shirley being as it's less stressed and a bit 'chunkier'???)

also tempted by a 968, alfa GTV and a AMG 36 I saw in the classifieds...

LongQ

13,864 posts

234 months

Friday 22nd July 2005
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minimax said:
... while i'm in newcastle on the weekend ...


Travelling by train I assume? Would be one hell of a taxi fare! (Or has Herbie come back to life?)

Balmoral Green

40,966 posts

249 months

Friday 22nd July 2005
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Newcastle car dealer said:
Why-ay Tom lad, ave bin readin' about yow on that there Pistonheads. I reet reckon youse is a nice lad an' all but theres no way that we's is gonna sell youse a car like. 'Cos you'll just gan an break it

minimax

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11,984 posts

257 months

Friday 22nd July 2005
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LongQ said:

minimax said:
... while i'm in newcastle on the weekend ...



Travelling by train I assume? Would be one hell of a taxi fare! (Or has Herbie come back to life?)


by train... unless my man fixes the mini on saturday... having said that, I think it's best that I go by train just in case I come back via lotus power

although to be honest that's not very likely since I haven't the time spare for more than a natter and a test drive, I haven't been up to my place there for so long my diary is full! and I promised to meet people at the beach all day sunday so that day's out

LongQ

13,864 posts

234 months

Friday 22nd July 2005
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minimax said:

I think it's best that I go by train just in case I come back via lotus power



Well, I think a long test drive is important when choosing a sports car ...

andy4200

5,006 posts

274 months

Friday 22nd July 2005
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Tom

Not another car!!! I hope you take someone with you when you look at it. Your powers of judgment appear to be a bit lacking when it comes to choosing alternative transport....

Anyways, I would take the S2000 over the Elise any day. If it was a straight choice between a VX220 and Elise I would take the VX. Nothing against Lotus, I just think there are better cars out there even if it does wear a Vauxhall badge.

For 15k and sensible cars you are almost in reach of the Alfa GT (1 year old)

Or how about one of these


Alternatively, if you still want something a bit loony, my cerb is in the classifieds

Balmoral Green

40,966 posts

249 months

Friday 22nd July 2005
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andy4200 said:
Or how about one of these

As it happens, out Tom is very familiar with those lately, having spent a lot of miles in BG this year.

andy4200

5,006 posts

274 months

Friday 22nd July 2005
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Yep, that's what got me thinking about it. I just remember you barrelling up behind me on the motorway to the ferry and me thinking 4tons against 1 ton. Move over and let him past

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

249 months

Friday 22nd July 2005
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Oh, Dear.

zo-fo

193 posts

251 months

Saturday 23rd July 2005
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VX, VX, VX.

minimax

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11,984 posts

257 months

Saturday 23rd July 2005
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Balmoral Green said:

andy4200 said:
Or how about one of these


As it happens, out Tom is very familiar with those lately, having spent a lot of miles in BG this year.


it's tempting!

i'm currently at work looking through autotrader at bentleys while holding on the phone to adrian flux for a VX quotation

might get one for a mulsanne turbo while i'm at it

I'm wincing at the potential servicing bills on a bentley though and tbh if I turn up at work in one of those nobody is going to do business with me!

LongQ

13,864 posts

234 months

Saturday 23rd July 2005
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minimax said:


I'm wincing at the potential servicing bills on a bentley though and tbh if I turn up at work in one of those nobody is going to do business with me!


When you have finished with the insurance quotes you could try Shell to see if you can get a bulk order discount on fuel as well.

15k for the car, 15k pa for insurance, 15k pa for fuel ... and the budget for minimax maintenance schedules ... priceless?

minimax

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11,984 posts

257 months

Saturday 23rd July 2005
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LongQ said:

minimax said:


I'm wincing at the potential servicing bills on a bentley though and tbh if I turn up at work in one of those nobody is going to do business with me!



When you have finished with the insurance quotes you could try Shell to see if you can get a bulk order discount on fuel as well.

15k for the car, 15k pa for insurance, 15k pa for fuel ... and the budget for minimax maintenance schedules ... priceless?


it's only £686 fully comp with 3 points and 5 years NCB on a VX as opposed to £1200 for an elise so the VX is currently edging it

plus when I do bust it the VX is going to be easier on the wallet to fix