A32/A272 average speed cameras
Discussion
bolidemichael said:
TBCTBC said:
UTH said:
BIRMA said:
Well according to our local Tory member in her newsletter the residents are over the moon about it.
Wonder which ones they're asking. Don't think my Dad is too pleased and he lives just off the A32 
Be interesting to see if this does actually make a difference,
Sadly I'm not a biker, but I could shift the Corvette into neutral all the time and rev it.
bolidemichael said:
TBCTBC said:
UTH said:
BIRMA said:
Well according to our local Tory member in her newsletter the residents are over the moon about it.
Wonder which ones they're asking. Don't think my Dad is too pleased and he lives just off the A32 Be interesting to see if this does actually make a difference,
Is there a chance this might start encouraging some people to cover up their number plates and then REALLY go for it? I imagine that might only apply to 1% or less of all the people who do enjoy these roads, but in my mind it could happen? Especially on a bike, I imagine if they did see a police car they'd back themselves to be gone in a blink of an eye, quickly remove the cover and then carry on as if nothing had happened, way before the car ever got close to them?
UTH said:
Is there a chance this might start encouraging some people to cover up their number plates and then REALLY go for it? I imagine that might only apply to 1% or less of all the people who do enjoy these roads, but in my mind it could happen? Especially on a bike, I imagine if they did see a police car they'd back themselves to be gone in a blink of an eye, quickly remove the cover and then carry on as if nothing had happened, way before the car ever got close to them?
No it will just move the problem elsewhere, residents will still complain of speeding as most people associate noise with speed but the majority will move to other roads rather than cover a plate. I use these roads quite a lot. And have noticed a lot of bikers are still riding fast, their just stopping before the second camera. And timing out. Seen a fair few doing it. So that kinda renders the cameras useless and a waste of tax payers money. Money that could of been spent elsewhere rather than pa dering to the local councilors that live along the route.
It makes me wonder if someone will work out the camera distances, then as someone mentioned people could find an area to wait then do a short run at a very high speed. Bit of a pain but maybe it would work. Let's face it everyone knows where the camera vans usually hide and with police resources being so stretched it probably wouldn't be worth trying to police it. Just an idea that came into my head may be full of flaws that I have overlooked.
BIRMA said:
It makes me wonder if someone will work out the camera distances, then as someone mentioned people could find an area to wait then do a short run at a very high speed. Bit of a pain but maybe it would work. Let's face it everyone knows where the camera vans usually hide and with police resources being so stretched it probably wouldn't be worth trying to police it. Just an idea that came into my head may be full of flaws that I have overlooked.
Or just go to one of the many great roads in the surrounding area and move the problem? ecsrobin said:
BIRMA said:
It makes me wonder if someone will work out the camera distances, then as someone mentioned people could find an area to wait then do a short run at a very high speed. Bit of a pain but maybe it would work. Let's face it everyone knows where the camera vans usually hide and with police resources being so stretched it probably wouldn't be worth trying to police it. Just an idea that came into my head may be full of flaws that I have overlooked.
Or just go to one of the many great roads in the surrounding area and move the problem? I just thought that some clever so and so will calculate the distance between them and make an app for bikers to exploit the situation.
bolidemichael said:
So they take a short break and resume? How about the timings in between the cameras?
The cameras work by recording when a vehicle passes the first camera, and how long it takes to pass the second. So a vehicle can go passed the first camera as fast as it likes as long as they stop before the second and wait a while. The camera doesn't know it stopped, so thinks the vehicle has gone through the section within it's set limits. If all bikers chose to stop for a little rest within their favourite sections, they can pretty much I ignore the cameras. And it's likely that given the investment made in these cameras. The police are probably going to reduce their presents to leave the cameras too it. (Don't count on that though) 
Mr Gary Holdsworth said:
bolidemichael said:
So they take a short break and resume? How about the timings in between the cameras?
The cameras work by recording when a vehicle passes the first camera, and how long it takes to pass the second. So a vehicle can go passed the first camera as fast as it likes as long as they stop before the second and wait a while. The camera doesn't know it stopped, so thinks the vehicle has gone through the section within it's set limits. If all bikers chose to stop for a little rest within their favourite sections, they can pretty much I ignore the cameras. And it's likely that given the investment made in these cameras. The police are probably going to reduce their presents to leave the cameras too it. (Don't count on that though) Mr Gary Holdsworth said:
The cameras work by recording when a vehicle passes the first camera, and how long it takes to pass the second. So a vehicle can go passed the first camera as fast as it likes as long as they stop before the second and wait a while. The camera doesn't know it stopped, so thinks the vehicle has gone through the section within it's set limits.
You're assuming the cameras are in pairs - what about a stretch of road where there are multiple cameras?As people found on the M27 when it was being widened a few years back, there were something like 10 cameras along its length, and the software was programmed to measure the average speed between two random cameras - could have been 1 and 2, or it could have been 2 and 10.
Quite a few people using the speed-up slow down method got a bit of a shock when their ticket arrived in the post. As there are a good number of cameras between the West Meon Hut and the top of the monitored section towards Alton, I wouldn't be trying this trick.
Much as I'm not a fan of the cameras, they do seems to have deterred many bikers from the area, especially the tosser element, which is a good thing. Loomies is starting to look a bit empty, though, which is a shame for them.
Bazsm said:
Drove up the A32 yesterday and came across the speed cameras but didn’t take much notice until I turned onto the A272, has anyone been caught by the A32 cameras yet or am I likely to be the first? I wasn’t much over the limit but didn’t think about it until passing the second one.
I'm not sure, I wonder if the figures are available under Freedom of Information? I know our local MP has been trumpeting their success.As a local user of the A272 for a very long time I now just take the long way round so as to avoid the A272 and A32.
I expect with the opening of C&M at the old West Meon Hut site there may well be an increase in offenders.
Edited by BIRMA on Monday 11th March 09:28
Edited by BIRMA on Monday 11th March 09:28
Bazsm said:
Drove up the A32 yesterday and came across the speed cameras but didn’t take much notice until I turned onto the A272, has anyone been caught by the A32 cameras yet or am I likely to be the first? I wasn’t much over the limit but didn’t think about it until passing the second one.
They've been there long enough im sure somebody has been caught by now. Up to East Tisted there are so many potholes and floods it's not worth going fast anyway.I'd like to know how many people these cameras are catching and how many accidents they have prevented, because the number of idiots using the back lanes as a racetrack has most certainly increased since their arrival.
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