Good areas for family to live North Leeds?

Good areas for family to live North Leeds?

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CRA1G

6,547 posts

196 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Bardsey and East Keswick are nice villages and very close to Collingham and Shadwell so the best of all,i have lived in Scarcroft for 20 years which is in the middle of all of them and popular with pupils ar L/G. A £850K budget should be adequate for your requirements in any of the villages,another possibility is Wetherby a lovely town just down the road 10 mins away on the A58.plenty of pubs around aswell... Good Luck.

Mr Whippy

29,076 posts

242 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Commutes in Leeds can get really heavy going.

I've spent 1hr getting from Jimmys to Headingley before at around 16:30 to 17:30.

Given where the LGI is, the school is, and possible use of pubic transport, I'd avoid going too far out.


Anything out on the A58 imo is going to be very bad in the coming 5 years.
The whole Whitkirk area development will feed on at A58/coal road kinda area, and Colton.
The A58 was recently called a 'bad road' wrt pollution levels.
The new development has no planned integrated public transport like trains/new lines etc... you can be guaranteed that any radial commutes around NE Leeds to outlying villages will become hellish.


Imo you can't look at any house without looking at the urban development plans and potential new sites.

There is a LOT of new stuff planned and very little transport investment, so deffo think ahead and use your imagination.



Just look at Sherburn in Elmet, one of many villages being over-developed in East Leeds.
Main crossroads is a joke. By pass to nowhere.
Twisty country lanes and low grade roads feeding back to the motorway.
North entry via country lanes to a flawed Tadcaster junction into A64.
South through South Milford, lol.
West along a windy country lane, served off a tight set of lights.
Yet they continue to throw houses on it, constant mid or high development for 15 years.
No new roads, no train line spur, no new doctors, no new schools.

Even nice posh houses will be dragged down by the general downward pressure of over-crowded under-serviced areas.

telecat

8,528 posts

242 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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I have lived in Belle Isle, Horsforth, Chapel Allerton/Moortown and currently Scholes. Got Out of Belle Isle. It's not all bad but bits do drag it down. Horsforth was fantastic as a Young Man. Lots to do and no need to go far to do it. When you did want to get out it was difficult to get into Leeds Centre due to the traffic and the Mark one attempt at a Bus lane though Kirkstall. Moortown was a nice quiet area. We weren't far from Chapel Allerton so still plenty on. Scholes is just quieter and out of it a bit. Also for me a good option as we can get to York almost as fast as Leeds.


anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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We live in Rawdon, good access in and out of Leeds, close to the airport but not on the flight path. Quite a middle class area, if there is such a thing. Decent community and close to Woodhouse Grove school.

BlueMR2

8,658 posts

203 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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https://publicaccess.leeds.gov.uk/online-applicati...

I wouldn't want a house anywhere near the ELOR/ELE, or the main route into town from there, it will be hell for years just while the building is going on never mind when people start moving in to the houses.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope... 8 bedrooms, not sure where the 5th is though.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope... 4 beds



A few houses down the road from the grammar school, short bike ride, slightly longer walk, near Sainsburys, 2 gyms, Homebase etc.

Not far from Waitrose, Tesco, etc, easy access to main motorways, not far from the Harewood Hillclimb.

Not particularly villagey though.

Near to the school and easy access to multiple routes into town though.


Slightly over budget, however a nice looking house, with nice view over Eccup Reservoir.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

Double garage with room above including sink and toilet and large glass opening also with the reservoir with the view, could make a very nice office, not physically in the house if you like to work separately from the family.

Nice large master bedroom with built in bath with the view and upper balcony.

Just a shame there is a public right of way straight past the house.

Depends what you like.

Maybe something slightly smaller
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope... or its next door neighbour
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

Both seem to be recent conversions and near the grammar school, local pub and a few takeaways, easy access to the ring road and again, easy access to multiple routes into town.

Further out to Adel, the spiel mentions being in a village, which may be what you'd like.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

If you find an extra Million £££ down the sofa, this is easy walking distance to the grammar school. See if they will throw in the Bristol in the deal as well.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

Try this link and alter the price, bedrooms etc to see some of what is available near the grammar school and heading out based on mileage.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/map.h...

Could be the potential to build your own here? http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope... then sell off the original house to cover the costs.

Not quite sure if you need to live in a particular area to go to the grammar school at all?

Edited by BlueMR2 on Tuesday 16th January 19:58

vindaloo79

962 posts

81 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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telecat said:
I have lived in Belle Isle, Horsforth, Chapel Allerton/Moortown and currently Scholes. Got Out of Belle Isle. It's not all bad but bits do drag it down. Horsforth was fantastic as a Young Man. Lots to do and no need to go far to do it. When you did want to get out it was difficult to get into Leeds Centre due to the traffic and the Mark one attempt at a Bus lane though Kirkstall. Moortown was a nice quiet area. We weren't far from Chapel Allerton so still plenty on. Scholes is just quieter and out of it a bit. Also for me a good option as we can get to York almost as fast as Leeds.
Im surprised how many PHers live so close actually, I'm a stones throw away on the other side of the new build monstrosity from the A64. On the fringe of Whinmoor. Moved in when it was all fields behind the house and had great views, we now enjoy 7 new neighbours down the length of our rear fence... When i moved in the I knew it was coming and the house had a overhead power line substation type thing behind it which seemed to make it cheap. Guess I'm glad we have the neighbours instead of that mind and does give security being enclosed.

We have been looking at scholes previously, seems nice and quiet. Just back to the old issue of thinking ahead 10 years that I don't want my son going to John Smeaton (where I went back in the 90's!).

How's crime in scholes? Where we are its very quiet apart from the estate/council side towards swarcliffe. Crossgates is going down hill it seems though...

telecat

8,528 posts

242 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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vindaloo79 said:
telecat said:
I have lived in Belle Isle, Horsforth, Chapel Allerton/Moortown and currently Scholes. Got Out of Belle Isle. It's not all bad but bits do drag it down. Horsforth was fantastic as a Young Man. Lots to do and no need to go far to do it. When you did want to get out it was difficult to get into Leeds Centre due to the traffic and the Mark one attempt at a Bus lane though Kirkstall. Moortown was a nice quiet area. We weren't far from Chapel Allerton so still plenty on. Scholes is just quieter and out of it a bit. Also for me a good option as we can get to York almost as fast as Leeds.
Im surprised how many PHers live so close actually, I'm a stones throw away on the other side of the new build monstrosity from the A64. On the fringe of Whinmoor. Moved in when it was all fields behind the house and had great views, we now enjoy 7 new neighbours down the length of our rear fence... When i moved in the I knew it was coming and the house had a overhead power line substation type thing behind it which seemed to make it cheap. Guess I'm glad we have the neighbours instead of that mind and does give security being enclosed.

We have been looking at scholes previously, seems nice and quiet. Just back to the old issue of thinking ahead 10 years that I don't want my son going to John Smeaton (where I went back in the 90's!).

How's crime in scholes? Where we are its very quiet apart from the estate/council side towards swarcliffe. Crossgates is going down hill it seems though...
Most Kids in the Village go to Boston Spa or Tadcaster Grammar. Seems to be a gimme unless you want to go to Smeaton's. You just have to pay for the bus or drop them off which as we work in Thorpe Arch wasn't a problem. Crime is a mixed bag. Pretty low level as the village has a Network of people at home who seem to keep the scrotes under observation. Can't leave doors unlocked but that's par for the course these days.

Building wise yes ELOR could be a pain. However they are relying on Builders paying for it and the local Parish council have some pretty good people who know the planning laws. They pick their fights and I don't see major expansion for a while. As for the New Houses on the A64 I foresee problems with flooding. The area is on clay and to be honest the Builders have a "paint by numbers" approach. Their idea of adequate drainage is pathetic.

jock mcsporran

5,005 posts

274 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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Lived in Roundhay for a number of years by the park and now in Bramhope the last 7 years. Both very different but I far prefer Bramhope with family. 15 mins to Leeds centre outside of rush hour, 5 mins to airport. Plenty of open countryside if that's your thing.

Mr Whippy

29,076 posts

242 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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The ELOR, if that's the new 'by pass' around the back of whitkirk, is to be backfilled with houses.

No doubt out-filled too given a decade or so?

That whole area and pie slice in/out of Leeds is gonna be horrible imo.

telecat

8,528 posts

242 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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According to local councillors of the 16,000 approved homes builders have built 2,000. And they still try and get more houses into Scholes, Boston Spa Thorner etc. It's easy to see wht. Throw up a "Prestige" home that costs them little due to current crappy building standards then sell it on over the local price because of worthless extras. There's no need for any more planned houses and ELOR is to me just a Donkey of a scheme. Labour Councillors seem to be in cohoots with at least one major player around here.


Mr Whippy

29,076 posts

242 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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telecat said:
According to local councillors of the 16,000 approved homes builders have built 2,000. And they still try and get more houses into Scholes, Boston Spa Thorner etc. It's easy to see wht. Throw up a "Prestige" home that costs them little due to current crappy building standards then sell it on over the local price because of worthless extras. There's no need for any more planned houses and ELOR is to me just a Donkey of a scheme. Labour Councillors seem to be in cohoots with at least one major player around here.
I'd be all for building all over if the housing stock was innovative, long lasting, low density and just plain amazing.
But it's the polar opposite.

These 'premium' areas are gonna be dragged down by this stuff imo.

AndyTR

517 posts

125 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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We live in Collingham and it’s lovely. Good vibe, nice shops on the little parade, good pub and a nice Italian restaurant. Commute into Leeds is 25-40 mins depending on the time of day. Bus is about 45 minutes and they are every 20 minutes. Airport is 30 minutes and the A1 is 5 minutes. Healthy car scene and a few PHers in the village. Linton is very nice as well and Wetherby is in walking distance for good shopping and ale. If you’re looking at schools then I would consider Queen Ethelburga’s, we’ve been really impressed.

BlueMR2

8,658 posts

203 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Sounds like Carillion were due to build the ELOR.

Might delay things abit.

http://democracy.leeds.gov.uk/documents/s169786/it...

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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ATV said:
Wife is starting a new job at Leeds General Infirmary in June. I was also hoping to have my kids enrolled in Leeds Grammar.

So north Leeds looks the best for my wife's daily commute (I work from home) and kid's school runs.

Am looking for a fairly diverse area, not too cliquey. I'd like there to be a local parade of shops (Spar, Post office, Fish n Chips) or high street nearby so that I don't have to go into the city centre too much (I hate congestion). The Saturday big shop will be done at White Rose if Leeds are not playing at home so hopefully I can avoid traffic which I've heard can be bonkers in Leeds (the Junction 2 turnoff at M621 towards the ring road seems to be a car park at all hours of the day)

If our house and my wife's BTL sell, our deposit and joint mortgage can go up to 850k, I need a 4-bed with a decent garden. I would also be happy to buy a plot of land and do a self-build if that's a possibility in north Leeds?

Any ideas of areas I should be looking at? Scarcroft and Wike looked really nice when I had a drive around but might be out of my price range and plus full of the ladies-who-lunch crowd that we'd like to avoid. Chapel Allerton seemed nice and had a nice high street. Someone recommended Horsforth but could there be too much noise with the airport? Anything with a villagey vibe, some countryside but with a 24 hours AorB road run to the city centre and the motorway network would be amazing but I think impossible to find in Leeds.

Thanks
I have lived in adel, barwick and also in bardsey. During my time in barwick i was on the parish council so was involved in some of the planning authority SHLAA consultations. There is and will continue to be lots of house building on the east side of leeds and as others have said the arterial roads are already crap at rush hour, this will worsen. The further out you go the worse it will be to get in. A64 and A58 I would avoid if you can.

If you are set on gsal and your wife is doing LGI you really have to stay up that way in north leeds, or roundhay. Forget scholes, barwick and the rest over that side, the commute to work and school run will be bad and will get much worse. Collingham is ok but it has flooded badly in the past and will no doubt flood again one day. Again the commute A58, pita.

If you stay north leeds you will also will be in the golden triangle (Leeds,Harrogate, York) and sellers (often elderly) will want silly money for houses that need a lot of work, unless you are in to advocado bathrooms and artex. Theres a lot of postcode snobbery in north leeds, and you will see that in the prices.

For the vibe you want you really are going to have little choice. Shadwell is ok, forget wike, it is a drive thru, Bramhope and adel have little soul but are ok. Roundhay is metropolitan so you get the usual pros and cons. Maybe horsforth, but you end up too far for school. Could try harewood?

Personally I couldnt bear living in north leeds, or the private school options, so I moved to York.


BlackGT3

1,445 posts

211 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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OP, you could also consider Harrogate if your wife is willing to take the train or have a longer commute. GSAL offers an extensive bus service for pupils and many attend from the Harrogate area.

Depending on where one lives in Adel, it offers 3 independent restaurants and 1 chain restaurant in walking distance, 3 convenience stores including M&S, post office, butchers, cafe and a Fish & Chip and Indian takeaway. The pub isnt good however, but you do have plenty of good pubs in Far Headingley, which is also an area worth considering.

Bramhope has a good pub and various shops and is soon to have a Sainsbury's Local. It will take 10-15mins to commute from Bramhope/Adel/Far Headingley to GSAL in a car.



soxboy

6,291 posts

220 months

Tuesday 30th January 2018
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BlackGT3 said:
Bramhope has a good pub and various shops and is soon to have a Sainsbury's Local.
That’s handy, where’s it going to be?

CRA1G

6,547 posts

196 months

Tuesday 30th January 2018
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soxboy said:
BlackGT3 said:
Bramhope has a good pub and various shops and is soon to have a Sainsbury's Local.
That’s handy, where’s it going to be?
Only place i can think of would be the "Cairns&Hickey" site..? That's were my money would be..!scratchchin

jock mcsporran

5,005 posts

274 months

Tuesday 30th January 2018
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CRA1G said:
soxboy said:
BlackGT3 said:
Bramhope has a good pub and various shops and is soon to have a Sainsbury's Local.
That’s handy, where’s it going to be?
Only place i can think of would be the "Cairns&Hickey" site..? That's were my money would be..!scratchchin
Is it not part of the planning permission for the new houses the our Communities Secretary overruled the council on when he approved it.

Ilovejapcrap

3,285 posts

113 months

Tuesday 30th January 2018
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Go east,

Garforth, monk fryston.

Get with a moped.

Solved

PH5121

1,964 posts

214 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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With a budget like yours I'd prefer to live in a village or small town a little further away from Leeds.

Most of the villages in the area to the North East of Leeds such as Aberford, Barwick, Bramham, Bardsey, Collingham, Clifford, East Keswick, Thorp Arch, Thorner are worth a look at.

Boston Spa is a village with a range of shops, bars and places to eat and a couple of miles further north is Wetherby, which has plenty of facilities.