Forth Road Bridge after work each evening
Discussion
Davie said:
Regarding the approaches, if anybody struggles to navigate them at 70 then they shouldn't be in charge of a motor vehicle... it's not exactly the hairpin at Knockhill.
I'll give it till the end of the month before someone looses it at 70 mph with the change in camber on the south bound approach. moanthebairns said:
I'll give it till the end of the month before someone looses it at 70 mph with the change in camber on the south bound approach.
Surely that'll be resolved once the old bridge is closed... I thought there was just a bit of a compromise as traffic needed to be directed to either bridge lately but once fully operational, that will all be changed / rectified? Truth be told, I haven't driven the new bridge yet... has zero desire to rush out and add to the congestion by doing so!
Might try and see how long I can avoid it!
moanthebairns said:
Davie said:
Regarding the approaches, if anybody struggles to navigate them at 70 then they shouldn't be in charge of a motor vehicle... it's not exactly the hairpin at Knockhill.
I'll give it till the end of the month before someone looses it at 70 mph with the change in camber on the south bound approach. 
Northbound the two bridge joints are not the most seamless experiences - I'd expect those to be an issue at 70mph for some, especially in wet conditions...
Davie said:
I do thinkt hat the hard shoulder, as great as it is in theory should have been a smart lane similar to those on the M5 around Birmingham... eg, in peak times then drop the speed to 50mph (or thereabouts) and run the hard should as a traffic lane. When the volume reduces or conditions are good, back to two lanes and 70mph.
This is what I reckon will happen (and may have been the plan all along) - the gantries etc are all set up for variable speed limits (and HADECS 3 
) by the looks of things, so it's not a huge leap to imagine that in a couple of years it's announced that it needs an extra lane and it's all going smart, along with the M90 extension to the M9 plus the section of the M9 from the M90 to the M8.csd19 said:
Can anyone advise how bad the traffic is likely to be 6pm onwards tonight? Heading down to see family and will quite happily go the long route round by Stirling if necessary...
Should be ok sir, has been flowing much better southbound today with only 5 / 10min delays reported at rush hour this morning and generally speaking, more traffic heads north at the evening peak times... have a quick look on Traffic Scotland and the traffic cameras around Admiralty junction on the M90 south before you go but just now, flowing well. 
Davie said:
csd19 said:
Can anyone advise how bad the traffic is likely to be 6pm onwards tonight? Heading down to see family and will quite happily go the long route round by Stirling if necessary...
Should be ok sir, has been flowing much better southbound today with only 5 / 10min delays reported at rush hour this morning and generally speaking, more traffic heads north at the evening peak times... have a quick look on Traffic Scotland and the traffic cameras around Admiralty junction on the M90 south before you go but just now, flowing well. I'll give the cameras a nosy just before I head off as well - some of the tales above from a week or so ago make it sound hellish.
Finally got the chance to cross the new bridge yesterday. Traffic was far worse than I've seen it at lunch time.
Coming South there is a large hump on the road surface joining the bridge. I don't think a lot of cars will like to hit that at 70mph.
Coming South there is a large hump on the road surface joining the bridge. I don't think a lot of cars will like to hit that at 70mph.
Edited by Driver101 on Saturday 23 September 15:25
Driver101 said:
Finally got the chance to cross the new bridge yesterday. Traffic was far worse than I've seen it at lunch time.
Coming South their is a large hump on the road surface joining the bridge. I don't think a lot of cars will like to hit that at 70mph.
Agreed!Coming South their is a large hump on the road surface joining the bridge. I don't think a lot of cars will like to hit that at 70mph.
I went over it for the first time a few days ago and even at 40mph that was a bit of an eye opener... and the fact it's a 40mph limit right up to the A90 interchange past the Dakota is ridiculous!
Driver101 said:
Travelled northbound tonight. The approach this way is much better. It was still far too busy.
Normally Sunday evening is quiet. Tonight traffic was moving at 10mph for a couple of miles.
Heading home at half 4 it was queued back to Pitreavie southbound and the whole way along the M9 spur northbound.Normally Sunday evening is quiet. Tonight traffic was moving at 10mph for a couple of miles.
I'm sure it's still just people sightseeing adding to the traffic though. All the people incapable of merging at 40mph will also perform textbook zip merges at 70.
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/e...
Well, colour me surprised...
Although it does say that the 40 limit will be lifted - lifted to what...?
Well, colour me surprised...
Although it does say that the 40 limit will be lifted - lifted to what...?
dxg said:
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/e...
Well, colour me surprised...
Although it does say that the 40 limit will be lifted - lifted to what...?
I can see this being a momentous fWell, colour me surprised...
Although it does say that the 40 limit will be lifted - lifted to what...?
k up of biblical proportions. The bridge itself is fine. The fact its two lanes is puzzling, but the entry is fking horrendous. I'm sorry but the driving standards of 75% of people on the road (and thats a generous percentage) are f
king shocking. I don't expect them to have a race licence and go club racing every week, but many cant fking negotiate it at 40 mph as it stands. Its hardly the Jim Clark esses but for many it fking will be. A cheeky wee camber change, joining traffic, someone belting it up the outside lane, early dark nights, rain, unfamiliarity with road layout, ditch finders, cold winter road. There is going to be a fking cracking smash almost weekly. Since this opened its been a f
king nightmare traffic wise. 70 mph wont fking work. Whoever designed the entry and exit obviously would make a cracking career at race circuit development but have not assumed that the general public on a whole are no where near being handy behind the wheel. Was the bridge fine this morning? It took me 40 minutes to get through the A985 and I couldn't see anything on traffic Scotland giving a reason why.
The clackmannanshire bridge was also heavily tailed back heading towards Falkirk.
The last few nights around this area have been a fking nightmare, normally its due to the forth bridge.
The clackmannanshire bridge was also heavily tailed back heading towards Falkirk.
The last few nights around this area have been a f
king nightmare, normally its due to the forth bridge. moanthebairns said:
Was the bridge fine this morning? It took me 40 minutes to get through the A985 and I couldn't see anything on traffic Scotland giving a reason why.
The clackmannanshire bridge was also heavily tailed back heading towards Falkirk.
The last few nights around this area have been a fking nightmare, normally its due to the forth bridge.
Temp traffic lights by Limekilns stuck on red.The clackmannanshire bridge was also heavily tailed back heading towards Falkirk.
The last few nights around this area have been a f
king nightmare, normally its due to the forth bridge. The problem with the QC is the amount of people coming off (Going north) at the junction before it and trying to go straight back down the on slip road. If they just stayed on then they wouldn't bring misery and suffering when the park across the roundabout.
Should be able to shoot people that do this (Come off to go back on and folk that sit across the roundabout).
Should be able to shoot people that do this (Come off to go back on and folk that sit across the roundabout).
N0ddie said:
The problem with the QC is the amount of people coming off (Going north) at the junction before it and trying to go straight back down the on slip road. If they just stayed on then they wouldn't bring misery and suffering when the park across the roundabout.
Should be able to shoot people that do this (Come off to go back on and folk that sit across the roundabout).
That was always a problem at Echline as well. OTOH, the one time I tried it, I got the impression it was a waste of time.Should be able to shoot people that do this (Come off to go back on and folk that sit across the roundabout).
A mini-SPECS type setup would help; camera on each slip and if your number plate shows up on both - you're nicked, sunshine! Although I don't know what actual offence they could charge you with. Being a bellend sadly isn't punishable by flogging and deportation.
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