Forth Road Bridge after work each evening
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Instead of tolls, they should install those new smart cameras that can spot people using their phones and issue fines but instead set them to target passengers in badly driven, freshly collected hire cars leaning over the driver to take pictures of the bridges and if said driver is in turn meandering along at 36mph, the fine is tripled. They'd make a fortune.
Janluke said:
I'd say it'll never happen but next month they will be phasing in the charge for parking at your work.https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/politics/scot...
Completely obsessed with the notion everyone is better off using public transport.
I stay within a five minute walk of Falkirk High Station, to get to my work in Dunfermline it'd take me an 1 hour and 44 mins one way, as opposed to less than 40 mins in the van or under 30 on the motorbike.
I'll just park in the street.
My work is 12 miles away. It’s about a mile off the M8, as is my house, my commute is actually just 2 junctions.
So I can drive and park there tomorrow morning in 14mins.
Or I can walk to the bus stop, take the bus 15 miles in the wrong direction, to then go all the way back on a different service, then catch another bus back the way again, then walk the last bit to work. All that in a mere 2hrs 6min.
So it’s fair to say I’ll be continuing to drive.
Incidentally, not only might businesses pass the cost on to employees, if they wind up parking on the street their car insurance will cost more than in a secure work car park.
So I can drive and park there tomorrow morning in 14mins.
Or I can walk to the bus stop, take the bus 15 miles in the wrong direction, to then go all the way back on a different service, then catch another bus back the way again, then walk the last bit to work. All that in a mere 2hrs 6min.
So it’s fair to say I’ll be continuing to drive.
Incidentally, not only might businesses pass the cost on to employees, if they wind up parking on the street their car insurance will cost more than in a secure work car park.
emicen said:
My work is 12 miles away. It’s about a mile off the M8, as is my house, my commute is actually just 2 junctions.
So I can drive and park there tomorrow morning in 14mins.
Or I can walk to the bus stop, take the bus 15 miles in the wrong direction, to then go all the way back on a different service, then catch another bus back the way again, then walk the last bit to work. All that in a mere 2hrs 6min.
So it’s fair to say I’ll be continuing to drive.
Incidentally, not only might businesses pass the cost on to employees, if they wind up parking on the street their car insurance will cost more than in a secure work car park.
Will it though? My insurance company were always concerned about where the car was kept overnight but never asked about work parking facilities.So I can drive and park there tomorrow morning in 14mins.
Or I can walk to the bus stop, take the bus 15 miles in the wrong direction, to then go all the way back on a different service, then catch another bus back the way again, then walk the last bit to work. All that in a mere 2hrs 6min.
So it’s fair to say I’ll be continuing to drive.
Incidentally, not only might businesses pass the cost on to employees, if they wind up parking on the street their car insurance will cost more than in a secure work car park.
Halmyre said:
Will it though? My insurance company were always concerned about where the car was kept overnight but never asked about work parking facilities.
Yes. Appears to be a standard question now in insurance applications. Both comparison sites I used recently, and all insurers outside the comparison sites, had where the car is kept during the day as one of their questions for the vehicle’s usage.Where do you keep the car during the day:
At home, office or factory car park, open public car park, secure public car park, street away from home.
Where do you keep the car at night:
Drive, street outside home, locked garage, unlocked garage, street away from home, other
More traffic calming measures at Newton, looks to me this is just causing needless queues resulting in more pollution and not helping anything, the speed sensing traffic lights seemed to keep speeders in check, or is this now a ploy to stop drivers using the route altogether?, the way it's setup I think we will see quite a few tail-enders as well.
I can't see it having that much impact, a huge amount of Newton traffic is people actually coming off the M9 because the option of staying on and going that way round seems a helluva long way for a short cut, the main advantages of the new bit will be Winchburgh residents being able to get on going to Edinburgh and getting off again coming back. Time will tell I suppose.
Pastor Of Muppets said:
I can't see it having that much impact, a huge amount of Newton traffic is people actually coming off the M9 because the option of staying on and going that way round seems a helluva long way for a short cut, the main advantages of the new bit will be Winchburgh residents being able to get on going to Edinburgh and getting off again coming back. Time will tell I suppose.
It will stop the Winchburgh residents having to drive to or through Linlithgow to gain access to the Motorway network. By adding more traffic calming to Newton they are trying to make that short cut an unattractive slow cumbersome option compared to the motorway route.
Better access to the motorway network is almost always a good thing.
Pity when they built the huge Queen Elizabeth hospital in Glasgow right next to the M8 they didn't do anything about motorway access.
No. The plan was all bus corridors blah blah blah. Id be interested to see what percentage use public transport. Under 10% Id guess.
Pity when they built the huge Queen Elizabeth hospital in Glasgow right next to the M8 they didn't do anything about motorway access.
No. The plan was all bus corridors blah blah blah. Id be interested to see what percentage use public transport. Under 10% Id guess.
irc said:
Better access to the motorway network is almost always a good thing.
Pity when they built the huge Queen Elizabeth hospital in Glasgow right next to the M8 they didn't do anything about motorway access.
No. The plan was all bus corridors blah blah blah. Id be interested to see what percentage use public transport. Under 10% Id guess.
No different to the ERI. Theres not even enough carparking spaces for the staff let alone the customers.Pity when they built the huge Queen Elizabeth hospital in Glasgow right next to the M8 they didn't do anything about motorway access.
No. The plan was all bus corridors blah blah blah. Id be interested to see what percentage use public transport. Under 10% Id guess.
The nhs have had to put on a staff shuttle to the local park and ride.
Plenty of buses that will get you and your broken leg to and from the hospital which is on the outskirts of Edinburgh.
irc said:
Better access to the motorway network is almost always a good thing.
Pity when they built the huge Queen Elizabeth hospital in Glasgow right next to the M8 they didn't do anything about motorway access.
No. The plan was all bus corridors blah blah blah. Id be interested to see what percentage use public transport. Under 10% Id guess.
M8 access to that hospital is just awkward. Coming from the M8 it's easy enough - off at J25 for the tunnel & take the exit just before Lidl to get to Govan Road. The only problem is there's no way to do it in reverse - you're either having to hack through heavy traffic towards Ibrox stadium & Helen Street, go via Braehead and probably get stuck in more traffic, or cross the river via the Tunnel & use the Expressway. I guess if Berryknowes Road was remodelled a bit you could join onto the eastbound M8 ramp there & add a right turn onto the road towards the roundabout at the end of Fifty Pitches Rd for Westbound traffic, but other than that it's difficult to see what you'd do given how tightly hemmed in the A739 and its ramps are in that area. That's assuming traffic exits the hospital onto Shieldhall Rd rather than Govan Rd, obviously.Pity when they built the huge Queen Elizabeth hospital in Glasgow right next to the M8 they didn't do anything about motorway access.
No. The plan was all bus corridors blah blah blah. Id be interested to see what percentage use public transport. Under 10% Id guess.
I suppose the only other thing you could do would be to attempt to build a completely new junction in the Fifty Pitches Road/Shieldhall Road area, I guess you could build it as access only potentially given the exit via J25 is pretty reasonable. One big problem would be that you'd be joining straight into the exiting traffic for J25A going west.
Edited by alangla on Monday 6th June 13:40
Leithen said:
Pretty much every hospital I have visited would benefit from multiple multi-storey car parks being built.
But planners, environment, everyone should walk or cycle to hospital, blah, blah blah.
QEUH has that & it's still an absolute nightmare getting parked!But planners, environment, everyone should walk or cycle to hospital, blah, blah blah.
Glasgow Royal Infirmary used to be OK, but then the SNP ditched hospital parking charges, for a hospital on the edge of the city centre, which used to sell season tickets for spare spaces to people who worked locally. You can guess what happened.
An exit from the QEUH to the M8 eastbound could easily have been built alongside the eastbound exit to the Cyde tunnel. Cross the tunnels exit lane on a bridge. Sorted. Maybe shift tge ecitvlane north a few yards to make dpace.
Loads of ground between Shieldhall Rd and the motorway.
Compared to the entry exits built in tight areas around Charing Cross and Townhead it would childs play.
Just no thought given to car access by planners. Just spend an hour on a bus for a 20m trip when you are taking your sick child/wife/parent to hospital.
Loads of ground between Shieldhall Rd and the motorway.
Compared to the entry exits built in tight areas around Charing Cross and Townhead it would childs play.
Just no thought given to car access by planners. Just spend an hour on a bus for a 20m trip when you are taking your sick child/wife/parent to hospital.
Edited by irc on Monday 6th June 15:03
irc said:
An exit from the QEUH to the M8 eastbound could easily have been built alongside the eastbound exit to the Cyde tunnel. Cross the tunnels exit lane on a bridge. Sorted.
Loads of ground between Shieldhall Rd and the motorway.
Compared to the entry exits built in tight areas around Charing Cross and Townhead it would childs play.
They were built in the 1960s with a scorched earth demolition policy and are in no way compliant with modern standards...Loads of ground between Shieldhall Rd and the motorway.
Compared to the entry exits built in tight areas around Charing Cross and Townhead it would childs play.
I'm not seeing where this bridge would go - looking at the satellite picture I assume you're talking about a link road over what's currently St Anthony's football ground then over the eastbound exit for J25 and then down to M8 level before it goes under the A739 bridge?
alangla said:
They were built in the 1960s with a scorched earth demolition policy and are in no way compliant with modern standards...
I'm not seeing where this bridge would go - looking at the satellite picture I assume you're talking about a link road over what's currently St Anthony's football ground then over the eastbound exit for J25 and then down to M8 level before it goes under the A739 bridge?
At the point where the M8 goes over Hardgate Rd on a bridge I would start the Clyde Tunnel slip road and curve it left for say 50 yards until shortly before the A739 bridge at which point it would curve back right and rejoin the current line as it curves round to the A739. I'm not seeing where this bridge would go - looking at the satellite picture I assume you're talking about a link road over what's currently St Anthony's football ground then over the eastbound exit for J25 and then down to M8 level before it goes under the A739 bridge?
This would free up a strip of land 50 yards wide and 0.3 miles long to fit in a slip road. I would suggest at the Hardgate Rd exit from QEUH an exit at 11 oclock at the existing junction going onto a ramp to cross the M8E-A739 slip road then back down to become a slip road going east where the current Clyde Tunnel exit slip is.
In any case given the amount of land and length of motorway between the A739 bridge I'm sure a design could be worked out. But as far as I know it was never considered because the theme from the top is discourage cars.
irc said:
alangla said:
They were built in the 1960s with a scorched earth demolition policy and are in no way compliant with modern standards...
I'm not seeing where this bridge would go - looking at the satellite picture I assume you're talking about a link road over what's currently St Anthony's football ground then over the eastbound exit for J25 and then down to M8 level before it goes under the A739 bridge?
At the point where the M8 goes over Hardgate Rd on a bridge I would start the Clyde Tunnel slip road and curve it left for say 50 yards until shortly before the A739 bridge at which point it would curve back right and rejoin the current line as it curves round to the A739. I'm not seeing where this bridge would go - looking at the satellite picture I assume you're talking about a link road over what's currently St Anthony's football ground then over the eastbound exit for J25 and then down to M8 level before it goes under the A739 bridge?
This would free up a strip of land 50 yards wide and 0.3 miles long to fit in a slip road. I would suggest at the Hardgate Rd exit from QEUH an exit at 11 oclock at the existing junction going onto a ramp to cross the M8E-A739 slip road then back down to become a slip road going east where the current Clyde Tunnel exit slip is.
In any case given the amount of land and length of motorway between the A739 bridge I'm sure a design could be worked out. But as far as I know it was never considered because the theme from the top is discourage cars.
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