Fire alarm law change Feb 22

Fire alarm law change Feb 22

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sherman

13,318 posts

216 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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Theres a bit on the smoke alarms on reporting scotland tonight.

S2red

2,509 posts

192 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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Yes just saw it and did not realise I need Heat alarm in kitchen. That will be interesting to position in our smallish kitchen

cptsideways

13,548 posts

253 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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Wish we had'nt bought such a big wee hoose hehe 4 Bedrooms, a hall, two lounges & a kitchen
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Ours is still under refurbishement & dust everywhere, will be waiting a little while yet

Skyedriver

17,872 posts

283 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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Mentioned this to my wife this afternoon,
my thought "someone in the Govt must be getting a back hander"
Her "we must get these, what if we have a fire and the insurance don't pay up"

The house is 22 years old, we have never had a fire (actually I did once almost set a pan alight) and there's three smoke detectors hard wired.

I assume I can use new hard wired units to replace the existing as I would guess they existing aren't interconnected but there is nothing in the kitchen where a heat detector is required now?


sherman

13,318 posts

216 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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Skyedriver said:
Mentioned this to my wife this afternoon,
my thought "someone in the Govt must be getting a back hander"
Her "we must get these, what if we have a fire and the insurance don't pay up"

The house is 22 years old, we have never had a fire (actually I did once almost set a pan alight) and there's three smoke detectors hard wired.

I assume I can use new hard wired units to replace the existing as I would guess they existing aren't interconnected but there is nothing in the kitchen where a heat detector is required now?
As far as I can tell you just need your detector heads replaced and depending on what system you go for you might be able to get a batery heat detectorvthat will connected to the rest.

Slow

6,973 posts

138 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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Someone really needs to sort this gov out. Nanny state to the max these days.

Craigie

1,227 posts

180 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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I checked with my insurer.
No obligation to make these changes from insurance angle and not having these will not affect any claim.
Interesting, on reading my current documents there is no mention of any smoke alarm requirements of any sort.
I will however be implementing these changes in my elderly fathers house. Is a good prompt to replace his old smoke alarms that were probably bought from Woolworths…. And he currently has no heat or CO alarms.

CO2000

3,177 posts

210 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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Slow said:
Someone really needs to sort this gov out. Nanny state to the max these days.
Pretty sure it will save some lives though and it's certainly raised awareness!

CO2000

3,177 posts

210 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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Slow said:
Someone really needs to sort this gov out. Nanny state to the max these days.
Pretty sure it will save some lives though and it's certainly raised awareness!

irc

7,326 posts

137 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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CO2000 said:
Pretty sure it will save some lives though and it's certainly raised awareness!
Maybe it will. Probably not many. 2019 Scottish Fire Deaths were 44. Meanwhile excess winter deaths caused by the cold are more than 4000per year. SNP energy policies resulting in higher prices will probably cost more lives than improved alarms will save. But opposing Cambo etc gives her brownie points with her Green pals.

https://www.firescotland.gov.uk/media/1143935/fire...

https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/files//statistics/wi...

irc

7,326 posts

137 months

Friday 21st January 2022
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Andy Wightman's take on it. In short - a good idea to fit them but no legal requirement.

https://twitter.com/andywightman/status/1483863505...

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 21st January 2022
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i checked with my ins. (m&s) and they dont require these new alarms for the house ins. cover to be valid, in fact the rep said they dont require smoke alarms at all at this point.

NoddyonNitrous

2,122 posts

233 months

Friday 21st January 2022
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My local electricl factors say there's no compliant kit available at the moment nor in the forseeable future.

csd19

2,191 posts

118 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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My folks just installed the kit from Safelincs, it was easy enough for them to do.

Seems the correct route of action is to check with your insurance company to confirm their requirements. And then go with any company rather than Aico, they can just fk right off.

NoddyonNitrous

2,122 posts

233 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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Regs state "you must have a smoke detector in the room you use most"; also "only heat alarms should be installed in kitchens". My kitchen/sitting room is the room we use most, so do I/don't I fit a smoke detector there to tell me whenever I'm cooking?

s2kjock

1,687 posts

148 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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NoddyonNitrous said:
Regs state "you must have a smoke detector in the room you use most"; also "only heat alarms should be installed in kitchens". My kitchen/sitting room is the room we use most, so do I/don't I fit a smoke detector there to tell me whenever I'm cooking?
Interesting point if you have an open plan kitchen/sitting room as my OH does, and probably quite common in smaller properties.

I also didn't appreciate that the CO alarms need to have a 10 year sealed battery which is annoying, as my existing CO alarm has replaceable batteries banghead

J6542

1,625 posts

45 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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Why is anyone worrying over this crap? The only time you will need to comply is if you are selling. As much as the Scottish Stazi would like to search everyone’s house, this is impossible to enforce. Just more crap brought in from the clowns in Holyrood with to much time on their hands.

Skyedriver

17,872 posts

283 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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irc said:
Maybe it will. Probably not many. 2019 Scottish Fire Deaths were 44. Meanwhile excess winter deaths caused by the cold are more than 4000per year. SNP energy policies resulting in higher prices will probably cost more lives than improved alarms will save. But opposing Cambo etc gives her brownie points with her Green pals.

https://www.firescotland.gov.uk/media/1143935/fire...

https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/files//statistics/wi...
As opposed to the number of drug related deaths? 1264
But the SNP doesn't seem to be able to get their act together.

Allandwf

1,755 posts

196 months

Sunday 23rd January 2022
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J6542 said:
Why is anyone worrying over this crap? The only time you will need to comply is if you are selling.
Or renting

Gramrugby

544 posts

209 months

Monday 24th January 2022
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Skyedriver said:
As opposed to the number of drug related deaths? 1264
But the SNP doesn't seem to be able to get their act together.
The most consistent political party in the UK. 100% failure rate!