Fire alarm law change Feb 22

Fire alarm law change Feb 22

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OldGermanHeaps

3,837 posts

179 months

Monday 24th January 2022
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Allandwf said:
J6542 said:
Why is anyone worrying over this crap? The only time you will need to comply is if you are selling.
Or renting
Or after a fire and your insurance company are looking for a way to wriggle out of paying out.

Slow

6,973 posts

138 months

Monday 24th January 2022
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OldGermanHeaps said:
Allandwf said:
J6542 said:
Why is anyone worrying over this crap? The only time you will need to comply is if you are selling.
Or renting
Or after a fire and your insurance company are looking for a way to wriggle out of paying out.
I dont think they stop the fire being a fire...

irc

7,326 posts

137 months

Tuesday 25th January 2022
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OldGermanHeaps said:
Allandwf said:
J6542 said:
Why is anyone worrying over this crap? The only time you will need to comply is if you are selling.
Or renting
Or after a fire and your insurance company are looking for a way to wriggle out of paying out.
"Scotland’s leading home insurance providers have assured policyholders that their coverage will not be invalidated should they fail to meet the new smoke alarm regulations that the government is set to implement on February 01."

https://www.insurancebusinessmag.com/uk/news/home-...

The idea of the new alarms is when a fire is detected make it more likely occupants escape. They do not reduce the risk of fires. Insurance companies would have no justification for refusing a claim.

CO2000

3,177 posts

210 months

Tuesday 25th January 2022
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irc said:
OldGermanHeaps said:
Allandwf said:
J6542 said:
Why is anyone worrying over this crap? The only time you will need to comply is if you are selling.
Or renting
Or after a fire and your insurance company are looking for a way to wriggle out of paying out.
"Scotland’s leading home insurance providers have assured policyholders that their coverage will not be invalidated should they fail to meet the new smoke alarm regulations that the government is set to implement on February 01."

https://www.insurancebusinessmag.com/uk/news/home-...

The idea of the new alarms is when a fire is detected make it more likely occupants escape. They do not reduce the risk of fires. Insurance companies would have no justification for refusing a claim.
An early warning could be the difference to a small fire being put out or turning into a bigger total loss (in more ways than 1) one though

S2red

2,509 posts

192 months

Tuesday 25th January 2022
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New rules not ideal

BUT

New rules stop the batteries being removed

How often do you see reports of house fires and no batteries in detectors, too often

irc

7,326 posts

137 months

Tuesday 25th January 2022
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CO2000 said:
An early warning could be the difference to a small fire being put out or turning into a bigger total loss (in more ways than 1) one though
They could. But in the average 3 bed semi like mine I can hear either of our smoke detectors activating from anywhere in the house. Linking adds nothing.

Chuck328

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1,581 posts

168 months

Thursday 27th January 2022
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irc said:
"Scotland’s leading home insurance providers have assured policyholders that their coverage will not be invalidated should they fail to meet the new smoke alarm regulations that the government is set to implement on February 01."

https://www.insurancebusinessmag.com/uk/news/home-...

The idea of the new alarms is when a fire is detected make it more likely occupants escape. They do not reduce the risk of fires. Insurance companies would have no justification for refusing a claim.
Nice one, thanks for that.

I'm not upgrading. With no plans to move or rent the house out. We decided that at Xmas. On fumes in the bank account these days anyway thanks to part time working due covid.

scz4

2,503 posts

242 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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Thread revival as I need to comply to these changes after moving house.

I had a quote of £500 from a local company. That's, supplied, installed and commissioned. No thanks! I only need 4 smoke detectors and 1 heat detector.

There are so many different options and brands online to choose from. But can anyone recommend a particular set\pack for DIY install?

Prices really vary and whilst it's not something I want to cheap out on, I also think some companies are being very opportunistic due to the legislation.

So, something like this?

https://westbasedirect.com/products/hsa-bp4-bh-rf1...





Edited by scz4 on Tuesday 23 January 12:36


Edited by scz4 on Tuesday 23 January 12:38

ALTO77

311 posts

143 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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scz4 said:
Thread revival as I need to comply to these changes after moving house.

I had a quote of £500 from a local company. That's, supplied, installed and commissioned. No thanks! I only need 4 smoke detectors and 1 heat detector.

There are so many different options and brands online to choose from. But can anyone recommend a particular set\pack for DIY install?

Prices really vary and whilst it's not something I want to cheap out on, I also think some companies are being very opportunistic due to the legislation.

So, something like this?

https://westbasedirect.com/products/hsa-bp4-bh-rf1...





Edited by scz4 on Tuesday 23 January 12:36


Edited by scz4 on Tuesday 23 January 12:38
That's a very good price and Hispec is decent quality, you'll need a carbon monoxide detector, unless you already have one, and possibly add an control unit if you want to save going around everything individually to switch off the alarms.

scz4

2,503 posts

242 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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ALTO77 said:
That's a very good price and Hispec is decent quality, you'll need a carbon monoxide detector, unless you already have one, and possibly add an control unit if you want to save going around everything individually to switch off the alarms.
Thanks for confirming, perhaps prices have dropped since the initial rush.

I already have two carbon monoxide detectors, one by the boiler and the other by the gas fire. I don't believe they need to be linked to the smoke or heat detectors.

Heidfirst

180 posts

88 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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scz4 said:
I already have two carbon monoxide detectors, one by the boiler and the other by the gas fire. I don't believe they need to be linked to the smoke or heat detectors.
They don't but it isn't a bad idea if you have to replace them in the near term.

OldGermanHeaps

3,837 posts

179 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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Prices have dropped, wholesalers were ripping the out the pricing when they were in short supply during the initial rush.