What glue

What glue

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Skyedriver

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17,856 posts

282 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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Well, the dash is out, the veneer ordered, so what glue do folk recommend for veneer to mild steel?
Most are for porous surfaces.
Thanks

KKson

3,403 posts

125 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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I used the water activated Gorilla glue, having tried several other types first. Works great but doesn't half expand so you need to be careful. Link to my re-veneer on the SEAC below.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Skyedriver

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17,856 posts

282 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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KKson said:
I used the water activated Gorilla glue, having tried several other types first. Works great but doesn't half expand so you need to be careful. Link to my re-veneer on the SEAC below.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Oh heck, Gorilla Glue!
It expands to the ends of the earth if you let it...
How did you stop it contaminating the veneer?
I've read talc on the back of the veneer where the dials and switches are.....

KKson

3,403 posts

125 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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I made a press using some 20mm plywood and covered both the face of the veneer and more importantly the wooden press in grease proof paper. TBH the bit of glue on the veneer wasn't an issue as I used a 1200 grit sand paper on my orbital sander to flatten it first, before then applying multiple layers of lacquer, followed by finer and finer rubbing down between lacquer coats.

A very tiny smear of glue was required and it did expand like a silly thing......, but it's certainly strong!

Skyedriver

Original Poster:

17,856 posts

282 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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Skyedriver said:
KKson said:
I used the water activated Gorilla glue, having tried several other types first. Works great but doesn't half expand so you need to be careful. Link to my re-veneer on the SEAC below.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Oh heck, Gorilla Glue!
It expands to the ends of the earth if you let it...
How did you stop it contaminating the veneer?
I've read talc on the back of the veneer where the dials and switches are to stop it sticking to the press.....

Pumpkin123

76 posts

70 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Just in case this helps, but I've been gathering the bits to redo my veneers in the winter. I've read a few threads on this topic and have to admit I was going to try the method of attaching ply to the steel first as per this thread:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

That said I haven't done it yet, probably best to experiment on a scrap piece first I'm thinking...

BlueWedgy

382 posts

102 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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I have been thinking about this as well.

Take a look a this video, I was thinking of using one of the wifes hoover suck down clothes bags the seem to suck down really well and seal shut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Bwkm7i28M



Edited by BlueWedgy on Thursday 5th November 13:09

Skyedriver

Original Poster:

17,856 posts

282 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Pumpkin123 said:
Just in case this helps, but I've been gathering the bits to redo my veneers in the winter. I've read a few threads on this topic and have to admit I was going to try the method of attaching ply to the steel first as per this thread:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

That said I haven't done it yet, probably best to experiment on a scrap piece first I'm thinking...
Speaking yesterday to a veneer supplier, he recommended two layers of veneer with the grain at 90 degrees to each other to stop splitting...Personally I think it'll be hard enough to do one layer.

Skyedriver

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17,856 posts

282 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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BlueWedgy said:
I have been thinking about this as well.

Take a look a this video, I was thinking of using one of the wives hoover suck down clothes bags the seem to suck down really well and seal shut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Bwkm7i28M
Interesting idea.
Again the veneer supplier said the sheets are pretty flat but dampen them and pile heavy weights on over night to get them properly flat.
Use a roller to flatten them onto the glues base.

I'm quite excited about trying this job. Hope the neighbours don't mind the swearing.

KKson

3,403 posts

125 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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For mine I dampened the veneers with a wet cloth before applying the gorilla glue and thoroughly bolted it together between two sheets of ply and lots of suitably located bolts and nuts.

adam quantrill

11,538 posts

242 months

Thursday 5th November 2020
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Two layers of veneer sounds like a great idea. Get some cheaper veneer for the middle layer.
It also doesn't have to be a big expensive piece, you can stick bits on that butt up to each other.

I would glue the first layer down a waterproof glue, to keep water away from the steel surface,
Anything you can to stop the steel from rusting, maybe also a coat of paint or varnish on it first,
it's the rust bubbling up over the years that causes problems.

Once the first layer is set, sand down and put on the top layer.

The hoover bag idea sounds good, you should be able to apply a nice even pressure with that.