East Anglian Meet? Rolling Road Day II
Discussion
After the success of the January meet @ LPS -
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=142571&f=121&h=0
www.lorvenperformanceservices.com/home.cfm
They would like to invite us back for a summer time rolling road day bash on Sat 13th of August.
There will be a bigger and better barb-que with ice cold stubbies and soft drinks.
All RR runs will cost the same reduced rate as last time (£35).
Resident lotus guru, Greg Lock from Hanger111 will also be in attendance to give advise and show off some new elise developments.
It would be great to see some of the people that couldn't make it last time and also see if any one can beat their figures from January.
I think everyone that attended last time will agree that it made a great social event and with the added bonus of August sunshine it should be even better!
Regards,
Doug.
>> Edited by garage19 on Tuesday 5th July 15:04
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=142571&f=121&h=0
www.lorvenperformanceservices.com/home.cfm
They would like to invite us back for a summer time rolling road day bash on Sat 13th of August.
There will be a bigger and better barb-que with ice cold stubbies and soft drinks.
All RR runs will cost the same reduced rate as last time (£35).
Resident lotus guru, Greg Lock from Hanger111 will also be in attendance to give advise and show off some new elise developments.
It would be great to see some of the people that couldn't make it last time and also see if any one can beat their figures from January.
I think everyone that attended last time will agree that it made a great social event and with the added bonus of August sunshine it should be even better!
Regards,
Doug.
>> Edited by garage19 on Tuesday 5th July 15:04
Right, the role call so far reads:
NICK P - BMW M3
JASON - FTO
STEVE - TVR CHIM 400
MUNCHER - VX220 (spectator)
PHIL - DAX COBRA (subject to monster engine!)
COLIN - 3DR SPECIAL
APGUY - ANOTHER TVR!
I will update this list as more confirm.
Doug.
>> Edited by garage19 on Friday 8th July 21:40
>> Edited by garage19 on Friday 8th July 21:44
>> Edited by garage19 on Saturday 9th July 19:08
>> Edited by garage19 on Wednesday 20th July 09:10
>> Edited by garage19 on Wednesday 3rd August 07:39
NICK P - BMW M3
JASON - FTO
STEVE - TVR CHIM 400
MUNCHER - VX220 (spectator)
PHIL - DAX COBRA (subject to monster engine!)
COLIN - 3DR SPECIAL
APGUY - ANOTHER TVR!
I will update this list as more confirm.
Doug.
>> Edited by garage19 on Friday 8th July 21:40
>> Edited by garage19 on Friday 8th July 21:44
>> Edited by garage19 on Saturday 9th July 19:08
>> Edited by garage19 on Wednesday 20th July 09:10
>> Edited by garage19 on Wednesday 3rd August 07:39
daxtojeiro said:
Hi all,
I hope to be able to make it this time, I should have a 5.0 TVR lump in the cobra by then, will be interesting to see what it will be pumping out with the Megasquirt running it compared to the Emerald systems your all so keen on, if I get it all finished in time,
Phil
I think every one would love to have a look round your car and i know the dyno operator has a bit of a thing for V8 cobras!
Just thought I would repeat this info as posted by Neil from LPS for benefit of people that are coming along on the 13th.
Preparation:
1. Ensure you have a good supply of fuel in the tank. A couple of power runs will not use much but as a rule of thumb, half a tank would be a good minimum.
2. Ensure you check engine oil and water levels and top-up as necessary.
3. Where possible check gearbox and diff oils and check for leaks.
4. Tyre pressures are very important for accurate readings so ensure these are set as you would normally run them or as specified by the manufactuer.
5. Ensure you have towing eyes, etc, to allow us to strap the car down using the tow points wherever possible.
6. Ensure wheel nuts are tight and secure and that none are missing.
This about covers it for preparation, we do however have a pre-check on the vehicle before it is run to ensure we are happy. We do reserve the right not to run a car we feel is unsuitable but this has not happened yet.
The day:
We are starting about 9.30 in the morning, and we will be running a first come, first served system. One note of caution, the main entrance into the yard has a slight hump, if you usually ground the car on speed bumps, etc, ensure you approach at an angle to avoid this.
On arrival the owner of the vehicle will be asked to complete a Disclaimer before your vehicle is run. On completion you will be given a number for your run and you and your guests will be issued with Passes to allow you to wonder the workshop. On the day, anybody without a pass will not be allowed in the workshop - always cautious with people walking around other peoples cars!
Prizes will be awarded at the end of the day - categories to be confirmed. We will also hold a question and answer session at the end if needed. The cost for the Power run is £35.00 including VAT. It would help if you have the correct money available as we hold very little change on site.
The Power Run:
Once the pre-check is complete, your car will be driven onto the rollers, settled and strapped down. We will then discuss with you anything we feel relevant and take on board any comments you may have. Only two additional people will be allowed in the booth with the vehicle (usually the owner and a friend). There is, however, a large viewing window for others to spectate.
Each power run will then consist of the following:
1. One gearing run to allow the rollers and software to ascertain loss factors at the wheels.
2. Two power runs will then be made taking the vehicle initially to the redline and then backed off if the power curve dictates for the second run.
You will then receive a graph detailing the following:
1. Brake Horsepower at the Flywheel
2. Torque at the Flywheel
3. Drag co-efficient - allowing you to calculate loss through the drivetrain and show BHP at the wheels
4. Air/Fuel Ratio curve throughout the run.
The main fan used simulates 75mph winds into the front of the vehicle. In addition we have upto six fresh air points that allow us to blow air onto different areas of the car (rear engined intercoolers, etc). The exhaust gasses are then vented by another fan at the rear of the vehicle.
On completion the vehicle is allowed to idle and cool and is then removed from the rollers, ready for the next one. At this point you will be shown your graph and you may ask questions if you have any.
Preparation:
1. Ensure you have a good supply of fuel in the tank. A couple of power runs will not use much but as a rule of thumb, half a tank would be a good minimum.
2. Ensure you check engine oil and water levels and top-up as necessary.
3. Where possible check gearbox and diff oils and check for leaks.
4. Tyre pressures are very important for accurate readings so ensure these are set as you would normally run them or as specified by the manufactuer.
5. Ensure you have towing eyes, etc, to allow us to strap the car down using the tow points wherever possible.
6. Ensure wheel nuts are tight and secure and that none are missing.
This about covers it for preparation, we do however have a pre-check on the vehicle before it is run to ensure we are happy. We do reserve the right not to run a car we feel is unsuitable but this has not happened yet.
The day:
We are starting about 9.30 in the morning, and we will be running a first come, first served system. One note of caution, the main entrance into the yard has a slight hump, if you usually ground the car on speed bumps, etc, ensure you approach at an angle to avoid this.
On arrival the owner of the vehicle will be asked to complete a Disclaimer before your vehicle is run. On completion you will be given a number for your run and you and your guests will be issued with Passes to allow you to wonder the workshop. On the day, anybody without a pass will not be allowed in the workshop - always cautious with people walking around other peoples cars!
Prizes will be awarded at the end of the day - categories to be confirmed. We will also hold a question and answer session at the end if needed. The cost for the Power run is £35.00 including VAT. It would help if you have the correct money available as we hold very little change on site.
The Power Run:
Once the pre-check is complete, your car will be driven onto the rollers, settled and strapped down. We will then discuss with you anything we feel relevant and take on board any comments you may have. Only two additional people will be allowed in the booth with the vehicle (usually the owner and a friend). There is, however, a large viewing window for others to spectate.
Each power run will then consist of the following:
1. One gearing run to allow the rollers and software to ascertain loss factors at the wheels.
2. Two power runs will then be made taking the vehicle initially to the redline and then backed off if the power curve dictates for the second run.
You will then receive a graph detailing the following:
1. Brake Horsepower at the Flywheel
2. Torque at the Flywheel
3. Drag co-efficient - allowing you to calculate loss through the drivetrain and show BHP at the wheels
4. Air/Fuel Ratio curve throughout the run.
The main fan used simulates 75mph winds into the front of the vehicle. In addition we have upto six fresh air points that allow us to blow air onto different areas of the car (rear engined intercoolers, etc). The exhaust gasses are then vented by another fan at the rear of the vehicle.
On completion the vehicle is allowed to idle and cool and is then removed from the rollers, ready for the next one. At this point you will be shown your graph and you may ask questions if you have any.
I'll put my name down as a provisional (1997 Chimaera 400)- not sure if I'm going to be away that weekend and will have to let you know for certain during that week. Is it OK to turn up on the day?
One question, I'm getting a slight mis-fire from mine at around 2800 rpm under steady acceleration. I realise this is just a power run but will you be able to offer advice as to likely causes and solutions based on the results?
One question, I'm getting a slight mis-fire from mine at around 2800 rpm under steady acceleration. I realise this is just a power run but will you be able to offer advice as to likely causes and solutions based on the results?
Tony,
I will put you down as to be confirmed.
If you mention the misfire and explain the conditions when it happens (eg 2800rpm, high load?) they should be able to recreate those conditions on the dyno and study the results. For example, a slight richening at that point in the rpm range may be indicative of un-burnt fuel from an ignition problem or the misfire may be caused by a sudden leaning of the mixture as you floor the throttle (possible TPS fault). These things will all show up on a dyno.
I will put you down as to be confirmed.
If you mention the misfire and explain the conditions when it happens (eg 2800rpm, high load?) they should be able to recreate those conditions on the dyno and study the results. For example, a slight richening at that point in the rpm range may be indicative of un-burnt fuel from an ignition problem or the misfire may be caused by a sudden leaning of the mixture as you floor the throttle (possible TPS fault). These things will all show up on a dyno.
Phil,
You've got 6 full days, 30 evening sessions to get it done!
Get the missus to bring your tea to the garage and get up with the milkman to put in a couple of hours before you go to work.
Would it be possible to pop over and have a look when you are re mapping as I have my own MS+Edis setup to map soon (when i have time to finish the wiring) and seeing a real life demo would be most handy!
Thanks,
Doug.
You've got 6 full days, 30 evening sessions to get it done!
Get the missus to bring your tea to the garage and get up with the milkman to put in a couple of hours before you go to work.
Would it be possible to pop over and have a look when you are re mapping as I have my own MS+Edis setup to map soon (when i have time to finish the wiring) and seeing a real life demo would be most handy!
Thanks,
Doug.
garage19 said:
Tony,
I will put you down as to be confirmed.
If you mention the misfire and explain the conditions when it happens (eg 2800rpm, high load?) they should be able to recreate those conditions on the dyno and study the results. For example, a slight richening at that point in the rpm range may be indicative of un-burnt fuel from an ignition problem or the misfire may be caused by a sudden leaning of the mixture as you floor the throttle (possible TPS fault). These things will all show up on a dyno.
Afraid I'm going to have to bow out of this one. I've been waiting for a definite date from my friend to move house and looks like its pretty certain to be this one. Unfortunately for me it means a trip to Wales to give him a hand.
garage19 said:
Phil,
You've got 6 full days, 30 evening sessions to get it done!
Get the missus to bring your tea to the garage and get up with the milkman to put in a couple of hours before you go to work.
Would it be possible to pop over and have a look when you are re mapping as I have my own MS+Edis setup to map soon (when i have time to finish the wiring) and seeing a real life demo would be most handy!
Thanks,
Doug.
Doug,
Im still trying to sell the 3.5, I think its sold now, this will be the 4th time, so I can remove it soon. Im hoping that this week I will be doing the heart transplant, then I will be tuning the 5.0L. Email me and I'll give you my phone number and Id be delighted to show you through the MS stuff. I warn you Im a bit sad where this stuff is concerned though! Youll soon get bored and fall asleep with my drivlings. If you have some time you could even help me, I always end up doing my own car on my own, I can do other peoples cars a lot quicker as the owners always help me. Im fairly certain Im not working on the rolling road day, so as long as the car is running I will come down even if it isnt finished and I dont make a power run,
Phil
With people pulling out left right and centre, there is a real danger of this event not going ahead. Which would be a shame.
We need at least 10 people to run to make it a worth while day.
So, if you are waiting in the wings, humming and harring whether to come along, now is the time to sign up!
Or if you are already signed up and have some petrol head friends, ask them if they fancy a a tasty burger and a chance to find out how their car performs.
All the best,
Doug.
We need at least 10 people to run to make it a worth while day.
So, if you are waiting in the wings, humming and harring whether to come along, now is the time to sign up!
Or if you are already signed up and have some petrol head friends, ask them if they fancy a a tasty burger and a chance to find out how their car performs.
All the best,
Doug.
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